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Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:08
by Finn
jameswilson wrote:brilo33 wrote:khan as good as judge as he is boxer
'I don't think the knockdown helped him.'
With insight like that there's a job in politics for him somewhere.
Ha ha to be fair I think he meant in the way the close rounds were then judged.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:10
by crusader
I think people read too much into Jack's stoppage loss. His durability has looked fine apart from that and it wasn't long ago that he fairly beat Dirrell (he seems to get little credit for this), who had tough Sakio Bika all over the place in their fights. Add Groves not looking too hot since the Froch bouts and I was surprised that he was so strongly favored here.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:10
by brilo33
Finn wrote:jameswilson wrote:brilo33 wrote:khan as good as judge as he is boxer
'I don't think the knockdown helped him.'
With insight like that there's a job in politics for him somewhere.
Ha ha to be fair I think he meant in the way the close rounds were then judged.
i know tongue and cheek
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:14
by Exoddus
Exoddus wrote:I'm one of two people out of 66 who've picked Jack to win on points

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You guys know nothing about boxing.
The fight played out how I thought it would tbh. Jack did win that fight.
Happy boy tonight. Won £300 on dillian whyte abd around £90 on Jack.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:14
by Finn
One thing I do know is bugglioni has no chance against these guys and I'm getting annoyed about them mentioning him as someone who is up in their league. I'm betting big on chudinov.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:15
by handsofstone
expe wrote:jameswilson wrote:You can usually tell with how the scoring is if there's a kd. Very few judges in the USA give even rounds it seems so when I heard 116-111 we all knew. Similar with the first McDonnell Kameda fight given it was 114-113 on all cards.
Only one fighter was getting a 116-111 in their favour, which is a pretty poor scorecard tbh.
I had it 116-111 Jack but im on the drink and whatnot and had a mate in until late in the fight when he vomited and effed off sharpish and there was a loads of tit for tat rounds where it was give and take,Groves was as brave as ever,his self belief is admirable,Jack again really impressed me with his boxing savvy,i probably give him too much harshness(is that a word? it is now) because of the 1st round KO to Edwards but he's a very capable boxer
In a close fight like this,its amazing how a fighters appearence affects the scoring,Groves looked haggard,Jack looked slick so thats prob how went with him in the close rounds even though they were both landing
Jack just a bit cleaner,sharper and more hurtful for me though
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:15
by crusader
Exoddus wrote:Exoddus wrote:I'm one of two people out of 66 who've picked Jack to win on points

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You guys know nothing about boxing.
The fight played out how I thought it would tbh. Jack did win that fight.
Happy boy tonight. Won £300 on dillian whyte abd around £90 on Jack.
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Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:18
by Boxing Prospect
Groves was fornicating terrible...dude should fornicating retire after that awful. Just awful.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:18
by Exoddus
crusader wrote:Exoddus wrote:Exoddus wrote:I'm one of two people out of 66 who've picked Jack to win on points

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You guys know nothing about boxing.
The fight played out how I thought it would tbh. Jack did win that fight.
Happy boy tonight. Won £300 on dillian whyte abd around £90 on Jack.
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I'm currently pissed

. I may not make it to the Mayweather fight.

Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:19
by brilo33
any one staying up for the last Floyd fight. having a 50/50 fight to
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:33
by Boxerbeetle
I'm not sure Groves is a world level fighter, he's already had 3 title shots & come up short each time. He's not likely to fight a weaker champ than Jack either. DeGale is miles ahead of him now.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:36
by handsofstone
Exoddus wrote:Exoddus wrote:I'm one of two people out of 66 who've picked Jack to win on points

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You guys know nothing about boxing.
The fight played out how I thought it would tbh. Jack did win that fight.
Happy boy tonight. Won £300 on dillian whyte abd around £90 on Jack.
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Well done Exoddus.,Im slipping further down the league in PTBF over on CS,could you help me out ;;-)
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:37
by handsofstone
Viks hair is distacting me
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:44
by handsofstone
Salido looking freakishly strong
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:46
by Boxing Prospect
Boxerbeetle wrote:I'm not sure Groves is a world level fighter, he's already had 3 title shots & come up short each time. He's not likely to fight a weaker champ than Jack either. DeGale is miles ahead of him now.
...is there a weaker champion in the sport today?
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 22:51
by Exoddus
I'm pretty sure I've won the last 6 boxing bets I've done in a row. The only bets I have right now are ones I put on months ago. I've got a betting slip from Coral which has a Badou Jack and BJS win double. So I guess that's a winner because the BJS fight wasn't rescheduled within 30 days (now taking place in December). I'll pop over to the shop tomorrow and find out.
The other bet I've got is £45 on Wlad to beat Fury in rounds 1-4 @ 7/1 with lads.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:17
by tobyh5
Cobra'd?
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:22
by Boxing Prospect
GreedyG wrote:Martinez-Salido - WOW, this is FOTY material.
Watch the first one :) (along with Afolabi Vs Ramirez, Zoda Vs Petchchorhae, Matthysse Vs Provodnikov, Kongfah Vs Higa, Kaneko Vs Nakamura)
BS decision of the year!
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:22
by handsofstone
GreedyG wrote:Martinez-Salido - WOW, this is FOTY material.

The intensity in that fight was unreal,reminded me of Corales-Castillo 1,i had it a draw,Martinez clawed it back,i had the last round even,was gonna give it to Salido for knocking Martinez's gum shield out but really there was nothing in it,i wouldnt argue who won
Thats a def FOTY candidate for me,ive seen a lot of game opponents but those 2 were epic,i cant believe the heart both showed,Salido looks unbelievable for someone with his career(hmmm) Id love to see the punch stats because that was unreal output from 1st to last
The tragedy is this fight will be far under the radar when Mayweather boxes to a easy albeit beautiful shut out
Glowacki-Huck and Santa Cruz-Mares were excellent but this was better IMO
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Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:36
by brilo33
so who is supporting berto. go on berto
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:37
by Boxing Prospect
Come on Berto!
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:41
by handsofstone
brilo33 wrote:so who is supporting berto. go on berto
If Mayweather was to lose to Berto 1 fight away from equaling Marciano's record that would some up the sport of boxing
bad promoters damage the sport but on its day theres nothing like it

Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:45
by mickey1975
tobyh5 wrote:Cobra'd?
I don't think George has been right since the first Froch fight. He left a lot of himself in the ring that night. Splitting with Booth wasn't helpful. He wouldn't have had him favouring quantity over quality as he has done in his last three bouts.
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:45
by brilo33
same mayweather.same fight .different name
Re: Groves v Jack Poll
Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 23:48
by brilo33
berto feels it. he is gonna do it