Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

Joshua vs. Whyte Winner and How?

Poll ended at 17 Sep 2015, 05:01

Anthony Joshua Stoppage
115
73%
Anthony Joshua Points
4
3%
Draw
1
1%
Dillian Whyte Points
6
4%
Dillian Whyte Stoppage
31
20%
 
Total votes: 157

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

Post by ILikeBeer »

JimJim2009 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:Will it be free or PPV?
It's ppv.
Are we all so far up AJ's ass, that a Commonwealth Title fight that is unlikely to see three rounds is deemed worthy of PPV?

I like the guy, but that's absurd.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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jamiem26 wrote:Reckon it will be PPV but if the card ends up similar to May 30th I don't think there can be too many complaints.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...

Kindly take Eddie's cock from your mouth.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Joshua is tapping in to the casual market in a pretty big way. I know people who have no real interest in boxing that have gone to see him fight. They seem to love him
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Datsue wrote:
jamiem26 wrote:Reckon it will be PPV but if the card ends up similar to May 30th I don't think there can be too many complaints.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...

Kindly take Eddie's cock from your mouth.
Harsh haha! In hindsight I was glad I payed for that card to tell the truth. Very enjoyable night of boxing and some good fights but in saying that, the card could easily have been split in to three or even four reasonably good shows in their own right. Makes you wonder if Hearns got some sort of quota to fill with PPVs. The months ahead will be interesting if Fury v Wlad is rescheduled for Nov. Brook, Fury then Joshua all in the space of about 7 weeks!! Surely even fast Eddie isn't that greedy ffs :roll:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

Post by lillywhite14 »

jamiem26 wrote:Hearn reckons at least 3, maybe 4 of Brook, Mitchell, Campbell, Quigg, and Bellew will be on the card.

Brook seems impossible unless he gets Chaves out of there very early.

If 3 of the others are on there in good fights then fair play.
3 out of 4? Them names are not all on the same level. Brook is way above the other 3 and surprise, surprise it will be him who is the 1 of the 4 who doesn't appear on the card! Never ppv quality.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Stuarty30 wrote:Surely even fast Eddie isn't that greedy ffs :roll:
If you pay for one poor PPV (& let's face it, the May show was a poor PPV: two well-matched world level fights & a domestic dressed-up mismatch) then you obviate your right to ever complain when they start putting novices on PPV in fights which they are 10-1 favourite.

It's like the Bill Hicks thing, once an artist allows their song to flog hamburgers, you're off the artistic roll-call forever. If you're paying for a decent fight, then you're part of the problem & have absolutely no leg to stand on to ever criticise the practice of putting all fights on a pay-per-view basis no matter how cack the value is, because your actions have legitimised it.

PS: This is not a personal attack, but my feelings in general about this issue. I realise it's not the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I don't honestly have any other response. People complain, then buy it anyway, & then complain again, louder, when shittier & shittier fights are made PPV.

You can't have your cake & eat it; you can't diss someone for being greedy when you're allowing it & condoning it (which you do by giving the pudenda your money).
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Datsue wrote:
If you pay for one poor PPV (& let's face it, the May show was a poor PPV: two well-matched world level fights & a domestic dressed-up mismatch) then you obviate your right to ever complain when they start putting novices on PPV in fights which they are 10-1 favourite.

It's like the Bill Hicks thing, once an artist allows their song to flog hamburgers, you're off the artistic roll-call forever. If you're paying for a decent fight, then you're part of the problem & have absolutely no leg to stand on to ever criticise the practice of putting all fights on a pay-per-view basis no matter how cack the value is, because your actions have legitimised it.

PS: This is not a personal attack, but my feelings in general about this issue. I realise it's not the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I don't honestly have any other response. People complain, then buy it anyway, & then complain again, louder, when shittier & shittier fights are made PPV.

You can't have your cake & eat it; you can't diss someone for being greedy when you're allowing it & condoning it (which you do by giving the pudenda your money).
I see where you're coming from.

I didn't pay for the May Kell Brook fight out of principle. Despite the fact it sounded like a decent night's boxing. Shot myself in the foot a bit, as I would've liked to watch it.

Ended up watching Fish, Chips And Scraps on Spike TV instead. Which had a couple of decent fights, but historically bad coverage/punditry. Still, chose to support the free view boxing. The only reason they get away with charging for fights, is because people buy them.

Having said that, I'm in no way saying I never order PPVs. I do, and will again. So, I'm as much a part of the problem as anybody else.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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I am sick of Matchroom PPV bills. Have a list of great talent on them, but no 50/50 fights. In fact, most of the fights are closer to being 99/1. I find it hard to believe that Brook's fight against Chaves will remain a PPV without the Fury/Klitschko fight also being in the package now. I haven't paid for the last few, and certainly wouldn't pay for a bill headlined by an AJ fight. I absolutely love watching the guy, but why pay so much for something which is going to be a very short nights works.

Regarding who AJ is, and his past etc, who really cares. People didn't care about supporting Tyson when he came out on rape charges, so why would they care about AJ smoking or dealing a bit of weed. I watch him for the way he performs in the ring, not his performance outside of it.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

Post by SteveDow »

It's a very sad state of affairs when every time there is a British title fight/ domestic level fight that it's on PPV.

Eddie Hearn is, in my view, not great for British boxing. His dominance of the market through his Sky deal as well as his almost criminal affiliation with StubHub is forcing fans to either pay through the nose or miss any half decent fight that involves one of his fighters. Why not just put all boxing on PPV while he's at it. My dislike of the guy grows by the day. Would actually love to see Whyte spark Joshua just to see the reaction on his smug face but unfortunately I can't see it happening.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Brook vs Chaves is just a comically bad PPV, although Joshua vs Whyte would be even worse. Sky should fvck off out of boxing altogether.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Datsue wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Surely even fast Eddie isn't that greedy ffs :roll:
If you pay for one poor PPV (& let's face it, the May show was a poor PPV: two well-matched world level fights & a domestic dressed-up mismatch) then you obviate your right to ever complain when they start putting novices on PPV in fights which they are 10-1 favourite.

It's like the Bill Hicks thing, once an artist allows their song to flog hamburgers, you're off the artistic roll-call forever. If you're paying for a decent fight, then you're part of the problem & have absolutely no leg to stand on to ever criticise the practice of putting all fights on a pay-per-view basis no matter how cack the value is, because your actions have legitimised it.

PS: This is not a personal attack, but my feelings in general about this issue. I realise it's not the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I don't honestly have any other response. People complain, then buy it anyway, & then complain again, louder, when shittier & shittier fights are made PPV.

You can't have your cake & eat it; you can't diss someone for being greedy when you're allowing it & condoning it (which you do by giving the pudenda your money).
I take your point and agree to an extent. Personally I am stuck in most weekends with kids as I work nights during the week and my Mrs works some weekends so the boxing is my thing to look forward to and I will usually buy any PPVs, but that being said if they do try and hit us with three of them on the trot then I won't be buying any as it's just too much especially in the run up to Xmas. Couple of my mates have they boxes with everything on so if possible I'll try and get out to watch one or two of them if I can.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

Post by leejonesjnr »

Psh. If you want to see a fight more than you want £15 then buy the PPV. If you want the money more, don't buy the PPV. That's it.
Even the cheapest tickets to any pro boxing show cost more than a PPV.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Horse wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:He's nice bloke that appeals across the board & he punches like a mule kick; knocks people out quickly, so his performances attract the attention of casual fans which are essential for the sport, plus he looks like a God!
Joshua is not a nice bloke.
What has he done?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Syntax Error wrote:
What has he done?
He once refused to eat his greens, despite his mum telling him to.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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It will be PPV.... you just know it will.

Why do you think they are building the side story - with Dillian Whyte seemingly going for an Oscar nomination? So nearer the date Hearn can make it PPV in the 'Clev v Bellew II' mold.

Whyte will probably even call him a fooking rat at a press conference before long.

The quality doesn't matter to Hearn. What matters is whether or not the casuals can be convinced they are about to see an epic encounter and thus shell out for it.

Some casuals would fork out to watch two chavs fighting behind a boozer if Eddie Hearn and Sky hyped it sufficiently. Its their money they are after, not ours. They are the masses... we are the minority.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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it's upsetting to remember the tear ups that were on itv. Free of charge.
I'm getting old.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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edb1000 wrote:it's upsetting to remember the tear ups that were on itv. Free of charge.
I'm getting old.
I agree, anyone who pays for Sky sports is a mug. Especially if you a boxing fan £40 a month and then a PPV every month, they are taking the piss.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Nightmare Roy wrote:
edb1000 wrote:it's upsetting to remember the tear ups that were on itv. Free of charge.
I'm getting old.
I agree, anyone who pays for Sky sports is a mug. Especially if you a boxing fan £40 a month and then a PPV every month, they are taking the piss.
I agree Sky sports is a mugs game (I'm a mug) but PPV every month? When has there ever been 12 ppvs in one year? So think your going ott there.

What's happening is Eddie lowering the quality of standard Sky card so that nights like this seem worth the money to people.

I don't mind PPV when it's really justified but this isn't, it's so hard turning the other cheek and not buying it though.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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I Think what's happened is that sky have drastically lowered their budget for boxing I order to fund football etc, so they have to have PPV so the fighters/promoter get well paid.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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This bout will be similar to Lennox Lewis v Gary Mason.

It shouldn't be PPV but most likely will be.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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jamiem26 wrote:Hearn reckons at least 3, maybe 4 of Brook, Mitchell, Campbell, Quigg, and Bellew will be on the card.

Brook seems impossible unless he gets Chaves out of there very early.

If 3 of the others are on there in good fights then fair play.
The important part being "good fights".

They'll be there to add name power to the bill but fighting the usual dross so really who cares? Sadly the gullible public & desperate boxing fans will dip into their pocket yet again & Hearm will be proved right.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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I'll say one thing for Eddie Hearn, despite being called pretty much every kind of twat under the sun on here,.at least he hasn't got the kind of litigatory mania that would lead to his name being auto-corrected to 'allegedly' on here...

And that's the only thing I will say for him.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte - December 12th 2015

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Gloves Are Off is tonight at 6.30pm on Sky Sports 1...
Preview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCTRFKlpHeo
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