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magwitch wrote:I think even now, Roy will be too good to get stopped by Enzo. He'll take a few hard ones on the gloves mostly, for sure, but I think he'll ride it out.

Really, he got knocked spark out by Danny Green in 1 round several years ago....

Enzo hits hard and is nowhere near as shot as jones.

Enzo KO inside 2 rounds.

PredatorHayds wrote:I really do not want to see RJJ in with Haye.

RJJ was the fighter of the 90's a true great. Unfortunately he's tried to ruin his legacy by going on so long. It's a credit to his ability that he's gone on for so long.

Enzo would be fun as it's not a total mismatch and Enzo doesn't pull the trigger like he used to.

Haye still pulls that trigger. I would hate to see RJJ get hurt. Also Haye was never the most humble person and I wouldn't enjoy his commentary pre and after fight.

Does he?

Well, he didn't against Wlad, however, that was for fear of getting spanked.

He'd have no such hesitation against Jones Jr.

I have noticed looking at Jones record, that since moving up full time to cruiser, he seems to be knocking people out - not very good people, but nonetheless, he's still capable of putting a beating on people.

I doubt he's going to put a beating on Enzo however, Enzo will land big and it will be game over.

Great fight for Enzo. I epext him to win by KO.

Terrible fight for Roy Jones Jnr. I expect him to be knocked out. Again.

Why oh why is he fighting and being allowed to box on?

His reflexes have diminished, he has much slower feet, reduced hand speed and severely reduced balance.

He was badly knocked out by Tarver, Johnson and Green, all of whom are fairly basis fighters (albeit tough), whom he would have rung rings round in his prime. He is now a long way off being that fighter.

I hope that he doesn't get too badly hurt, but can't see him not getting hit, and not getting knocked out. What on earth is he thinking.

Floyd Mayweather is not the most likable of people -I much prefer Roy Jones as a person, but he is smart enough to know when to quit and not get hurt.

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:I really do not want to see RJJ in with Haye.

RJJ was the fighter of the 90's a true great. Unfortunately he's tried to ruin his legacy by going on so long. It's a credit to his ability that he's gone on for so long.

Enzo would be fun as it's not a total mismatch and Enzo doesn't pull the trigger like he used to.

Haye still pulls that trigger. I would hate to see RJJ get hurt. Also Haye was never the most humble person and I wouldn't enjoy his commentary pre and after fight.

Does he?

Based on his last fight with Chisora then yes.

He carries one punch knockout power. He always has. I can't see him fighting again anyway.

Clearly the winner would be a deserving super champ, considering that neither is ranked by the WBA at CW, they were both were knocked out by 'regular' champ Lebedev, and neither has a world class win or even fringe-world class win in years.

Enzo by stoppage if it happens.

WBA say the fight is not for any title.

http://www.wbanews.com/boxing-news/fals ... nd-the-wba

Either way, PP have opened with Enzo as the 6/4 underdog. Most in this thread seem confident he'll win so that could be a decent bet for you lads.

ElJefe wrote:WBA say the fight is not for any title.

http://www.wbanews.com/boxing-news/fals ... nd-the-wba

Either way, PP have opened with Enzo as the 6/4 underdog. Most in this thread seem confident he'll win so that could be a decent bet for you lads.

Good, though we'll have to wait and see as you never know with the WBA.

Cholo_cws wrote:

ElJefe wrote:WBA say the fight is not for any title.

http://www.wbanews.com/boxing-news/fals ... nd-the-wba

Either way, PP have opened with Enzo as the 6/4 underdog. Most in this thread seem confident he'll win so that could be a decent bet for you lads.

Good, though we'll have to wait and see as you never know with the WBA.

Thing is, the WBA have come out with so many nonsense title fights lately, that it seemed entirely plausable that they would sanction this for their super title.

Good match this. You'd have to go with Enzo as the bigger and considerably younger man. On the other hand, Roy will sort of be at home, apparently he's quite a celebrity over there now. And he has grown into the cruiserweight division well. Nonetheless, I think Enzo takes this one by mid to late-rounds stoppage.

The bookies have Enzo a 2.5 underdog

Quite a rare event, two shot fighters meeting for a world title, it's usually just one, so the WBA have upped the stakes here.

MightyWarrior wrote:Quite a rare event, two shot fighters meeting for a world title, it's usually just one, so the WBA have upped the stakes here.

Enzo isn't shot. He's still a dangerous opponent for good fighters, ask Ovil.

mickey1975 wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:Quite a rare event, two shot fighters meeting for a world title, it's usually just one, so the WBA have upped the stakes here.

Enzo isn't shot. He's still a dangerous opponent for good fighters, ask Ovil.

Since his title days he's been knocked out 6 times, and for both former world title champions, by their standards, that's a long long fall
God knows how some maniac has come up with the idea that they now merit a world title shot - it's a carnival fair ground fight.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

magwitch wrote:I think even now, Roy will be too good to get stopped by Enzo. He'll take a few hard ones on the gloves mostly, for sure, but I think he'll ride it out.

Really, he got knocked spark out by Danny Green in 1 round several years ago....

Enzo hits hard and is nowhere near as shot as jones.

Enzo KO inside 2 rounds.

Spark out? The referee stopped that one, Jones was still standing. To me "spark out" would be more what happened against Tarver or Johnson.

Jones says Macca fight is his last

By Karl Freitag

Roy Jones Jr. says his December 12 fight in Russia against Enzo Maccarinelli will be it. “The fight on December 12th will be the last in my career,” said the 46-year-old Jones at a press conference in Moscow.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/jones-s ... ore-311610

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:I really do not want to see RJJ in with Haye.

RJJ was the fighter of the 90's a true great. Unfortunately he's tried to ruin his legacy by going on so long. It's a credit to his ability that he's gone on for so long.

Enzo would be fun as it's not a total mismatch and Enzo doesn't pull the trigger like he used to.

Haye still pulls that trigger. I would hate to see RJJ get hurt. Also Haye was never the most humble person and I wouldn't enjoy his commentary pre and after fight.

Does he?

RJJ wanted to fight Haye back when Haye beat Mormeck. RJJ was in England and wanted to meet Haye, David couldn't bring himself to beat up his idol. He said Roy was shot and it wouldn't mean anything.

salaambrown wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:I really do not want to see RJJ in with Haye.

RJJ was the fighter of the 90's a true great. Unfortunately he's tried to ruin his legacy by going on so long. It's a credit to his ability that he's gone on for so long.

Enzo would be fun as it's not a total mismatch and Enzo doesn't pull the trigger like he used to.

Haye still pulls that trigger. I would hate to see RJJ get hurt. Also Haye was never the most humble person and I wouldn't enjoy his commentary pre and after fight.

Does he?

RJJ wanted to fight Haye back when Haye beat Mormeck. RJJ was in England and wanted to meet Haye, David couldn't bring himself to beat up his idol. He said Roy was shot and it wouldn't mean anything.

thanks for that, I think

RJJ wanted to fight Haye back when Haye beat Mormeck. RJJ was in England and wanted to meet Haye, David couldn't bring himself to beat up his idol. He said Roy was shot and it wouldn't mean anything.[/quote]
thanks for that, I think [/quote]

It's mentioned in his Book Making Haye. Interesting read, but Roy Jones to me should never have come back down from heavyweight to fight Tarver in a division where he had proved himself time and time again. Shame.

bogan whisperer wrote:Jones says Macca fight is his last

By Karl Freitag

Roy Jones Jr. says his December 12 fight in Russia against Enzo Maccarinelli will be it. “The fight on December 12th will be the last in my career,” said the 46-year-old Jones at a press conference in Moscow.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/jones-s ... ore-311610

Christ Roy looks old. For a black guy he really has aged badly.

He seemed to age overnight when he made weight for that tarver fight - he really must have taken some diabolical liberties with his body.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Jones says Macca fight is his last

By Karl Freitag

Roy Jones Jr. says his December 12 fight in Russia against Enzo Maccarinelli will be it. “The fight on December 12th will be the last in my career,” said the 46-year-old Jones at a press conference in Moscow.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/jones-s ... ore-311610

Christ Roy looks old. For a black guy he really has aged badly.

He seemed to age overnight when he made weight for that tarver fight - he really must have taken some diabolical liberties with his body.

Jeebus! He looks like Morgan Freeman in photo 4! He also has an odd vacant look in his eyes in the photos. Macca doesn't look too fresh himself though.... In photo 5 he looks like skinny 45 year old HIV positive queen..... Sorry to be 'offensive'

reggaereggae wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:Jones says Macca fight is his last

By Karl Freitag

Roy Jones Jr. says his December 12 fight in Russia against Enzo Maccarinelli will be it. “The fight on December 12th will be the last in my career,” said the 46-year-old Jones at a press conference in Moscow.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/jones-s ... ore-311610

Christ Roy looks old. For a black guy he really has aged badly.

He seemed to age overnight when he made weight for that tarver fight - he really must have taken some diabolical liberties with his body.

Jeebus! He looks like Morgan Freeman in photo 4! He also has an odd vacant look in his eyes in the photos. Macca doesn't look too fresh himself though.... In photo 5 he looks like skinny 45 year old HIV positive queen..... Sorry to be 'offensive'

Yeah, I was going to say the same about Macca, he looks like the older of the chuckle brothers (they are a pet obsession of mine) - doesn't look well.

I'm 44, have been battering the booze and drugs for the best part of 15 years on and off, and I look healthier than either of them - well, at least with my top on, and my ventilator temporarily removed.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: Christ Roy looks old. For a black guy he really has aged badly.

He seemed to age overnight when he made weight for that tarver fight - he really must have taken some diabolical liberties with his body.

Jeebus! He looks like Morgan Freeman in photo 4! He also has an odd vacant look in his eyes in the photos. Macca doesn't look too fresh himself though.... In photo 5 he looks like skinny 45 year old HIV positive queen..... Sorry to be 'offensive'

Yeah, I was going to say the same about Macca, he looks like the older of the chuckle brothers (they are a pet obsession of mine) - doesn't look well.

I'm 44, have been battering the booze and drugs for the best part of 15 years on and off, and I look healthier than either of them - well, at least with my top on, and my ventilator temporarily removed.

You are too cruel!

Crikey. Enzo's cheeks look more hollow than Blair's justifications for invading Iraq.

Given that the fight is at CW I'd have expected him to be chunkier already.

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You are too cruel! [/quote]

On the contrary, I feel I am not cruel enough.