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johnswan1 wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Parker's opponent is yet to be named, but his promoters have confirmed that he will face "a risky left-handed fighter for the very first time".

Ok, either these guys completely bullshitting us or Parker is fighting one of either Tony Thompson, Antonio Tarver, Ruslan Chagaev or Mike Perez.

If it's not one of these four fighters then don't bother.

Tarver just flunked a drug test again and TT is fighting Scott. Chageav or Perez would be very ambitious for a young gun like Parker, but I'd be into either match-up as a fan.

johnswan1 wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Parker's opponent is yet to be named, but his promoters have confirmed that he will face "a risky left-handed fighter for the very first time".

Ok, either these guys completely bullshitting us or Parker is fighting one of either Tony Thompson, Antonio Tarver, Ruslan Chagaev or Mike Perez.

If it's not one of these four fighters then don't bother.

You could have long odds on it being any of Tony Thompson, Antonio Tarver, Ruslan Chagaev or Mike Perez.

I suspect it will be someone who barely rates as a fringe dweller. But Parker is headed to the US around mid next year and I'm sure the level of his opponents will then pick up.

davie wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

why not, they are both exciting prospects who have similar pro achievements

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

like AJ

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

see Audley Harrison

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

I'm still waiting on AJ doing the same.
I'm excited about AJ and think he looks a great prospect who could potentially reach the top and light up the division
But I've seen too many David Prices and Audley Harrisons to keep making the same mistakes

Joseph Parker's best professional opponent by age 23 was maybe Kali Meehan or Brian Minto. David Price's best professional opponent by age 23 was nobody. David Price didn't beat a top 50 opponent until he was 28. Audley Harrison didn't beat a top 50 opponent until he was in his 30's. Seth Mitchell didn't beat his first top 50 opponent until he was 29. Anthony Joshua is about to fight his first top 50 opponent shortly after his 26th birthday. 23, 28, 33, 29, 26... as it relates to boxers' ages, these numbers are not the same. The people who fall for fraudulent hype trains like David Price, Audley Harrison, Amir Mansour, Seth Mitchell, etc. are the people who refuse to learn that potential correlates with the achievement / age ratio.

The age thing is irrelevant. All of these older guys were more accomplished amateurs. Their amateur success may not have transferred well to the pro game, but they were at least proven to have world class ability.

Parker has only proved so far that he can beat up tomato cans and old guys who shouldn't be fighting any more.

The guys Price was beating at British level are far better than anybody Parker has been in with.

The biggest positive for Parker over AJ is that Parker doesn't have the same power as AJ, so is not knocking guys out so quickly. The benefit of this is that he's getting more rounds in and those rounds tend to be more competitive than the rounds AJ is getting in.

An old Meehan or past his best Minto on a resume are nothing to boast about. If they are your best opponents then you haven't fought a live body yet.

Lackeos wrote:

davie wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

why not, they are both exciting prospects who have similar pro achievements

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

like AJ

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

see Audley Harrison

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

I'm still waiting on AJ doing the same.
I'm excited about AJ and think he looks a great prospect who could potentially reach the top and light up the division
But I've seen too many David Prices and Audley Harrisons to keep making the same mistakes

Joseph Parker's best professional opponent by age 23 was maybe Kali Meehan or Brian Minto. David Price's best professional opponent by age 23 was nobody. David Price didn't beat a top 50 opponent until he was 28. Audley Harrison didn't beat a top 50 opponent until he was in his 30's. Seth Mitchell didn't beat his first top 50 opponent until he was 29. Anthony Joshua is about to fight his first top 50 opponent shortly after his 26th birthday. 23, 28, 33, 29, 26... as it relates to boxers' ages, these numbers are not the same. The people who fall for fraudulent hype trains like David Price, Audley Harrison, Amir Mansour, Seth Mitchell, etc. are the people who refuse to learn that potential correlates with the achievement / age ratio.

Well Audley would have had a hard job fighting top 50 opponents when he was 23. Seeing as he didn't turn pro till 30
Price was 26.

As I said earlier in the thread, the age comparison is redundant, when someone compared AJ and JP to Fury.

Potential correlates with achievement/age ration?
It's not that simple. There are plenty of examples of people turning pro late and going on to be top fighters

Currently guys like Lara, Golovkin, Rigo, Lomachenko, Usyk, Beterbiev all turned pro in their mid to late 20s after long successful amateur careers and I don't think you would argue these guys have no potential

johnswan1 wrote:The age thing is irrelevant. All of these older guys were more accomplished amateurs. Their amateur success may not have transferred well to the pro game, but they were at least proven to have world class ability.

Parker has only proved so far that he can beat up tomato cans and old guys who shouldn't be fighting any more.

The guys Price was beating at British level are far better than anybody Parker has been in with.

The biggest positive for Parker over AJ is that Parker doesn't have the same power as AJ, so is not knocking guys out so quickly. The benefit of this is that he's getting more rounds in and those rounds tend to be more competitive than the rounds AJ is getting in.

An old Meehan or past his best Minto on a resume are nothing to boast about. If they are your best opponents then you haven't fought a live body yet.

And yet boxrec places JP at #9 . Are you saying the computers
rankings are rigged or fake?

Looking at the guys under JP they are either ducking each other
or semi retired hence why Parker is moving up the rankings so fast.

I heard the next fight for JP is a southpaw . There are some
pretty dangerous sourh paws around but I doubt it would be
against Tony Thompson since hes a bit over the hill now like
Meehan is.

Fred Kassi would be a good start. He is undefeated in his last two fights

evrenb wrote:Fred Kassi would be a good start. He is undefeated in his last two fights

He's the lowest rank in heavyweights in his entire country.
I think he could do someone like Szpilka, Stiverne, or the Americans that haven't been cought using drugs already.

probably Donovan Dennis.

hell fight solomon haumono next in another domestic fight with maybe leapai on horizon.
he shall not be rushed by his team

Cunningham or target be decent test

Parker would beat any American out there, only Jennings could get him in serious trouble.
Mansour would be a nice test though, but I still expect Parker to win that on KO.