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Tony1244 wrote:

SFW wrote:Joe Cortez KO of Ortiz, won't see another one like that

Time outs are not allowed in boxing.

Ortiz needs to hug people before and after fights if that's what's he's into.

You mean like Yusaf Mack?

Manchester Massive wrote:Bonecrusher Smith KO of Bruno was a big shock in the UK

And witherspoon losing in one to bonecrusher,i know his head was all over the place at the time,but still a surprise.

I can remember being surprised when Bernard Paul knocked Jason Rowland out in a round, what a punch though!

SFW wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

SFW wrote:Joe Cortez KO of Ortiz, won't see another one like that

Time outs are not allowed in boxing.

Ortiz needs to hug people before and after fights if that's what's he's into.

haha worst piece of refereeing in that guys long list of screw ups.

Cortez has had some screw ups, but Cortez did say, "Let's Go," right before Mayweather KOd Ortiz, so the KO was legitimate. If you're hugging or touching your opponent for any reason, your opponent has a right to belt you when time is in, which it was.

That ko was not legitimate whatsoever are you insane?

Cortez didn’t fully separate the fighters. He signaled that a point was deducted. He walked back to the vicinity where Floyd and Victor were standing face to face. He never made any clear indication to the timekeeper to start the clock running. And he never made a clear signal to the fighters to resume fighting. In fact, Cortez never placed himself between the fighters and he didn’t even look at them. Just as a fighter should protect himself at all times, a referee should protect the fighters in the ring at all times. Clearly, Joe Cortez was not doing his job.

So, no, that was not a legitimate KO. Not at all. No idea how anyone could even dilute themselves into believing that.

I just watched it. I'm no fan of either Cortez or Mayweather, but the ref clearly said, "Let's Go," and Mayweather went and Ortiz looked like he wanted to hug and talk. You have to protect yourself at all times. Ortiz was stupid not to do that.

Sometimes fighters will touch gloves after a low blow, but both fighters need to be on the ready for a legal sucker shot, and Ortiz lost via legal sucker shot. Plain and simple.

Your conveniently ignoring the rules. You do know there is much more to the situation than simply saying let's go, right? I'm no fan of any of the 3 guys, Ortiz being the dirtiest of the lot.

Tony1244 wrote:I just watched it. I'm no fan of either Cortez or Mayweather, but the ref clearly said, "Let's Go," and Mayweather went and Ortiz looked like he wanted to hug and talk. You have to protect yourself at all times. Ortiz was stupid not to do that.

Sometimes fighters will touch gloves after a low blow, but both fighters need to be on the ready for a legal sucker shot, and Ortiz lost via legal sucker shot. Plain and simple.

Is 'Lets go' an official command? I'm fairly sure it's not in the boxing referees' handbook

reggaereggae wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I just watched it. I'm no fan of either Cortez or Mayweather, but the ref clearly said, "Let's Go," and Mayweather went and Ortiz looked like he wanted to hug and talk. You have to protect yourself at all times. Ortiz was stupid not to do that.

Sometimes fighters will touch gloves after a low blow, but both fighters need to be on the ready for a legal sucker shot, and Ortiz lost via legal sucker shot. Plain and simple.

Is 'Lets go' an official command? I'm fairly sure it's not in the boxing referees' handbook

Sure, "Time In" does sound more official. But what the hell else could "Let's Go" mean in a situation like that?

Jesus dude, open your fornicating eyes. Not one person with a brain thinks that was handled correctly. Your entire argument is a joke. He said let's go lol it's okay. That is as selective as you can possibly get when describing that ridiculous ending. Done, can't explain anything to people who refuse to listen. Just remember, your as wrong as it gets on that one.

SFW wrote:Jesus dude, open your effing eyes. Not one person with a brain thinks that was handled correctly. Your entire argument is a joke. He said let's go lol it's okay. That is as selective as you can possibly get when describing that ridiculous ending. Done, can't explain anything to people who refuse to listen. Just remember, your as wrong as it gets on that one.

I can see you're still crying your eyes out over this one. What part of "Let's Go" can you just not understand? Perhaps you know no English, but Ortiz is from Kansas, so he does.

One could make an intelligent argument that it was immoral to have done what Mayweather did. But you haven't done that here. Perhaps poor sportsmanship, but any with a 2 digit IQ knows it was legal.

"Protect yourself at all times." The HBO announcers got it right this time.

SFW wrote:Jesus dude, open your effing eyes. Not one person with a brain thinks that was handled correctly. Your entire argument is a joke. He said let's go lol it's okay. That is as selective as you can possibly get when describing that ridiculous ending. Done, can't explain anything to people who refuse to listen. Just remember, your as wrong as it gets on that one.

Looking at it again, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJPRhlkVh4 the ref doesn't do a good job. He calls them to box, though not clearly or assertively enough.... Ortiz walks in for the hug (yusaf mack style).... And Mayweather chins him. Yes it's a cheap shot and not in the spirit of sportsmanship... But he has every right to bang Ortiz

reggaereggae wrote:

SFW wrote:Jesus dude, open your effing eyes. Not one person with a brain thinks that was handled correctly. Your entire argument is a joke. He said let's go lol it's okay. That is as selective as you can possibly get when describing that ridiculous ending. Done, can't explain anything to people who refuse to listen. Just remember, your as wrong as it gets on that one.

Looking at it again, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJPRhlkVh4 the ref doesn't do a good job. He calls them to box, though not clearly or assertively enough.... Ortiz walks in for the hug (yusaf mack style).... And Mayweather chins him. Yes it's a cheap shot and not in the spirit of sportsmanship... But he has every right to bang Ortiz

The bold is the bottom line. Time is either in or it's not in, and "let's Go" means time is in. If a fighter only knows a few words of English like "go" and "stop" there may have been a case. But they teach what "Let's Go" means in Kansas.

Tszyu getting mugged by Phillips.

Boxing Prospect wrote:Burns vs Mitchell?

Was at this.
At that point I didn't think Burns was stopping anyone

I go for Douglas KO of Tyson.

johnswan1 wrote:Another one for the ages that shocked the world - Tarver's KO of Jones Jr.

and glen johnson

when that golf pro corey sanders KO'd Klitchkko.

jewboypgh wrote:when that golf pro corey sanders KO'd Klitchkko.

It was Corrie, not Corey who is an unrelated journey man

rahman vs lewis

knicki-dick wrote:I go for Douglas KO of Tyson.

despite all the other surprises,i'd still go for this.

jewboypgh wrote:when that golf pro corey sanders KO'd Klitchkko.

That golf boy was strong as an ox and would knock you into next week! He KO'D Rahman completely out of the ring as well. Dude had a sharp, short left hook. RIP CORRIE.

bigjack wrote:

knicki-dick wrote:I go for Douglas KO of Tyson.

despite all the other surprises,i'd still go for this.

No doubt this was beyond inconceivable that this could ever happen. I know many people who did not even watch the fight because they did not think Douglas had a chance in hell to get out of the first round to wake up in the morning to hear that Mike Tyson was knocked out by Buster Douglas. WOW!

Tarver KO'ing Jones was just nuts. I remember it was the same day that Smarty Jones won the Kentucky Derby. That was crazy.

George Foreman KO'ing Michael Moorer for the legit HW championship of the world was one I would put up there as just a complete shocker.

Nunn vs Kalamby immediately sprang to mind for me as well, but Ottke icing Mundine in the manner he did was also extremely surprising.

Pernell Whittaker whacked Juan Nazarro in one round, Pernell wasn't known as a big league hitter and Nazarro had gone into the 8th with power punching Edwin Rosario, it was similar to Nunn/Kalambey.

Thomas Tate had gone 12 full rounds with monster puncher Julian Jackson so I was surprised to see Thomas get wiped out in 2 by the Prime Roy Jones Jnr.