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Re: George Groves

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 05:15
by edgey2009
When are Andy Lee and Ryan Burnett moving to Mcguigans Gym? I reckon he will let Booth keep Eubanks Jr as an xmas gift.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 06:38
by whiskey
It's good that Groves has sorted out his training set-up and is getting back on the horse.

This is plainly a confidence-builder for him.

Personally I think he probably needs a longer break myself, but obviously they are doing what they feel is for the best.

He's looked lethargic since Wembley, like his feet are sometimes stuck in the mud. I dont know if thats from the heavy KO he suffered, making weight or a combination of both.

He needs to find some of the old explosiveness again. Rather than toiling away to victory with workrate, which plays somewhat to his weaknesses. Picking his punches more again and bringing in more timing and distance. Hard, heavy bursts rather than throwing leather for throwing leather's sake.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 06:40
by danamba7
G0mez wrote:It's good that Groves has sorted out his training set-up and is getting back on the horse.

This is plainly a confidence-builder for him.

Personally I think he probably needs a longer break myself, but obviously they are doing what they feel is for the best.

He's looked lethargic since Wembley, like his feet are sometimes stuck in the mud. I dont know if thats from the heavy KO he suffered, making weight or a combination of both.

He needs to find some of the old explosiveness again. Rather than toiling away to victory with workrate, which plays somewhat to his weaknesses. Picking his punches more again and bringing in more timing and distance. Hard, heavy bursts rather than throwing leather for throwing leather's sake.
Spot on. His change in style has been quite extreme. And the power on his shots seems to have dipped drastically. Needs to go back to that David Haye style if he can.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 10:58
by salaambrown
danamba7 wrote:
G0mez wrote:It's good that Groves has sorted out his training set-up and is getting back on the horse.

This is plainly a confidence-builder for him.

Personally I think he probably needs a longer break myself, but obviously they are doing what they feel is for the best.

He's looked lethargic since Wembley, like his feet are sometimes stuck in the mud. I dont know if thats from the heavy KO he suffered, making weight or a combination of both.

He needs to find some of the old explosiveness again. Rather than toiling away to victory with workrate, which plays somewhat to his weaknesses. Picking his punches more again and bringing in more timing and distance. Hard, heavy bursts rather than throwing leather for throwing leather's sake.
Spot on. His change in style has been quite extreme. And the power on his shots seems to have dipped drastically. Needs to go back to that David Haye style if he can.
Summed it up brilliantly, he took a big hit on his ego too. Very tough to recover from that. McGuigan is a decent move for him, happy to see Haye and Groves together. He needs to feed off Haye. Spar him etc. I think he really looks up to David as a mentor, as he brought him through the paid ranks.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 12:42
by Spud
Not fighting Smith ... Opponent is Andrea de luisia or something like thati

Re: George Groves

Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 12:43
by Spud
Trainer rumours are its Shane McGuigan

Re: George Groves

Posted: 15 Dec 2015, 10:39
by salaambrown
Spud wrote:Trainer rumours are its Shane McGuigan
Hi Spud, are you going to be working with David Haye again since he's coming back...

Re: George Groves

Posted: 15 Dec 2015, 11:41
by jamesmcdonnell
salaambrown wrote:
danamba7 wrote:
G0mez wrote:It's good that Groves has sorted out his training set-up and is getting back on the horse.

This is plainly a confidence-builder for him.

Personally I think he probably needs a longer break myself, but obviously they are doing what they feel is for the best.

He's looked lethargic since Wembley, like his feet are sometimes stuck in the mud. I dont know if thats from the heavy KO he suffered, making weight or a combination of both.

He needs to find some of the old explosiveness again. Rather than toiling away to victory with workrate, which plays somewhat to his weaknesses. Picking his punches more again and bringing in more timing and distance. Hard, heavy bursts rather than throwing leather for throwing leather's sake.
Spot on. His change in style has been quite extreme. And the power on his shots seems to have dipped drastically. Needs to go back to that David Haye style if he can.
Summed it up brilliantly, he took a big hit on his ego too. Very tough to recover from that. McGuigan is a decent move for him, happy to see Haye and Groves together. He needs to feed off Haye. Spar him etc. I think he really looks up to David as a mentor, as he brought him through the paid ranks.
Probably a little scared to commit the same way since Froch took him apart.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 15 Dec 2015, 11:42
by jamesmcdonnell
Especially in front of 80,000 in Wembley like that. :TU:

Re: George Groves

Posted: 15 Dec 2015, 11:46
by keirw
ElJefe wrote:Awful fight. This is headlining a show?

Swear Hearn has mentioned a few times that he's got so many fighters and a limited amount of dates on Sky, but he's happy enough to waste one on this? Di Luisa has no stand out wins, was stopped by Bute in 4 a few months ago and retired against Rebrasse who has 6 KO's in 30 fights. What's the point?
That is a piss-poor main event but the card itself should be decent, Hibbert vs Martin and Ryder vs Khomitsky should be good scraps.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 16:32
by bigjack
groves has teamed up with Shane McGuigan according to the BBC.

Re: George Groves

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 16:58
by samwbr
Hillman Imp wrote:I'm surprised he's not moving up to 175lbs, that's the usual path when a fighter loses a couple.
who would he beat for a world title at 175? The top 8 would all take him out IMO, a few of them quite badly.

Kovalev
Stevenson
Ward
Fonfara
Alvarez
Braehmer
Beterbiev
Pascal

Re: George Groves

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 17:05
by samwbr
Hillman Imp wrote:Good point, perhaps he could do a Bellew, hit the pies and go all the way to 200lbs?
would he carry POWWWAAA like Boomer tho?

Re: George Groves

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 06:27
by salaambrown
Is he finished? Looked so fed up and quiet at the De Luisa presser. Callum Smith fight is all wrong for him. Height, reach plus Groves struggles to take a shot well. Sauerlands are poor matchmakers.