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Benelio wrote:

Fat Git wrote: I don't know about more people talking about Haye beating Valuev, I think the talking point about that fight (on here at least) was that he managed to get an away points decision in Germany!

In the mainstream media, I think the whole 'David Vs Goliath', '6'2" guy beats 7'0" giant in a fight' angle helped it capture the general public's imagination a little better.

Haye pimped himself out to every show going, both before, and after the fight. From Soccer AM to Loose Women, he made himself a household name. His self promotion, not to mention whoever got him all those gigs played a big part. He put his face out there. Did/are Fury's people try(ing) to do the same? I've honestly no idea.

Stevieb8006 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Racism? Against Caucasians? Or are you mistakingly referring to the Caravan Club as a "race"?

I thought the furys were from a Romani background, not just Irish traveller

I believe Fury is of Irish/Irish Traveller descent on both his father and mother's side. I think the reason the media isn't nice towards him is because he doesn't sing and dance to their tune like most athletics, Remember the Olympics a few years ago. I have massive respect for Fury, Great Champ.

stio89 wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Racism? Against Caucasians? Or are you mistakingly referring to the Caravan Club as a "race"?

I thought the furys were from a Romani background, not just Irish traveller

I believe Fury is of Irish/Irish Traveller descent on both his father and mother's side. I think the reason the media isn't nice towards him is because he doesn't sing and dance to their tune like most athletics, Remember the Olympics a few years ago. I have massive respect for Fury, Great Champ.

Talking of fury's mum.....anyone ever seen her or even heard tyson mention her?

Doesn't seem to play as big a part in his life as his dad or uncle.

chiggsy wrote:

stio89 wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote: I thought the furys were from a Romani background, not just Irish traveller

I believe Fury is of Irish/Irish Traveller descent on both his father and mother's side. I think the reason the media isn't nice towards him is because he doesn't sing and dance to their tune like most athletics, Remember the Olympics a few years ago. I have massive respect for Fury, Great Champ.

Talking of fury's mum.....anyone ever seen her or even heard tyson mention her?

Doesn't seem to play as big a part in his life as his dad or uncle.

Good point. Never heard of her

I believe Fury is of Irish/Irish Traveller descent on both his father and mother's side. I think the reason the media isn't nice towards him is because he doesn't sing and dance to their tune like most athletics, Remember the Olympics a few years ago. I have massive respect for Fury, Great Champ.[/quote]

Talking of fury's mum.....anyone ever seen her or even heard tyson mention her?

Doesn't seem to play as big a part in his life as his dad or uncle.[/quote]

Good point. Never heard of her[/quote]

Never at any of his fights,no pictures/mentions of her on twitter etc....

Strange one.

SNG wrote:

Finn wrote:

SNG wrote:I'm glad Fury won but you simply cannot compare Haye wearing a shirt with the decapated Klitschkos on with Fury comparing homosexuals to paedophiles, why shouldn't the media dislike him for it?

In fairness if you watch the IFL interview with Tyson he said that article was a complete stitch up job and that the comments were taken completely out of context and misquoted.

He had actually said something along the lines of peados in the government tried to use the legalising of being gay to push through the legalisation of peadophelia on the back of it, and he also showed the article from the BBC on his phone which published the article which appears to be true.

He said he didn't say being homosexual was wrong but didn't confirm what his personal beliefs are.

Do you have a link cause I can't find it.

http://youtu.be/MHAZYz-xcPo

The guy who wrote it has just been interviewed live by the Irish media and said he "may" have misquoted fury.

reggaereggae wrote:
Good point. Never heard of her

Brief mention in this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... eddon.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sports ... -Holt.html

Full transcript and audio. Can't listen as am at work but this should decide whether he was misquoted or not.

Is Coneye round the bend? Fury's aren't travelling people? Come back with all your insults, mate...

i think we've been told for a long while that you can't discriminate against others that are different (and rightly so) but fury isn't different enough to the average white brit for them to think they are being racist towards him ,i think it's a bit of a class thing as many see travelers as the bottom of the heap socially . i do think he's had a terrible time from the press since beating wlad he boxed a great tactical fight to beat wlad and while a don't agree with his religious believes but they are his believes and are they any different froms holyfields i bet not yet holyfield is held up as a righteous and fury a bigot .

the bit i can't understand from the press is that tyson must be a reporters dream always good for a story and a quote and looks like he could be around for a while yet the first piece many have written about him has been very damming normally the british press likes to build people people up before knocking them down . if i was tyson i'd tell the sun and the mail to f@ck off when they wanted an interview again after the stories they have run about him.

The people calling Fury a bigot certainly don't think Holyfield is 'righteous', that idea is absurd.

Read the transcript, he said those things. What were they supposed to run with? Fcuk me, Steve.

SNG wrote:The people calling Fury a bigot certainly don't think Holyfield is 'righteous', that idea is absurd.

Read the transcript, he said those things. What were they supposed to run with? Fcuk me, Steve.

holyfield got a warning on big brother for homophobia and he said it was against his believes just as tyson did ,and tyson never compared pedos to gays he was comparing now to the end of sodom and gomorrah as in the bible (where the word sodomy comes from) . maybe the transcript was different from the interview i heard but i believe my ears . let 's get theis right i don't agree with tyson but surely he can say what he thinks

stevedoc wrote:

SNG wrote:The people calling Fury a bigot certainly don't think Holyfield is 'righteous', that idea is absurd.

Read the transcript, he said those things. What were they supposed to run with? Fcuk me, Steve.

holyfield got a warning on big brother for homophobia and he said it was against his believes just as tyson did ,and tyson never compared pedos to gays he was comparing now to the end of sodom and gomorrah as in the bible (where the word sodomy comes from) . maybe the transcript was different from the interview i heard but i believe my ears . let 's get theis right i don't agree with tyson but surely he can say what he thinks

You're argument is Big Brother? The idiot contest?

He has every right to say what he likes, but he doesn't have any right for those things he says to be respected or not held up to scrutiny, if that's what he wants he should stay off the tele and out of the papers.

He is comparing homosexuality to paedophilia. His remarks were that there was three things that had to come true for the apocalypse to happen, abortion, homosexuality and paedophilia to be legalised, that is comparing them.

You're a sodomite, Steve. Everyone is. Sodomy by definition is any sex that isn't used for procreation, all them blowies you've had in your life, you're going to hell.

@SNG i said big brother because that is the only time we have seen holyfield being his self rather than the normal praise the lord after a fight ,i'm sure holyfield believes the same as tyson does he probably has smarter PR people around him , and sodomy can mean an unatural sex act but 99% of the time it means bumming . look i don't agree with fury but he's allowed his voice.
to me tyson isn't comparing being gay to being a pedo he's saying the first two have happened and if the last one does that will be the armergedan

Steve, no on is saying he can't say what he likes. You're trying to say that the media is bad for having a go at him for it, when in fact it's his problem for saying those things, if he doesn't want to be scrutinised for his beliefs then he should keep them private, if not he should accept the backlash, there is no choice here, Steve. You're either happy having the platform and the reaction or you're not.

SNG wrote:Steve, no on is saying he can't say what he likes. You're trying to say that the media is bad for having a go at him for it, when in fact it's his problem for saying those things, if he doesn't want to be scrutinised for his beliefs then he should keep them private, if not he should accept the backlash, there is no choice here, Steve. You're either happy having the platform and the reaction or you're not.

if he actualy said gays are like pedo's i'd agree 100% but i don't think he did .let's agree to disagree on this one mate ...

Well i've not heard of Tyson running around demanding they have there bollocks chopped off , he merely stated that 50 years ago people would never off thought gays would be legal , and abortion would be legal , anymore than we nowadays think kiddy fiddling will be legal , and he's right nobody would off in them days except for the ones pushing the barrow for it ,,

Regards armadeddon , well if kiddy fiddling becomes legal at any time in the future , we really are at the end of the world morally if not physicly ,, the year is 2015 , so lets jump to the future ,

The year is now 2115 ,,, and in the last 100 years following the great invasion of Europe from the middle eastern refuggees , Britain has gone from being a safe haven, for the downtrodden to escape to and recive free medical housing and welfare , into a sesspit , unemployment is rife , violence is extreme and staying alive the prime concern for the people who live there especielly whitee people .

The main reason for this is , the british men did'nt have a good shag in them , spent all there money on booze , and drugs , and become infertile , hence they became a dying breed ,, the muslim refugees on the other hand, they bred and bred , and became the dominant force within 50 years , , eventually after gaining seats in local councils , and then local parliment they became the majority of office bearers , The changes they brought were catastrophic to the British way of life , Sharia law , went from being underground and ignored , to mainstream and eventually the only law in Britain ,

Another major change was gays were outlawed , beheaded if found out , and men were allowed lots of wifes ,, perhaps the biggest change to society the way Britain knew it was in what used to be called Pedaphelia ,, which is the practice of fidlling with kids . This is now LEGAL provided , that the fiddler marries the child in question . Men under the new law , may marry a child has young has 8 providing they promise not to fiddle before the kiddie is 10 , which most agree to wink wink

Overall the place that used to be called home and loved by millions of brits , is now a sespit of violence , unemployment and sexual derpravity and needs to HAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDREN NECLEAR BOMBS DROPPED ON IT .

Bullshit heh ,, , probably just the rambling of a idiot on a keyboard , and no more likely to people today has gay marraige and abortion was to a 60 year old in 1955.

Tyson had a good point i agree with him ,, Alls he was saying is the world is a FUCKED UP PLACE .