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Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:02
by afcmarshall
Its not worthy of ppv but I really want to see this card especially Joshua and Bellotti as there both from my home town. I dont have one of those box things nor do I want to watch it on a dodgy stream so I'm left with the options of going to the pub like I do normally for ppv or watch it at home with a few beers. If I go to the pub you cant be certain they will show the undercard in full or will get a good view and I will spend a lot more than £17 in beer so unfortunately I have decieded I wil pay it
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:05
by ILikeBeer
davie wrote:
AAARRRGGHHHH!!!!
this is exactly my point. I might buy it because it's OKish.
What the eff man? you used to get OKish bills on bog standard Sky, christ you occasionally get OKish bills on Eurosport.
In fact standard Sky sports sometimes provides goodish bills and even occasionally great bills without it being PPV.
The very fact that this isn't anywhere near great is the reason the show shouldn't be PPV
A ppv should have main event that is top level. Bellew vs Cleverly and Joshua vs Whyte are a million miles from being ppv headline material.
Not only is there no world title on the line, neither man has proven himself to be world class yet and I strongly suspect Whyte never ever will. It's not top level and it's a mismatch IMHO
As for saying, "well the undercard is OK even if there are some mismatches on it"
Get fucked. I want a good undercard. I want good fighter featured but I also demand competitive match ups. That really is not too much to ask... is it?
Don't get me wrong, there are a couple fights I wouldn't mind seeing. But a British title, a European title and one of 87 WBA Interim world titles just isn't good enough.
If anyone pays for this they're an arse and they're effing boxing!
Alright. Calm down, dear. You'll give yourself a stroke keep getting upset like that.
I wasn't disagreeing that it shouldn't be PPV. More saying that I consider PPVs more when there is an undercard that I also want to watch. This one I was undecided,
because it's okay and not great.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:08
by ILikeBeer
afcmarshall wrote:Its not worthy of ppv but I really want to see this card especially Joshua and Bellotti as there both from my home town. I dont have one of those box things nor do I want to watch it on a dodgy stream so I'm left with the options of going to the pub like I do normally for ppv or watch it at home with a few beers. If I go to the pub you cant be certain they will show the undercard in full or will get a good view and I will spend a lot more than £17 in beer so unfortunately I have decieded I wil pay it
I considered watching it in a pub. Like you say, I'll spend more than £17 in the pub. Probably double that at least. But, at least that way I'll be giving my money to somebody who isn't Eddie, and am combining it with a night out.
It is true that the more we pay for this kind of thing, the more they'll keep showing it. That night the Kell Brook fight clashed with Spike TV's first ever freeview card, I watched the stuff on freeview rather than the PPV to reward the company showing free boxing.
Sadly, I had to watch Fish, Chips And Scraps, which was the biggest tragedy to ever befall sporting analysis. But hey. At least I didn't pay for it.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:45
by black panther
tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
Joke of a PPV for sure though. They'll be having none of my oney. Undercard nothing special at all.
This card is a decent Friday/Saturday Fight Night card which used to be on Sky Sports 1.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:46
by Marlo Stanfield
black panther wrote:tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
yep, this undercard is 10x as good too
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:49
by black panther
Marlo Stanfield wrote:black panther wrote:tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
yep, this undercard is 10x as good too
Eubank vs O'Sullivan and Bellew vs Masternak are decent fights I guess.
But nothing to set the world alight thats for sure.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:52
by Marlo Stanfield
black panther wrote:Marlo Stanfield wrote:black panther wrote:
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
yep, this undercard is 10x as good too
Eubank vs O'Sullivan and Bellew vs Masternak are decent fights I guess.
But nothing to set the world alight thats for sure.
Mitchell Barrosso not to be slept on either IMO. The Groves DeGale undercard was crap if memory serves
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 07:05
by Boxerbeetle
black panther wrote:tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
Yeah, although wasn't it supposed to be a co-main event (or even chief support?) with the Cleverly-Braemer fight before it fell through?
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 07:24
by black panther
Marlo Stanfield wrote:black panther wrote:Marlo Stanfield wrote:
yep, this undercard is 10x as good too
Eubank vs O'Sullivan and Bellew vs Masternak are decent fights I guess.
But nothing to set the world alight thats for sure.
Mitchell Barrosso not to be slept on either IMO. The Groves DeGale undercard was crap if memory serves
I'd wager Barrosso is not much cop. He could be decent or he could be awful - he's fought absolutely no-one of note.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 07:53
by MarkMcBurney
Boxerbeetle wrote:black panther wrote:tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves-Degale was a PPV wasn't it?
Yeah, although wasn't it supposed to be a co-main event (or even chief support?) with the Cleverly-Braemer fight before it fell through?
Yep
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 09:52
by surfthehurf
Junker wrote:
First on in the UK was Bruno v Tyson (the second fight) and at the time it caused outrage. The independent television commission received loads of complaints and a case was launched claiming PPV was illegal. Unfortunately, it didn't win...
Thanks, very interesting. If PPV were to launch today, it would DEFINITELY fail. Bruno Tyson 2 was 1996, before the internet was in every home and certainly before high speed broadband. Also, the majority of Bruno's fights had been live on BBC. I've seen clips of Des Lynam talking about a new knockout merchant from South London under the guidance of Terry Lawless very early on in his career.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 10:04
by jamesmcdonnell
I reckon this ppv will tank.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 10:04
by MarkMcBurney
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I reckon this ppv will tank.
The number will be total arsebollocks, hopefully...
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 10:19
by jamesmcdonnell
Confucious say, "Arsebollocks attract Arsebollocks "
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 10:20
by MarkMcBurney
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Confucious say, "Arsebollocks attract Arsebollocks "
"There's none so blind as those peering from behind arsebollocks, attached to the knob on their forehead"
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 10:47
by stujones
tiny_acres wrote:When was the last time 2 prospects headlined a PPV??
I do not think this has ever happened.No it is not worth PPV and I find it insulting to fans.
Groves vs DeGale 1 - but at least DeGale had proven himself British title level at that stage.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:47
by freddydoesdallas
Will definitely not be buying this now as i'm going to see Kevin Bridges instead.
Will check out youtube when i wake up the next morning
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:48
by danamba7
Joshua 1/16 - Whyte 8/1
Eubank Jr 1/8 - Spike 5/1
Bellew 1/5 - Masternak 7/2
Mitchell 3/10 - Barroso 5/2
Warrington 1/33 - Sanchez 10/1
Campbell 1/33 - Mendy 10/1
Malignaggi 1/16 - Moscatiello 8/1
MJ Ward 1/50 - Gonzalez 12/1
£10 8-fold would get you a profit of £11.45 if all the favourites won.
Great PPV
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:55
by ILikeBeer
Thinking no now.
If I order it, I'll be sat there from 5pm and will drink best part of a 12-pack.
I'll give the booze a break this weekend.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:12
by Nightmare Roy
danamba7 wrote:Joshua 1/16 - Whyte 8/1
Eubank Jr 1/8 - Spike 5/1
Bellew 1/5 - Masternak 7/2
Mitchell 3/10 - Barroso 5/2
Warrington 1/33 - Sanchez 10/1
Campbell 1/33 - Mendy 10/1
Malignaggi 1/16 - Moscatiello 8/1
MJ Ward 1/50 - Gonzalez 12/1
£10 8-fold would get you a profit of £11.45 if all the favourites won.
Great PPV
Lol pretty much sums it up really.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:28
by reggaereggae
Nightmare Roy wrote:danamba7 wrote:Joshua 1/16 - Whyte 8/1
Eubank Jr 1/8 - Spike 5/1
Bellew 1/5 - Masternak 7/2
Mitchell 3/10 - Barroso 5/2
Warrington 1/33 - Sanchez 10/1
Campbell 1/33 - Mendy 10/1
Malignaggi 1/16 - Moscatiello 8/1
MJ Ward 1/50 - Gonzalez 12/1
£10 8-fold would get you a profit of £11.45 if all the favourites won.
Great PPV
Lol pretty much sums it up really.
Im actually looking forward to Hearn Snr 's column in the Sun justifying this STACKED unmissable card......
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:40
by nitro5912
reggaereggae wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:danamba7 wrote:Joshua 1/16 - Whyte 8/1
Eubank Jr 1/8 - Spike 5/1
Bellew 1/5 - Masternak 7/2
Mitchell 3/10 - Barroso 5/2
Warrington 1/33 - Sanchez 10/1
Campbell 1/33 - Mendy 10/1
Malignaggi 1/16 - Moscatiello 8/1
MJ Ward 1/50 - Gonzalez 12/1
£10 8-fold would get you a profit of £11.45 if all the favourites won.
Great PPV
Lol pretty much sums it up really.
Im actually looking forward to Hearn Snr 's column in the Sun justifying this STACKED unmissable card......
stacked in favour of the bookies. I'm not bothing to watch the PPV ill just watch the fights I want to watch on youtube on the sunday or Monday.
fight of the night will be spike v jnr
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 18:16
by Kilburn
Weirdly I think I'm going to get this, but it only serves as starter before one of the biggest nights in UFC history later on.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 19:03
by Supremo
danamba7 wrote:Joshua 1/16 - Whyte 8/1
Eubank Jr 1/8 - Spike 5/1
Bellew 1/5 - Masternak 7/2
Mitchell 3/10 - Barroso 5/2
Warrington 1/33 - Sanchez 10/1
Campbell 1/33 - Mendy 10/1
Malignaggi 1/16 - Moscatiello 8/1
MJ Ward 1/50 - Gonzalez 12/1
£10 8-fold would get you a profit of £11.45 if all the favourites won.
Great PPV
Imagine Sky trying to tell football fans that a tournament consisting of Norwich vs Albion Rovers; Aston Villa vs Droylsden and Everton vs Stevenage was "unmissable" they would get slaughtered, but they cant serve up utter non contests like that where even the ridiculously short priced favorites are just run of the mill fighters and expect folk to swallow it. Utter joke.
Re: Joshua Whyte, worthy of PPV?
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 19:55
by Black Sam Bellamy
The gate receipts should comfortably be able to cover the fighters purses. i don't understand how people fall for it, they must just have too much money to waste.