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Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 02:59
by Freedom2013
Wilder always chooses the weakest possible opponent (for example, Molina and Duhaupas).
Right now, that would be the much smaller and badly faded Tomasz Adamek, or Kyotaro Fujimoto
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 04:16
by Taki...
sweetviolenturge wrote:Taki... wrote:I'd put money on Pianeta or Szpilka. I don't think there's much doubt, given the timeframe, that the WBC will green light anyone in the top 25/30. Maybe a rematch with Scott, or Wilder/Molina 2. The only certainty is that this is going to be embarrassing.
No way Pianeta gets a third opportunity at a heavyweight belt. Especially since he was just humiliated in a round or two a couple of months ago by that old, shorty Chagaev. Which I think was the first time that the Russian had stopped anyone in several years.
I also thought that Szpilka likely had an inside track, but now it sounds like he's bellyaching about the short notice & has ruled himself out.
What an idiot.
It used to be that top ten contenders would stay in the gym in order to be prepared for jusst such opportunities should they arise. Now, these guys act as it heavyweight title shots grow on trees or something...

Every negative you've listed with regards to Pianeta will be seen as positives to Wilder's people.
This fight was scheduled weeks and weeks ago. There was plenty of time to negotiate for some decent opposition. Short notice equates to sub par and either last chance, or never would have gotten a chance, at a title shot fighters. Pianeta is well and truly qualified. No-one with a chance at a mandatory shot -- especially with the IBF stripping Fury -- is going to take a short time, short money offer from Wilder.
I don't think they even want to risk Wilder against guys like Adamek, Cunningham and Chisora. Too solid, too consistent and -- once upon a time at least -- too classy.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 04:20
by Lancenix
marvelous marv wrote:Don't blame Wilder when Povetkin schedules a fight one month after the negotiation period is to begin and gets cut, then his camp begs the WBC for more time to prepare. Wilder and his team has no intention of avoiding Povetkin, they are willing to fight in Russia if need be. Just listen to any of their interviews in the last six months.
Joshua is not ready for Wilder. His management was hesitant to put him in there with Dillian friggin Whyte at this point but he forced their hand.
His victory over Whyte would be more significant than anything the cowardly Wilder has done. Wilder would have never fought Whyte let us get that straight right now.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 04:21
by Lancenix
Freedom2013 wrote:Wilder always chooses the weakest possible opponent (for example, Molina and Duhaupas).
Right now, that would be the much smaller and badly faded Tomasz Adamek, or Kyotaro Fujimoto
Exactly that is what American fighters do these days with the exception of a few.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 08:40
by Badhusker
Blame Glazkov for Wilder's lack of opponent for January. It was clearly a duck, but Wilder will end up with the criticism for it. Blame Povetkin for not being ready to fight Wilder also in December or January, as he knew the schedule, but took the Wach fight instead.
We all want to see Wilder tested, but I have yet to read or hear anything about him ducking any heavyweight. The Molina fight was to test his recently broken hand, which showed....being very reluctant to throw it. Duhapas was a stay busy fight, and he was ranked by the WBC. He was willing to fight Povetkin in December or January, but blame Povetkin for that. His fight with Wach was his choice. Now he has to wait. As for Wilder short notice now makes it hard to find a good opponent, but not his fault Glazkov took the easy way out.
I totally get the criticism for Wilder and his lack of top opponents, but a couple of you guys are downright stupid with your hate.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 09:02
by Roars Like Me
What about Ustinov, get him to cancel the farce that is the Peter fight. Deontay will have a big boy to play with then.

Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 10:15
by tiny_acres
Roars Like Me wrote:What about Ustinov, get him to cancel the farce that is the Peter fight. Deontay will have a big boy to play with then.

Ustinov is rated #31 by the WBC.The fight would not be approved
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 10:37
by greg
..I will rephrase the initial question "Will Wilder step up and fight anyone with a pulse on 1/16"?
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 10:42
by Roars Like Me
tiny_acres wrote:Roars Like Me wrote:What about Ustinov, get him to cancel the farce that is the Peter fight. Deontay will have a big boy to play with then.

Ustinov is rated #31 by the WBC.The fight would not be approved
Yep sad but true

Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 10:45
by tiny_acres
Roars Like Me wrote:tiny_acres wrote:Roars Like Me wrote:What about Ustinov, get him to cancel the farce that is the Peter fight. Deontay will have a big boy to play with then.

Ustinov is rated #31 by the WBC.The fight would not be approved
Yep sad but true

It really is sad.The WBC ratings and all other alphabet ratings are a joke.
Once you show interest in fighting for another groups titles you are then unranked by the others.
Why not just rate all contenders?
And then you have the mysterious fighter who just pops into the top 15 from no where.
What kind of garbage is that?
If you want to get a shot at a title just have a big time promoter or be willing to pay for the ranking.
Money is all it is about to these groups.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 10:52
by zorndeslammes
There's a rumor that it might be a Stiverne rematch. Horrible.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 11:55
by jujigatame
What happened to Wilder/Povetkin? I thought there was going to be a purse bid or something.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:24
by PredatorHayds
I'd be surprised if this isn't Cunningham.
The whole Tarver-Cunningham fight was made hoping there would be a clear winner to generate interest in a Wilder fight, even though stylistically they both should be beaten soundly.
Cunningham is a easy fight to make, still has enough of a name to market on PBC and with enough spin can be talked about as a credible opponent.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:27
by zorndeslammes
jujigatame wrote:What happened to Wilder/Povetkin? I thought there was going to be a purse bid or something.
Povetkin's people agreed to put it off so that both could have interim fights.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:43
by Andrew
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:52
by tiny_acres
Not even in the WBC top 40.It would be a fun promo for this though

Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:53
by tiny_acres
PredatorHayds wrote:I'd be surprised if this isn't Cunningham.
The whole Tarver-Cunningham fight was made hoping there would be a clear winner to generate interest in a Wilder fight, even though stylistically they both should be beaten soundly.
Cunningham is a easy fight to make, still has enough of a name to market on PBC and with enough spin can be talked about as a credible opponent.
Like I said the most logical fight to be made on short notice.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 15:26
by asdfjkl
I hope it will become Briggs, when that happens we're at least rid of one annoying American, since I expect a draw to be allmost impossible.
If the WBC makes it impossible, perhaps Wilder can fight for a WBA rank, it's really annoying that there is so much politics involved in boxing nowadays.
Re: Who will step up to fight Wilder on 1/16?
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 15:48
by tiny_acres
asdfjkl wrote: it's really annoying that there is so much politics involved in boxing nowadays.
It has been too political for years.And each passing year gets worse.
I don't think it will ever improve at least not in my lifetime
