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Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:05
by Rexob
jamesmcdonnell wrote:roy wrote:What's that old saying? "There's no such thing as bad publicity". I think Fury might be cleverer than people give him credit for.
I suspect this is very much the case,
he's been gobbing off left right and centre for a long time now. It's certainly hard to ignore him.
A brilliant strategy to get people to dislike his views, which will guarantee him getting a load more PPV hits for his next fight, just for people wanting to see him to get Knocked out, very clever and Tyson will be in for a mega payday
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Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:05
by Nightmare Roy
Rexob wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:roy wrote:What's that old saying? "There's no such thing as bad publicity". I think Fury might be cleverer than people give him credit for.
I suspect this is very much the case,
he's been gobbing off left right and centre for a long time now. It's certainly hard to ignore him.
A brilliant strategy to get people to dislike his views, which will guarantee him getting a load more PPV hits for his next fight, just for people wanting to see him to get Knocked out very clever and will be in for a mega payday
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It worked for Floyd, dull as dish water to watch be he made more money than anybody.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:09
by Rexob
Nightmare Roy wrote:Rexob wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I suspect this is very much the case, he's been gobbing off left right and centre for a long time now. It's certainly hard to ignore him.
A brilliant strategy to get people to dislike his views, which will guarantee him getting a load more PPV hits for his next fight, just for people wanting to see him to get Knocked out very clever and will be in for a mega payday
![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
It worked for Floyd, dull as dish water to watch be he made more money than anybody.

Got to love the Fury

Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:10
by dalcumly
I'm not going to comment on what he said, but when did the right to free speech come to an end?
There are certain well organised and heavily financed groups in society who have developed an ability to close down debate on any matter which they support.
Can I tell you Tyson Fury couldn't care less about the adverse comments, and he will not change his views or apologise. We have to remember where he's come from.
Wouldn't it be newsworthy if he won the BBC joke event?
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:17
by jamesmcdonnell
dalcumly wrote:I'm not going to comment on what he said, but when did the right to free speech come to an end?
There are certain well organised and heavily financed groups in society who have developed an ability to close down debate on any matter which they support.
Can I tell you Tyson Fury couldn't care less about the adverse comments, and he will not change his views or apologise. We have to remember where he's come from.
Wouldn't it be newsworthy if he won the BBC joke event?
Where does free speech end, and victimising other people begin?
It's a gray area obviously, but you can't just have a free for all if you want to live in a (supposedly) civilised society.
Who wins the SPOTYA, I couldn't give one toss frankly, it's a pretty pathetic bauble. I'd certainly rather be world heavyweight champ.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:19
by Lenny Cravats
I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
Still, seems like a lot of fuss for not a lot. What Tyson said was pretty offensive. It wouldn't really be appropriate to have him on SPoTY, and whilst there's social media to keep us all entertained, these online petitions sneak up on just about anything.
Still, for all those that are screaming 'PC' this and and 'liberal twats' that, your outrage at a perceived outrage is just plain daft. The cops 'investigating' will just be a quick, 'shall we prosecute him?'
'No, you numpty'.
Case closed.
People have been saying horrible things about women and gays for a very, very long time. It's pretty sad that in order to distance themselves from the (largely fabricated) people that are truly offended, they've forgotten to say that, actually, Tyson is a bit of a dickhead and views like this shouldn't be rewarded with prizes for personality.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:37
by Stevieb8006
Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
You assume we are all straight, white men?

Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:42
by Lenny Cravats
Stevieb8006 wrote:Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
You assume we are all straight, white men?

There's probably some darkies and faggots hanging about, but on the whole, yes.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:45
by Stevieb8006
Lenny Cravats wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
You assume we are all straight, white men?

There's probably some darkies and faggots hanging about, but on the whole, yes.

Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 13:46
by palooka
Lenny Cravats wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
You assume we are all straight, white men?

There's probably some darkies and faggots hanging about, but on the whole, yes.
Call the cops.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 15:40
by coneye
Its all starting to sound like something out of Monty Python

Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:13
by samwbr
His views ate horribly offensive but he is far from alone in having them as shouldn't be arrested or fave charges of any nature for holding them or verbalising them.
The threats to Oliver Holt are a different matter and the police should be all over them if possible.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:15
by Horse
Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
Why do you like that?
Lenny Cravats wrote:Still, seems like a lot of fuss for not a lot. What Tyson said was pretty offensive. It wouldn't really be appropriate to have him on SPoTY, and whilst there's social media to keep us all entertained, these online petitions sneak up on just about anything.
He's the heavyweight champion, of course it is appropriate to have him on Sports Personality of the Year.
Lenny Cravats wrote:People have been saying horrible things about women and gays for a very, very long time. It's pretty sad that in order to distance themselves from the (largely fabricated) people that are truly offended, they've forgotten to say that, actually, Tyson is a bit of a dickhead and views like this shouldn't be rewarded with prizes for personality.
Yes, they should.
Boring, media trained bores should not be winning awards for personality.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:27
by Coco
samwbr wrote:His views ate horribly offensive but he is far from alone in having them as shouldn't be arrested or fave charges of any nature for holding them or verbalising them.
The threats to Oliver Holt are a different matter and the police should be all over them if possible.
Journalists need to realize free speech works both ways, they may end up doing their job properly if they had some blowback
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:29
by Lenny Cravats
I agree with the last bit, Horse. Sports people are rarely interesting.
Though I don't think that choosing a bat shit crazy, Christian fundamentalists, offensive lunatic is an exclusive alternative to a snooker player personality.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:45
by Horse
Lenny Cravats wrote:I agree with the last bit, Horse. Sports people are rarely interesting.
Though I don't think that choosing a bat poo crazy, Christian fundamentalists, offensive lunatic is an exclusive alternative to a snooker player personality.
I don't agree with a lot of what Fury says, but so what? At least he's not just parroting lines from his PR agent.
Being an offensive nutter is not the only alternative to being a platitude spouting automaton, but it's better than nothing.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 16:45
by samwbr
Coco wrote:samwbr wrote:His views ate horribly offensive but he is far from alone in having them as shouldn't be arrested or fave charges of any nature for holding them or verbalising them.
The threats to Oliver Holt are a different matter and the police should be all over them if possible.
Journalists need to realize free speech works both ways, they may end up doing their job properly if they had some blowback
I'm no fan of the majority of British newspapers and I've not much time for Holt but he did nothing wrong in that interview. Fury and his entourage need to realise threats of that nature are unacceptable. Saying it was just tongue in cheek or banter isnt credible.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 17:38
by handsofstone
Lenny Cravats wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
You assume we are all straight, white men?

There's probably some darkies and faggots hanging about, but on the whole, yes.

Terrible Lenny
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 18:03
by Coco
samwbr wrote:Coco wrote:samwbr wrote:His views ate horribly offensive but he is far from alone in having them as shouldn't be arrested or fave charges of any nature for holding them or verbalising them.
The threats to Oliver Holt are a different matter and the police should be all over them if possible.
Journalists need to realize free speech works both ways, they may end up doing their job properly if they had some blowback
I'm no fan of the majority of British newspapers and I've not much time for Holt but he did nothing wrong in that interview. Fury and his entourage need to realise threats of that nature are unacceptable. Saying it was just tongue in cheek or banter isnt credible.
After listening to what Fury said I think he was def thrown under the bus.
He did say on religious grounds he does not agree with homosexuality, abortion or paedophilia(sp). He also said in yesteryear it would have been unlikely for homosexuality or abortion to have ever been considered legal. He went on to say that despite it seeming completely unlikely now, in the light of the previous two becoming legal it is possible that chasing after kids could become legal in the future. If this ever happened that is evidence of the devil coming home to roost.
The we see the headline that Fury says gays are just as bad as kiddy fiddlers.
I don't think Fury has ever tried to pretend he is a fan of homosexuality but the headline just doesn't ring true if you take the time to listen to what he said.
I suppose the headline gays are the same as people who have abortions doesn't have the same effect.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 18:06
by handsofstone
Bloody gays always getting their knickers in a twist.............and woman for that matter
Only Joking officer
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Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 18:07
by handsofstone
Good to hear Kellie Maloney getting her bit in though,get off on the hypocrisy
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 18:13
by asdfjkl
For me it's freedom of speach, he doesn't ask for violence against anyone, any group, name it.
Unlike Islam actually, but they say it's racism, which doesn't make sense.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 22:26
by Fatsam
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35055146
More interviews like this for the mainstream media I think.
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 00:18
by Tarkus
Lenny Cravats wrote:I always like it when straight, white men complain about the lack of freedom of speech to make derogatory comments to minority groups.
Still, seems like a lot of fuss for not a lot. What Tyson said was pretty offensive. It wouldn't really be appropriate to have him on SPoTY, and whilst there's social media to keep us all entertained, these online petitions sneak up on just about anything.
Still, for all those that are screaming 'PC' this and and 'liberal twats' that, your outrage at a perceived outrage is just plain daft. The cops 'investigating' will just be a quick, 'shall we prosecute him?'
'No, you numpty'.
Case closed.
People have been saying horrible things about women and gays for a very, very long time. It's pretty sad that in order to distance themselves from the (largely fabricated) people that are truly offended, they've forgotten to say that, actually, Tyson is a bit of a dickhead and views like this shouldn't be rewarded with prizes for personality.
It is indeed time for people to stop inventing excuses for Tyson. Tongue in cheek, bipolar, nice guy in person. Nice people don't say hateful things like those, don't attack everyone, left, right and center. Its time that we all agree on this.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/ ... yrie-video
Re: Police investigating Fury comments now
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 01:44
by bugs
I wonder how many people defending his right to say homophobic and misogynistic hateful crap were also defending Anthony Small when he was spouting his hateful bile? Seems like a lot of people were very anti-Small but very pro-Fury.