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Undefeated49-0 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:If by "better career" Undefeated means Berto has fought and beat better fighters, he might just have a point.

The fact that you lil g huggers just knee jerked without thinking says more about you than 49-0.

And BTW, the "Quillin Unprofessional" post is in the clubhouse as most idiotic in recent memory here.

Exactly, go look at all the bums GGG has fought. Not one person on GGG's resume comes close', hell even triple G is nowhere near Mayweather's league.

Horse wrote:

amwsnw wrote:Bradley deserves the fight as much as anyone else. And i don't think it's a forgone conclusion Manny wins this. Tough fight for Pac. I'm looking forward to it.

He's already fought him twice. It's boring.

It's not like the first two were classics.

Pacquiao should fight someone new.

amwsnw wrote:Doesnt mean Tim doesnt deserve another crack. i didnt find it boring.

sucracristo wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: I think you are over-rating lil g's competition.

Murray is probably the best he ever faced and he has never won a title.
Geale is probably second- one title.

By contrast, Josecito Lopez has won a silver belt just like Murray.
Jon Zavek won an IBF title.
Quintana won a WBO title...over Paul Williams
Collazo has a WBA title
Urango is a former IBF champion
Hell, even Steve Forbes is a former belt holder and has fought everyone.

You really don't want to start comparing the level Berto has fought to the level lil g has fought.
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forbes was a title holder at 130, being used to inflate a career welter's record?

murray drew with sturm for the wba at middle, lost a close one to sergio martinez for the WBC at middle
which i thought was a robbery, lost to GGG, and lost a close one to abraham for the wbo at 168. those are
the only blemishes on murray's record. how is murray fighting GGG at 160 even being put in the same
conversation as berto fighting steve forbes at welter? how does josecito lopez's career at welter compare
to murray's at middle? that's another really bizarre comparison. in his first fight at welter he was losing
on all 3 cards to ortiz who had to retire from an injury, got ko'd at 154 by canelo then came back down
to welter to get ko'd by maidana in his next fight. what accomplishment at welter put's lopez in the same
conversation as murray at middle? urango also briefly held a title in the next division down, but what
accomplishments at welter put him in the same conversation as murray, geale, lemieux fighting GGG
at middle? geale had 2 major titles at middle and his only "losses" were really close fights against top
5 guys. lemieux was a unification fight. i am NOT one of the people on here calling berto a bum. i actually
like the guy and was hoping he would get matched with broner, but these goofy arguments really make
you look crazy. you're comparing GGG fighting top ranked middleweights to berto fighting guys at welter
who have no accomplishments at all in that division.

koolkc107 wrote: Luis Collazo is a better pro than anyone Golovkin has fought.
Carlos Quintana has a win over a better fighter (Paul Williams) than any win ANY of lil g opponents have.
Berto stopped Jan Zavack- who later went the distance with Keith Thurman, and I don't think there is any
argument that Keith is a several classes above lil g's usual competition.

I am not being sarcastic because even though you are a fanboy, you at least try to use logical arguments.

sucracristo wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: Luis Collazo is a better pro than anyone Golovkin has fought.
Carlos Quintana has a win over a better fighter (Paul Williams) than any win ANY of lil g opponents have.
Berto stopped Jan Zavack- who later went the distance with Keith Thurman, and I don't think there is any
argument that Keith is a several classes above lil g's usual competition.

I am not being sarcastic because even though you are a fanboy, you at least try to use logical arguments.

at least quintana, collazo, and zavack are somewhat in the same league at welter as the
GGG opponents at middle you are comparing them to. i don't agree they are better or
even as good, and GGG's performances were better. berto also has losses to guys at welter
that are also equivalent to the GGG opponents at middle you are comparing on their resumes,
which wrecks the resume comparison completely.

berto showed guts against guerrero and made a competitive fight out of it and i wouldn't
count berto out in a rematch and would look forward to it. berto would be a good opponent
for khan and a good gatekeeper for garcia and the 140lbers moving up, including broner
if he returns. i like berto and get annoyed with the posters on here who try to paint good
boxers as bums after a few losses in action fights. berto probably has a few more decent
fights left in him and now that nobody expects anything from him, he could surprise some
people. no comparison to GGG, though, at least until GGG gets knocked out by a soto karass
type guy, and don't hold your breath on that one.

koolkc107 wrote: And it is easy to knock his loss to Soto Karass...but Andre was ahead on the cards
before the stoppage, had even had Jesus on the deck.

And did it all one-handed as he'd injured his right shoulder (his power side) in the second
round of a fight that went to the 12th.

sucracristo wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: And it is easy to knock his loss to Soto Karass...but Andre was ahead on the cards
before the stoppage, had even had Jesus on the deck.

And did it all one-handed as he'd injured his right shoulder (his power side) in the second
round of a fight that went to the 12th.

actually they were even on the cards when berto was stopped, but whatever happens there
will be no excuses from this fanboy when GGG gets stopped by a guy like that at middle.
you may commence the breath holding.

koolkc107 wrote: You're right.

One idiot judge actually had Jesus ahead and another had it a draw.

No way Berto was losing that fight tho Soto Karass had plenty of moments himself.

And, unlike a certain other guy who faked a shoulder injury, you could see Berto having problems almost as soon as it happened.

By round 4, it is clear that Andre is a one handed fighter.

By round 6 everyone knew.

sucracristo wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: You're right.

One idiot judge actually had Jesus ahead and another had it a draw.

No way Berto was losing that fight tho Soto Karass had plenty of moments himself.

And, unlike a certain other guy who faked a shoulder injury, you could see Berto having problems almost as soon as it happened.

By round 4, it is clear that Andre is a one handed fighter.

By round 6 everyone knew.

he should be doing whatever it takes to get rematches with karass, ortiz, and guerrero.
they would all be watchable fights on showtime.

Ricky_ wrote:

sucracristo wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: You're right.

One idiot judge actually had Jesus ahead and another had it a draw.

No way Berto was losing that fight tho Soto Karass had plenty of moments himself.

And, unlike a certain other guy who faked a shoulder injury, you could see Berto having problems almost as soon as it happened.

By round 4, it is clear that Andre is a one handed fighter.

By round 6 everyone knew.

he should be doing whatever it takes to get rematches with karass, ortiz, and guerrero.
they would all be watchable fights on showtime.

Seriously why are you feeding the troll. Berto > GGG is probably on a par with his post the other day that Pacquaio is a "murderer".

Ricky_ wrote:

F off brut, and don't come back.

Ricky_ wrote: F off brut, and don't come back.

And, unlike a certain other guy who faked a shoulder injury

Ricky_ wrote:I got owned.. by Brut telling me Berto has a better resume than GGG and.... he's not really brut.

He brut, eff off and don't come back.

koolkc107 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

F off brut, and don't come back.

Why, when I get such warm, eloquent, and encouraging feedback from posters like yourself?

koolkc107 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

sucracristo wrote:
he should be doing whatever it takes to get rematches with karass, ortiz, and guerrero.
they would all be watchable fights on showtime.

Seriously why are you feeding the troll. Berto > GGG is probably on a par with his post the other day that Pacquaio is a "murderer".

I am not saying Berto is better than lil g.

We don't know that yet.

And as soon as Gennady beats or even shows well against an A level fighter
(one from his own weightclass or higher) I will revise my opinion.

We are comparing careers and levels of competition.

And so far, Berto's is better.

Ricky_ wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

F off brut, and don't come back.

Why, when I get such warm, eloquent, and encouraging feedback from posters like yourself?

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