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Ian1973 wrote:

nitro5912 wrote:why are people comparing them as a fury of now against a Joshua of now???

fury made his debut in 2008 in the pro game, won the british title 3years later in 2011 v an untested but limited fighter in chisora but then took 4years to get his world title shot, in the years in between he was knocked down by Cunningham and pajkic but rose to win.

Joshua only started boxing amateur in 2007, turned pro in 2013. so he has along way to go before he is on the level that fury is.

Joshua needs tests and he got through one Saturday by facing someone he genuinely dislikes, he will take that he fought too emotionally

Joshua now or Joshua 2018 - neither of them beats Fury. Stylistically Fury is a nightmare for AJ.

Fury will face his biggest tests when he's in with smaller, quick, explosive guys with fast hands and good upper body movement. Joshua will never have those qualities, he is stylistically perfect for Fury.

Ian1973 wrote:

broadhurst wrote:On that performance Fury has nothing to be worried about and should welcome a fight with Joshua sooner. Suspect chin, stiff feet, no head movement, no jab, stamina problems. Fury and Klitschko would've had a field day. Fury picking him off and counter punching and Klitsckho jabbing and the straight right (if he still has that shot) and most world class heavyweights would've finished him off when he was wobbled.
Omg i cant believe what im reading here,your talking as if fury has defensive skills like mayweather or something. I know joshua got caught with a good shot and wobbled abit but hasnt that happened to fury against cruiserweights and some american heavyweight iv never heard of? Fury won the most boring championship fight i think iv ever seen,ther wer rounds in that fight were no one hit eachother,for three minutes no one layed a glove on eachother? Fury isnt all this and that u watch in the rematch or if he fights deontay. I just cant believe some of the shite im hearing on here,next time i come on this post im bringing big roll to wipe the sh1t from some peoples mouths. Joshua wouldnt lay a glove on the defensive mastermind tyson fury hahaha That being said look at Fury a few years ago. He has come on a heck of a lot whether you like his style or not. Joshua can work on a lot of his flaws over the next few fights but I'm not sure how far I'd go with the current trainer tbh. All well against lower ranked fighters having the power, hand speed and combos but that alone won't win at the top.

I'm not a fan of Joshua mainly because of the Sky Sports hype and would love to see Hearn's biggest asset crash and burn (bitter i know) but if he takes his time, works on his foot movement, head movement, stamina and getting a jab, Hearn chooses good learning fights rather than more round 1-3 KO's then I can't see him not being a World Champion in 2017.

Bang on. I think Joshua would prove to be a relatively easy nights work for Fury. Joshua is slow and stiff, he'd barely lay a glove on Fury. Fury would move and pop Joshua's head off.

I actually think Haye would be a more difficult opponent for Fury, Haye is faster, smaller and nippier and could maybe get on the inside and he has the power to trouble most people. If he couldn't get to Wladimir though I'm not sure he'd get to Fury either.

thechump wrote:Omg i cant believe what im reading here,your talking as if fury has defensive skills like mayweather or something. I know joshua got caught with a good shot and wobbled abit but hasnt that happened to fury against cruiserweights and some american heavyweight iv never heard of? Fury won the most boring championship fight i think iv ever seen,ther wer rounds in that fight were no one hit eachother,for three minutes no one layed a glove on eachother? Fury isnt all this and that u watch in the rematch or if he fights deontay. I just cant believe some of the shite im hearing on here,next time i come on this post im bringing bog roll to wipe the sh1t from some peoples mouths. Joshua wouldnt lay a glove on the defensive mastermind tyson fury hahaha

G0mez wrote:I think when Joshua hangs them up, he will probably have no points decision verdicts on his record.

He will have wins by KO and losses by KO.

Whilst he was definitely far from flawless on Saturday evening, ultimately it was entertaining and that's what the viewer tunes in for.

I think it's premature to write Joshua's epitaph right now. But I would definitely agree that on the strength of their last 2 performances, Fury would likely beat Joshua via points or by a dog-tired late stoppage.

But boxing is a funny game, perhaps Wlad DID have an off night, perhaps he comes on like a steam train in the rematch and defeats Fury ? but if Fury repeats his victory and even improves on the first fight, then he's the no1 without a shadow of doubt and nobody can make a case against him for it, either at home or abroad.

nitro5912 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

nitro5912 wrote:why are people comparing them as a fury of now against a Joshua of now???

fury made his debut in 2008 in the pro game, won the british title 3years later in 2011 v an untested but limited fighter in chisora but then took 4years to get his world title shot, in the years in between he was knocked down by Cunningham and pajkic but rose to win.

Joshua only started boxing amateur in 2007, turned pro in 2013. so he has along way to go before he is on the level that fury is.

Joshua needs tests and he got through one Saturday by facing someone he genuinely dislikes, he will take that he fought too emotionally

Joshua now or Joshua 2018 - neither of them beats Fury. Stylistically Fury is a nightmare for AJ.

Fury will face his biggest tests when he's in with smaller, quick, explosive guys with fast hands and good upper body movement. Joshua will never have those qualities, he is stylistically perfect for Fury.

I disagree, if Joshua has learnt his lesson, learns to move his head a bit more and come in from angles other than straight he will trouble fury.

fury could bob and weave against someone who threw 231 punches landing 52. if someone throws another 100 plus then he wont look like mayweather jnr or be able to show boat.

AJ has lots to learn but when did fury become this defensive master??

thechump wrote:

G0mez wrote:I think when Joshua hangs them up, he will probably have no points decision verdicts on his record.

He will have wins by KO and losses by KO.

Whilst he was definitely far from flawless on Saturday evening, ultimately it was entertaining and that's what the viewer tunes in for.

I think it's premature to write Joshua's epitaph right now. But I would definitely agree that on the strength of their last 2 performances, Fury would likely beat Joshua via points or by a dog-tired late stoppage.

But boxing is a funny game, perhaps Wlad DID have an off night, perhaps he comes on like a steam train in the rematch and defeats Fury ? but if Fury repeats his victory and even improves on the first fight, then he's the no1 without a shadow of doubt and nobody can make a case against him for it, either at home or abroad.

I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

stevedoc wrote:

thechump wrote:

G0mez wrote:I think when Joshua hangs them up, he will probably have no points decision verdicts on his record.

He will have wins by KO and losses by KO.

Whilst he was definitely far from flawless on Saturday evening, ultimately it was entertaining and that's what the viewer tunes in for.

I think it's premature to write Joshua's epitaph right now. But I would definitely agree that on the strength of their last 2 performances, Fury would likely beat Joshua via points or by a dog-tired late stoppage.

But boxing is a funny game, perhaps Wlad DID have an off night, perhaps he comes on like a steam train in the rematch and defeats Fury ? but if Fury repeats his victory and even improves on the first fight, then he's the no1 without a shadow of doubt and nobody can make a case against him for it, either at home or abroad.

I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

to say whyte would KO fury is just plain stupid if you're gonna troll at least say something plausible

mickey1975 wrote:Chisora was terrified of Tyson. No way is he going to be intimidated by Josh.

thechump wrote: I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

thechump wrote:Omg i cant believe what im reading here,your talking as if fury has defensive skills like mayweather or something. I know joshua got caught with a good shot and wobbled abit but hasnt that happened to fury against cruiserweights and some american heavyweight iv never heard of? Fury won the most boring championship fight i think iv ever seen,ther wer rounds in that fight were no one hit eachother,for three minutes no one layed a glove on eachother? Fury isnt all this and that u watch in the rematch or if he fights deontay. I just cant believe some of the shite im hearing on here,next time i come on this post im bringing bog roll to wipe the sh1t from some peoples mouths. Joshua wouldnt lay a glove on the defensive mastermind tyson fury hahaha

stevedoc wrote:

thechump wrote:

G0mez wrote:I think when Joshua hangs them up, he will probably have no points decision verdicts on his record.

He will have wins by KO and losses by KO.

Whilst he was definitely far from flawless on Saturday evening, ultimately it was entertaining and that's what the viewer tunes in for.

I think it's premature to write Joshua's epitaph right now. But I would definitely agree that on the strength of their last 2 performances, Fury would likely beat Joshua via points or by a dog-tired late stoppage.

But boxing is a funny game, perhaps Wlad DID have an off night, perhaps he comes on like a steam train in the rematch and defeats Fury ? but if Fury repeats his victory and even improves on the first fight, then he's the no1 without a shadow of doubt and nobody can make a case against him for it, either at home or abroad.

I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

to say whyte would KO fury is just plain stupid if you're gonna troll at least say something plausible

G0mez wrote:

thechump wrote: I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

You think they'd both beat Wladimir Klitschko in Germany too, if they'd make light work of Fury ?

Finn wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Finn wrote:
or possibly both

Isn't that hilarious. Hey, remember that time Fury got flattened by a cruiserweight thst weighed about 5 stone lighter? That was a

You mean the time he got straight back up and then went on to win a one sided fight?

gobbles wrote:

Finn wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Isn't that hilarious. Hey, remember that time Fury got flattened by a cruiserweight thst weighed about 5 stone lighter? That was a

You mean the time he got straight back up and then went on to win a one sided fight?

No the fight against Cunningham where he got chinned again two rounds later but landed on Cunningham and stayed upright.

Fury's success is all about the discipline that Peter has instilled in him. You can't just write off the Cunningham knockdown as a fluke, he was getting caught in a regular basis then, look at the the first McDermott fight.

The Cunningham fight was the last one where he actually got into a fight, ever since then it's been switch-hitting and holding, which is ironic considering they slagged off Wlad for being boring. If Fury starts believing all the back-slappers, it will be interesting if he puts himself in harm's way again.

G0mez wrote:

thechump wrote: I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

You think they'd both beat Wladimir Klitschko in Germany too, if they'd make light work of Fury ?

lillywhite14 wrote: If it had to happen now then Joshua's best chance would be to rile Fury up big time, insult him, go for him, insult his family etc, get him angry and try and lure him into a war.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

G0mez wrote:

thechump wrote: I think joshua would blow him away with 4 rounds and i think whyte would blow fury away with 6,they are too powerful and too fast for fury's one paced style to handle

You think they'd both beat Wladimir Klitschko in Germany too, if they'd make light work of Fury ?

Joshua admitted after sparring Wlad he was still a long way behind him.
Whyte? Come on chump!
Joshua and Whyte are closer to Hughie Fury than Tyson.

thechump wrote: Thats in sparring and that was about 12 months ago joshua made that comment,imagine now with 10oz gloves on in a proper fight joshua would blow him awayif i was anyone in the heavyweights now id fancy my chances against TYSON fury.