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chiggsy wrote:

rd350lc wrote:

chiggsy wrote:Am buying one of them tinkered with amazon fire sticks in jan,i'll report back with my findings....

hope you have more luck than I did , for general streaming (not kodi) Roku Pi$$ all over them

Are there dodgy ones available online anywere with all the sports/movies on them?


I kNow jackshizzle about streaming devices as i've always just payed for ppv/bn but i'm sick of paying over a ton a month for sky.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:What PPV fights could he have up his sleeve ?

Khan v Pacman

Saunders v Canelo

Fury v Haye

I liked his perspective on PPV events ie that there are only 3 or 4 potential fights a year which is bang right. Eddie would have one every fuckin month if he could get away with it.

wesshaw1985 wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:What PPV fights could he have up his sleeve ?

Khan v Pacman

Saunders v Canelo

Fury v Haye

I liked his perspective on PPV events ie that there are only 3 or 4 potential fights a year which is bang right. Eddie would have one every fuckin month if he could get away with it.

Frampton v Rigo

Fury v Wilder

Saunders v Golovkin

stujones wrote:

digzee wrote:

stujones wrote:Whilst it is clearly apparent that Eddie doesn't have exclusivity to Sky box office boxing events - I don't think what Frank and George said was hardly groundbreaking..... correct me if I am wrong but did the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight have any (c) Matchroom Sports in its closing credits? I don't think Team Money went through Eddie to broker that deal?

That's because Camp Eddie said no British fighter can fight on SKY sports box office without him, he was implying Khan and Fury cant be on PPV without his say so. This now means Frank can get say Khan vs Pac or Fury vs Wlad on SKY PPV without Camp Eddie getting involved.

Did Eddie say no British fighter, or fights on British soil or did he say no boxing all together. I thought it was very much the later..... I really don't think Eddie would ever have much of a say if Khan vs Garcia 2 (as an example - two Hayman fighters) was signed and Hayman pitched it to SBO.

The moment Sky got May vs Pac it was clearly and obviously BS. I cannot imagine it ever being in a contract - "Exclusively British fighters have to go through me, yes you can put other promoters bills on Sky PPV, but if one of the fighters has a british passport - sorry, must go through me again".

I don't think this will mean more British PPV's for non allegedly subscribers in the first instance. What it will probably mean in the first instance is that BN will secure more international rights cos they will make more money on the bigger fights which are currently only (in essence, yes I know about the £30 PPV but don't know anyone who signs up for that) available to BN subscribers.... fights like Cotto vs Alvarez etc..... then, with the extra cash - he could secure rights to other international suppliers....e.g. when Saurland's deal with Eddie/Sky ends.

digzee wrote:

stujones wrote:

digzee wrote: That's because Camp Eddie said no British fighter can fight on SKY sports box office without him, he was implying Khan and Fury cant be on PPV without his say so. This now means Frank can get say Khan vs Pac or Fury vs Wlad on SKY PPV without Camp Eddie getting involved.

Did Eddie say no British fighter, or fights on British soil or did he say no boxing all together. I thought it was very much the later..... I really don't think Eddie would ever have much of a say if Khan vs Garcia 2 (as an example - two Hayman fighters) was signed and Hayman pitched it to SBO.

The moment Sky got May vs Pac it was clearly and obviously BS. I cannot imagine it ever being in a contract - "Exclusively British fighters have to go through me, yes you can put other promoters bills on Sky PPV, but if one of the fighters has a british passport - sorry, must go through me again".

I don't think this will mean more British PPV's for non allegedly subscribers in the first instance. What it will probably mean in the first instance is that BN will secure more international rights cos they will make more money on the bigger fights which are currently only (in essence, yes I know about the £30 PPV but don't know anyone who signs up for that) available to BN subscribers.... fights like Cotto vs Alvarez etc..... then, with the extra cash - he could secure rights to other international suppliers....e.g. when Saurland's deal with Eddie/Sky ends.

Listen to the interview again from around 15 minutes onwards he says any UK fighter has to be agreed by him and its in his contract with SKY, even if they are fighting abroad. So Hayman would have to get the go ahead from Eddie if he wanted Khan vs Garcia 2 on SKY sports PPV. Also listen from 20mins 30 seconds as he says only 2 non British fighters fighting abroad (May vs Pac) is the only circumstance where he doesn't have any contractual rights.

Boxerbeetle wrote:I watched Hearn's IFL interview in full last night. Whilst I do appreciate a lot of what he said about Matchroom developing boxing similar to the way they developed darts by expanding the market & appealing to a wider audience (the 'casuals' ), I still don't understand how boxing apparently requires regular PPVs where other sports don't.

Obviously I do understand that certain fights like Mayweather-Pacquaio or Quigg-Frampton probably can't be made without PPV money these days, but surely a British title fight between 2 relative novices can be made easily without needing to be on PPV?

digzee wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I watched Hearn's IFL interview in full last night. Whilst I do appreciate a lot of what he said about Matchroom developing boxing similar to the way they developed darts by expanding the market & appealing to a wider audience (the 'casuals' ), I still don't understand how boxing apparently requires regular PPVs where other sports don't.

Obviously I do understand that certain fights like Mayweather-Pacquaio or Quigg-Frampton probably can't be made without PPV money these days, but surely a British title fight between 2 relative novices can be made easily without needing to be on PPV?

That's the thing that pisses me off Eddie could have put AJ vs Whyte on SS1, as well as Clev vs Bellew, but he's a greedy pudendum.

@ Coneye boxing fans are not fickle we just want value for money, when Frank was at SKY he wasn't delivering he got comfortable and complacent putting on poor shows then Eddie came in and we were promised no more PPV's and the quality of shows improved, but now we've been forced to pay out PPV 4 times this year (both within a month of each other) and he's just stacking cards as a way to make a show PPV worthy, in the meantime Frank has started his own channel and its been a great success so we have to give him his dues.

wesshaw1985 wrote:How do you guys think a PPV that looked like this would do?

Saunders vs. Eubank jr 2 - WBO Middleweight Title
Groves vs. Buglioni
Afolabi vs. McKenzie
Chisora vs. Towers
Whyte vs. Cornish
Catterall vs. Theopane
Skeete vs. McDonagh 2

7 fight main card from the o2 Arena?

rd350lc wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:How do you guys think a PPV that looked like this would do?

Saunders vs. Eubank jr 2 - WBO Middleweight Title
Groves vs. Buglioni
Afolabi vs. McKenzie
Chisora vs. Towers
Whyte vs. Cornish
Catterall vs. Theopane
Skeete vs. McDonagh 2

7 fight main card from the o2 Arena?

Good domestic card , that is a million miles away from a ppv " special" event as Sky would call it .

wesshaw1985 wrote:

rd350lc wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:How do you guys think a PPV that looked like this would do?

Saunders vs. Eubank jr 2 - WBO Middleweight Title
Groves vs. Buglioni
Afolabi vs. McKenzie
Chisora vs. Towers
Whyte vs. Cornish
Catterall vs. Theopane
Skeete vs. McDonagh 2

7 fight main card from the o2 Arena?

Good domestic card , that is a million miles away from a ppv " special" event as Sky would call it .

Agreed.
But is it that far away from the 7-fight card matchroom have just put on from the same venue that sold out and drew a buyrate of around 400,000?

palooka wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:

rd350lc wrote:
Good domestic card , that is a million miles away from a ppv " special" event as Sky would call it .

Agreed.
But is it that far away from the 7-fight card matchroom have just put on from the same venue that sold out and drew a buyrate of around 400,000?

No it's not and if they starve us of shows I'll buckle and buy it.