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Tuan_Jim wrote:It was intended to be ridiculous, to make light of how ridiculous any Foreman/Lewis comparison is.

Whatever you write in response to this, the above sentence is my reply, again and again, forever until you understand it.

I understand it. We just disagree on how ridiculous a Foreman/Lewis comparison is. Although I do agree that they had completely different styles.

Let's be honest, every comparison made so far in this thread has been nonsense and of virtually zero relevance to the conversation. I should know, I made the first Foreman/Lewis comparison
I think that's basically the point everyone is trying to make. It was the point I was trying to make when I posted the Foreman video, you can't just post up a video and go "this is how it'll turn out"
I was trying to make a point, it would appear that point was missed

As ever weighing up this titanic bout is hard, with little point of reference to compare, because neither really ever faced a man like the other, something that recurs time and again trying to compare 2 guys in the top 10 of their respective weight.

It would be an interesting matchup of styles. And I still think Frazier would edge it,
while I'd say Lewis still has the power to deliver a leveller and with the right game plan and approach would be a very live under dog

Do you think that most of us tend to underestimate the importance of size in the HW division?

I say this in all sincerity, since I go back and forth on it, and currently the bigger guys are ruling the division.

Maybe it's time to truly create another weight division on top?

More people overestimate the importance of size in the heavyweight division than underestimate it.

Size seems to be the be-all and end-all when it comes to heavyweight discussion online.

Tuan_Jim wrote:Size seems to be the be-all and end-all when it comes to heavyweight discussion online.

It isn't but it plays a more significant role.
The heavywieght division is the only division you could pair 2 fighters with a foot difference in height and/or 100lbs difference in weight.

Joe Frazier could beat Lewis. But he wouldn't just have to be better, he'd have to be much better and there are only certain styles that can be adopted to beat a man significantly bigger than you.

Modern day is no different. There is a lot of discussion about the heavy weights just now in the current scene/British & Irish forums.
I maintain that Povetkin is a better fighter than Wilder, Wlad or Fury, as was Haye at his best. But some of these guys have shown that if the bigger man uses his natural advatages correctly and comes in with the right game plan and sticks to it against the smaller fighter he can be close to unbeatable. Not to say a smaller fighter can't win. But being better is not enough. He has to be so much better

BoxBuzz wrote:Do you think that most of us tend to underestimate the importance of size in the HW division?

I say this in all sincerity, since I go back and forth on it, and currently the bigger guys are ruling the division.

Maybe it's time to truly create another weight division on top?

It's no coincidence as the talent pool of heavyweights has gone to garbageland that you have the taller guys dominating. Look at their competition.

And I'd still favor Haye and Povetkin, really the only two smaller heavyweights with good AM backgrounds and any talent, to beat Fury, Wilder, Martin, Joshua etc. despite the fact they are past their physical primes.