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A Mark De Mori rematch.

I don't think the ending was conclusive enough.

ILikeBeer wrote:A Mark De Mori rematch.

I don't think the ending was conclusive enough.

This.

He was clearly putting his hand up to let the ref know he was OK.

mimmy123 wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:Let's have it right, if Haye wants to cancel a fight for whatever reason that's his prerogative.

He's the one putting himself through murder every day in the gym. He's the one getting smashed in the face on fight night. He's the one pissing blood for a week afterwards.

"Fans" may have lost out financially - that's unfortunate but not really his concern. He's in the game to earn the most money he can - they all are

I dont agree with this at all. If a boxer pulls out of a fight because he has a sore toe thats just taking the piss. If a boxer pulls out of a fight because he hurts his shoulder then shows a photo of himself in a hospital bed, then a few days later shows another photo of himself swinging a baseball bat, again thats taking the piss. its the fans who has made his fortune, without that base you have nothing. Plus I very much doubt that Haye was pissing blood all Sunday morning either.

Ha'way man, have a word with yourself. He got cut and the fight got cancelled and somehow that's Haye's fault. He wouldn't be allowed to start a fight with a cut and neither would anybody else. As far as the shoulder surgery is concerned, he took medical advice and had potentially career ending surgery just to avoid Tysoe Fury? Don't make me laugh. Haye wasted a year of his life as well. Haye also wasted the money from the training camps. This conspiracy theory of fake injuries is absolutely shite. Complete Bollocks. I bought tickets for Haye-Fury and I took it on the chin. Do you know why? Because he got injured and injuries happen.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:Let's have it right, if Haye wants to cancel a fight for whatever reason that's his prerogative.

He's the one putting himself through murder every day in the gym. He's the one getting smashed in the face on fight night. He's the one pissing blood for a week afterwards.

"Fans" may have lost out financially - that's unfortunate but not really his concern. He's in the game to earn the most money he can - they all are

I dont agree with this at all. If a boxer pulls out of a fight because he has a sore toe thats just taking the piss. If a boxer pulls out of a fight because he hurts his shoulder then shows a photo of himself in a hospital bed, then a few days later shows another photo of himself swinging a baseball bat, again thats taking the piss. its the fans who has made his fortune, without that base you have nothing. Plus I very much doubt that Haye was pissing blood all Sunday morning either.

Ha'way man, have a word with yourself. He got cut and the fight got cancelled and somehow that's Haye's fault. He wouldn't be allowed to start a fight with a cut and neither would anybody else. As far as the shoulder surgery is concerned, he took medical advice and had potentially career ending surgery just to avoid Tysoe Fury? Don't make me laugh. Haye wasted a year of his life as well. Haye also wasted the money from the training camps. This conspiracy theory of fake injuries is absolutely shite. Complete Bollocks. I bought tickets for Haye-Fury and I took it on the chin. Do you know why? Because he got injured and injuries happen.

How many times do you have to take it on the chin for 1 boxer to keep cancelling fights? How many times until you say enuff in enuff! There are many many people, boxing fans just like you and me who lost much much more than 1 fight ticket booking fee, what about all those who lost hotel fees, not jus tonce but twice, all those who lost booking fees not on one occasion but 2. Fake injuries thats what they are. People work hard to spend a bit of free cash on entertainment people just cant afford to keep on losing.

People moan on about this like Haye owes them a living. I assume you got your ticket money back - that's all he owes you.

As for the injuries - it suits the Fury camp (two prominent members of whom are convicted criminals) to badmouth Haye. The readiness of some people to believe their guff suggests they're either thinking with their wallets or are hopelessly naive. Why would Haye, a man who has gone into the lions den and won world titles on two occasions, be scared enough of Fury to fake injury to avoid fighting him thereby costing himself a not inconsiderable sum in the process.

I would like to see him in with someone like Stiverne or Jennings.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:People moan on about this like Haye owes them a living. I assume you got your ticket money back - that's all he owes you.

As for the injuries - it suits the Fury camp (two prominent members of whom are convicted criminals) to badmouth Haye. The readiness of some people to believe their guff suggests they're either thinking with their wallets or are hopelessly naive. Why would Haye, a man who has gone into the lions den and won world titles on two occasions, be scared enough of Fury to fake injury to avoid fighting him thereby costing himself a not inconsiderable sum in the process.

What has their criminal past to do with it?

The fact is, for whatever reason, Haye twice pulled out, costing Fury and his team a lot of time and money. I'm not saying I believe them I hasten to add.

Went with Chris Arreola in the end...the guy brings a bit of attitude but can actually back it up with some meaningful experience and also some ability; but he is entirely beatable these days.

Plus I think he'll give David a few good rounds - maybe clip him a few times - and we'll have a far clearer idea as to whether David is fully committed or not.

Things could get messy and hard with someone like Arreola for a few rounds - who is a live gatekeeper - and that might actually do David a favour in the long run.

I thought about Price but I just see Haye jumping the big man early and that does not do Haye much good in terms of ring-time.

Haye vs Price would go on about as long as Haye's previous fight.

Chambers is a good shout you know.

Just hope Haye is back by the end of April at the latest.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:People moan on about this like Haye owes them a living. I assume you got your ticket money back - that's all he owes you.

As for the injuries - it suits the Fury camp (two prominent members of whom are convicted criminals) to badmouth Haye. The readiness of some people to believe their guff suggests they're either thinking with their wallets or are hopelessly naive. Why would Haye, a man who has gone into the lions den and won world titles on two occasions, be scared enough of Fury to fake injury to avoid fighting him thereby costing himself a not inconsiderable sum in the process.

What has their criminal past to do with it?

The fact is, for whatever reason, Haye twice pulled out, costing Fury and his team a lot of time and money. I'm not saying I believe them I hasten to add.

Criminals are more likely to lie

Haye's pullout cost him time and money too

Haye defenders are making out its just the two fury fights he's pulled. Didn't he fukk chisora about? Wasn't charr cancelled? All that pissed off the fans as well I'd have thought

Stevieb8006 wrote:Haye defenders are making out its just the two fury fights he's pulled. Didn't he fukk chisora about? Wasn't charr cancelled? All that pissed off the fans as well I'd have thought

He withdrew from two Fury dates and Charr with Injuries, was there also a delay with Chisora? I didn't realise.

He's cost me hundreds over the years. Wlad June 2009 being the worst. I wish he had pulled out of the Hamburg show.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:People moan on about this like Haye owes them a living. I assume you got your ticket money back - that's all he owes you.

As for the injuries - it suits the Fury camp (two prominent members of whom are convicted criminals) to badmouth Haye. The readiness of some people to believe their guff suggests they're either thinking with their wallets or are hopelessly naive. Why would Haye, a man who has gone into the lions den and won world titles on two occasions, be scared enough of Fury to fake injury to avoid fighting him thereby costing himself a not inconsiderable sum in the process.

What has their criminal past to do with it?

The fact is, for whatever reason, Haye twice pulled out, costing Fury and his team a lot of time and money. I'm not saying I believe them I hasten to add.

But it cost Haye the same money and the Fury's are mad enough to believe that Haye not only cut himself, but also had major shoulder surgery just to avoid a guy he was favoured to beat. They also thought Wlad would never box them, which he errrrr, did.

Do you believe he hurt his back in 2009, Keith, when he cost thousands of fans a lot of money?

Do you believe he hurt his back in 2009, Keith, when he cost thousands of fans a lot of money?

mickey1975 wrote:Do you believe he hurt his back in 2009, Keith, when he cost thousands of fans a lot of money?

Do you believe he cut himself?

the people that think haye cut himself are stupid idiots

im a massive fury fan and haye was 100 percent confident he would knock him out easy and collect his six million plus cheque

at the time nobody knew how good fury was..

id like to see haye fight briggs next for the fun of it as eddie and aj are gone running

they will not fight haye

even aj recently admitted that when he sparred haye he was not able for his speed and he rates him very highly

I'd say he has to fight someone like Pulev, he's in the top ten ranked in the world, the only man who's actually beat him was Klitschko, this fight pretty much would put Haye right back in the title picture.
Other then him I'd say go to America and knock out one of their top ten ranked men (Scott, Cunningham, Stiverne)

danamba7 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:A Mark De Mori rematch.

I don't think the ending was conclusive enough.

This.

He was clearly putting his hand up to let the ref know he was OK.

How about Bermaine Stiverne? That guy has a chin....I'd like to see it.

Steve Cunningham would be an easyish fight to make and he's still highly ranked, especially with the IBF.

Charles Martin is woeful: if Haye wants an easy route to a belt that's it.

black panther wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:A Mark De Mori rematch.

I don't think the ending was conclusive enough.

This.

He was clearly putting his hand up to let the ref know he was OK.

How about Bermaine Stiverne? That guy has a chin....I'd like to see it.

Steve Cunningham would be an easyish fight to make and he's still highly ranked, especially with the IBF.

Charles Martin is woeful: if Haye wants an easy route to a belt that's it.

Stiverne is a good shout.

If Haye is serious & wants a test, Stiverne would be a good bet.

We need to see what level Haye is operating at & someone like Stiverne might give us the answers.

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black panther wrote:

danamba7 wrote:
This.

He was clearly putting his hand up to let the ref know he was OK.

How about Bermaine Stiverne? That guy has a chin....I'd like to see it.

Steve Cunningham would be an easyish fight to make and he's still highly ranked, especially with the IBF.

Charles Martin is woeful: if Haye wants an easy route to a belt that's it.

Stiverne is a good shout.

If Haye is serious & wants a test, Stiverne would be a good bet.

We need to see what level Haye is operating at & someone like Stiverne might give us the answers.

He's probably on the slide after the Wilder beating - in his last fight he came in 20lbs overweight, was floored and scraped a close UD Derrick Rossy. The same Derrick Rossy who Audley Harrison dismissed in two rounds.

if marketing superfights like the old days i'd book out the weekend before Joshua's fight in April...and take on Dillian Whyte.

The most important thing for The Hayemaker is to stay busy. I'd like to see him in another bout in the spring time, and to be honest I don't see why he shouldn't be, De Mori offered him very little challenge and it wasn't much of a work out.

Against popular opinion, I don't think that Haye will be fighting British opponents. I could see him fighting someone like Steve Cunningham or Tony Thompson. Which I think he would overpower them handily enough. Then another bout in the summer time, following that - maybe an AJ fight toward the end of the year?