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Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 16:55
by SFW
Vlad didn't go after Fury because he was worried about getting chinned, nothing has changed that is still the case. He isn't confident in his chin, hence the tying up the hugging the jab & grab style too many people seem to celebrate. Fury will win again, hopefully he gets the knockout but he doesn't need it another wide decision is more likely
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 17:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
diddy wrote:Fury is +250 to win by Decision again. Someone please talk me out of dropping a missile on this? What is really going to change this time around? Fury is going to employ the same tactics, stay out of range on the outside and tie up on the inside. Fight is in the UK, I just dont see Wlad outboxing him by nearly enough to actually get a decision there. What am I missing?
Fury sucks, one 'missile' from Wlad and he could be face planted. Wlad is even more docile than he was in his prime. Fury could just go after him, already having won the title, and force a stoppage either way. If someone made me bet it, I'd take that bet. I'm neither watching or gambling on that one.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 20:51
by Freedom2013
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 22:05
by crusader
Unfortunetly I think the Klit is getting licked again......he's on the decline and Fury is a bad matchup for him.
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 06:24
by caldo2025
Baby Face Finster wrote:caldo2025 wrote:I'm getting sleepy just thinking about this fight. This fight should be the opposite of PPV and networks should pay anyone that takes the time out of their day to watch it. With that said, I'm sure that Wlad got back on the juice and took a couple cycles of some kind of PED so maybe he won't be a timid little bitch again and maybe try to get off at least some point in the fight.
The most important thing is for Boxing to just get this fight over with and be done with it. To have these 2 Jamokes fighting for our sports Lineal Heavyweight Championship is an absolute embarrassment to everyone who's ever been associated with it. Get it done and over with so guys like Joshua, Ortiz and Wilder can pick it up in a year or so and bring the sport back to some kind of normalcy and hopefully bring some excitement. Anything is better than what we've had for the last 8 years.
What we had for the last 8 years is a dominant champion who fought everyone. Sure it was boring at times but at least the
recognized champ didn't avoid anyone.
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead, he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 06:28
by BitPlayer
Someone drank too much coffee. Lol.
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 06:30
by BitPlayer
caldo2025 wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:caldo2025 wrote:I'm getting sleepy just thinking about this fight. This fight should be the opposite of PPV and networks should pay anyone that takes the time out of their day to watch it. With that said, I'm sure that Wlad got back on the juice and took a couple cycles of some kind of PED so maybe he won't be a timid little bitch again and maybe try to get off at least some point in the fight.
The most important thing is for Boxing to just get this fight over with and be done with it. To have these 2 Jamokes fighting for our sports Lineal Heavyweight Championship is an absolute embarrassment to everyone who's ever been associated with it. Get it done and over with so guys like Joshua, Ortiz and Wilder can pick it up in a year or so and bring the sport back to some kind of normalcy and hopefully bring some excitement. Anything is better than what we've had for the last 8 years.
What we had for the last 8 years is a dominant champion who fought everyone. Sure it was boring at times but at least the
recognized champ didn't avoid anyone.
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead,
he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
Who should he have fought that he didn't?
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 06:59
by Bard of Boxrec
caldo2025 wrote:
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead, he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
I agree he is not a great by any stretch but to be fair it was way more financially lucrative for him to fight in Europe than bother to build his profile in the US.
I could see Wlad landing something in their next bout as much as I can see the same fight unfolding as the first time. I wouldn't mind if Wlad won, I would quite like to see him get crushed by Joshua.
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 07:43
by caldo2025
Riddick Blowe wrote:caldo2025 wrote:
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead, he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
I agree he is not a great by any stretch but to be fair it was way more financially lucrative for him to fight in Europe than bother to build his profile in the US.
I could see Wlad landing something in their next bout as much as I can see the same fight unfolding as the first time. I wouldn't mind if Wlad won, I would quite like to see him get crushed by Joshua.
To not have a heavyweight title fight in Vegas or NY for 8 years is shameful IMO. After what Tyson, Lennox, Bowe and Evander did for the division, Wlad was a poor excuse to carry flame next. I think Vitali would have been ten times better as champion in every way. His style of boxing was way more exciting and he had an edge, some charisma.
My only hope is that if Wlad wins, he retires and let's the young kids get after it. Then Boxing would have to do a mini heavyweight tournament or some eliminator fights that could really stir up some buzz in the division with fans and get this division back on track. That would really do wonders for boxing.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 09:02
by Roars Like Me
Not used to seeing Wlad with a belly. Probably looked at Tyson and thought 'what's the point'

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 09:06
by Rexob
Roars Like Me wrote:Not used to seeing Wlad with a belly. Probably looked at Tyson and thought 'what's the point'

I heard he Wlad likes to swing both ways but what Fook is this kinky shit, he is doing?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 09:20
by Roars Like Me
Rexob wrote:Roars Like Me wrote:Not used to seeing Wlad with a belly. Probably looked at Tyson and thought 'what's the point'

I heard he Wlad likes to swing both ways but what Fook is this kinky poo, he is doing?
A cryosauna it's called - training in a hot sauna basically.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 09:26
by Rexob
Looks like some rave from the early 90's
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 09:41
by Roars Like Me
Rexob wrote:Looks like some rave from the early 90's
I'm glad you enjoyed the 90s' Rexob

Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 12:35
by SaadOffTheDeck
caldo2025 wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:caldo2025 wrote:
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead, he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
I agree he is not a great by any stretch but to be fair it was way more financially lucrative for him to fight in Europe than bother to build his profile in the US.
I could see Wlad landing something in their next bout as much as I can see the same fight unfolding as the first time. I wouldn't mind if Wlad won, I would quite like to see him get crushed by Joshua.
To not have a heavyweight title fight in Vegas or NY for 8 years is shameful IMO. After what Tyson, Lennox, Bowe and Evander did for the division, Wlad was a poor excuse to carry flame next. I think Vitali would have been ten times better as champion in every way. His style of boxing was way more exciting and he had an edge, some charisma.
My only hope is that if Wlad wins, he retires and let's the young kids get after it. Then Boxing would have to do a mini heavyweight tournament or some eliminator fights that could really stir up some buzz in the division with fans and get this division back on track. That would really do wonders for boxing.
Nobody in new York wanted to see him fight. I agree that he's the most overrated fighter of his era, but there was no reason for him to fight here and he never ducked anyone.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 21:46
by Wales
As a fan from North West of UK. Fill your boots on a Klitchko win by ko at 3/1. Easy money trust me.
Not feeling adventurous? Wald is evens to win. Evens. Double your money folks.
3/1 is giving money away .
Fury will not win this fight
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 21:53
by crusader
Wlad already failed to change his tactics when Fury was comfortably winning the first bout, and that makes me doubt his willingness to try something different the second time around.
Also, I wish me with a belly resembled what Wlad looks like when he's supposedly got one.
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 21:58
by Cutman Scabbers
caldo2025 wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:caldo2025 wrote:
You are crazy. For boxers that held the lineal heavyweight championship for any significant amount of time, he's the worst champion in and out of the ring in history. He's single handedly killed the division for years with his lack of charisma and personality and the fact that he chose to hijack the championship refusing to fight on American soil which is where the money is and the capitol of boxing. Instead, he opted to fight in the shadows against nobodies.
We had a champion that held the title for that many years and never had a PPV fight? I can't think of one he's had.
I agree he is not a great by any stretch but to be fair it was way more financially lucrative for him to fight in Europe than bother to build his profile in the US.
I could see Wlad landing something in their next bout as much as I can see the same fight unfolding as the first time. I wouldn't mind if Wlad won, I would quite like to see him get crushed by Joshua.
To not have a heavyweight title fight in Vegas or NY for 8 years is shameful IMO. After what Tyson, Lennox, Bowe and Evander did for the division, Wlad was a poor excuse to carry flame next. I think Vitali would have been ten times better as champion in every way. His style of boxing was way more exciting and he had an edge, some charisma.
My only hope is that if Wlad wins, he retires and let's the young kids get after it. Then Boxing would have to do a mini heavyweight tournament or some eliminator fights that could really stir up some buzz in the division with fans and get this division back on track. That would really do wonders for boxing.
No shame in staying at home if that's where the money and fan base is.
Re: Fury - Klit 2
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 22:12
by Wales
Cutman Scabbers wrote:caldo2025 wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:
I agree he is not a great by any stretch but to be fair it was way more financially lucrative for him to fight in Europe than bother to build his profile in the US.
I could see Wlad landing something in their next bout as much as I can see the same fight unfolding as the first time. I wouldn't mind if Wlad won, I would quite like to see him get crushed by Joshua.
To not have a heavyweight title fight in Vegas or NY for 8 years is shameful IMO. After what Tyson, Lennox, Bowe and Evander did for the division, Wlad was a poor excuse to carry flame next. I think Vitali would have been ten times better as champion in every way. His style of boxing was way more exciting and he had an edge, some charisma.
My only hope is that if Wlad wins, he retires and let's the young kids get after it. Then Boxing would have to do a mini heavyweight tournament or some eliminator fights that could really stir up some buzz in the division with fans and get this division back on track. That would really do wonders for boxing.
No shame in staying at home if that's where the money and fan base is.
Exactly. Arrogance of thinking it's shameful that a German promoted ukranian doesn't fight in Vegas lol
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 22:14
by Like a Boss
One of the hardest results to predict in recent times IMO.
Interesting that about 2/3 of the vote so far is for a stoppage result when the first bout went the distance.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 10:31
by amwsnw
Did someone say klit 3/1!!! I'll get on that.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 13:13
by gregor
Difficult to predict... Fury was not really good in the first fight, he just had proper gameplan, and Klitschko did not.
Now Wlad had more than enough time to "digest" that his usual strategy that worked perfectly against shorter opponents gives him no chance with Fury... he can either take the risk and press Fury, or safely lose another time.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 14:45
by jamesmcdonnell
Roars Like Me wrote:Rexob wrote:Roars Like Me wrote:Not used to seeing Wlad with a belly. Probably looked at Tyson and thought 'what's the point'

I heard he Wlad likes to swing both ways but what Fook is this kinky poo, he is doing?
A cryosauna it's called - training in a hot sauna basically.
A cryosauna would be a cold chamber, not a hot one. It's probably cryotherapy.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 16:58
by greg
crusader wrote:Wlad already failed to change his tactics when Fury was comfortably winning the first bout, and that makes me doubt his willingness to try something different the second time around.
Also, I wish me with a belly resembled what Wlad looks like when he's supposedly got one.
...I guess he didn't expect Fury to be as fast and effective as he was and wasn't prepared to spontaneously readjust...I'll give him the benefit of the doubt considering he's got half a year to get ready...
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko II
Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 17:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
His adjustment isn't that vast, he needs to punch a wide open target.