Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward: who will you be rooting for?

Who will you be rooting for?

Poll ended at 29 Oct 2017, 03:40

Kovalev
76
56%
Ward
34
25%
Neither, just hope to see a good fight
24
18%
I'm not interested in this one
1
1%
 
Total votes: 135

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Post by greg »

..doesn't matter to me that much, I'd like to see an exciting match just like many of us..I can't help feeling that Kovalev is on the rise, while Ward has seen better times...hope it takes place outside of Ward's backyard, for a CHANGE...
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greg wrote:..doesn't matter to me that much, I'd like to see an exciting match just like many of us..I can't help feeling that Kovalev is on the rise, while Ward has seen better times...hope it takes place outside of Ward's backyard, for a CHANGE...

Roc Nation and Main events have booked the T Mobile arena in Vegas together for Nov 19th.

Signs are looking good this is happening.
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Naandrew wrote:
greg wrote:..doesn't matter to me that much, I'd like to see an exciting match just like many of us..I can't help feeling that Kovalev is on the rise, while Ward has seen better times...hope it takes place outside of Ward's backyard, for a CHANGE...

Roc Nation and Main events have booked the T Mobile arena in Vegas together for Nov 19th.

Signs are looking good this is happening.
... :TU: good news
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Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward: who will you be rooting for?

Post by diddy »

Tarkus wrote:1. Activity: Kovalev
Kova - 8 fights in 3.5 years
Ward - 4 fights in 5 year
Even after the death of his evil promoter Ward stays inactive.

2. Style: Kovalev
Kova - KO 87%, entertainment value 10/10
Ward - KO 52%, entertainment value 8/10

3. Character: Kovalev
Kova wants to fight the best, unify, no BS.
Ward fighting weight drained Dawson, fat Pal Smith and is crying about lilG coming up and fight him in his division.

KOVALEV!
Ward is about to step in there with Kovalev and you're harping on his previous fights as if they're bums. Dude fought Froch and Kessler, the 2nd and 3rd best super middleweights of the last 10 years besides Calzaghe. Enough with the bias. If you want to root for Kovalev - fine but don't act like Ward has fought stiffs. And now Ward is fighting Kovalev yet Kovalev is the one who wants to fight the best? Did Ward not fight the best at 168? Is Kovalev not the best at 175?
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thunderfromdownunder wrote:Can't wait for this, leaning toward kovalev. Interested to see the odds on this one
Ward was -160 back on in December before the books pulled it.
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lefty wrote:The size difference is interesting to me because Kovalev is obviously the naturally the bigger man but I always remember Froch who was physically strong himself saying he was shocked at how strong ward was in the clinches. He said there wasn't much on his punches but that he was a strong bastard. Intetesting to see how that dynamic plays out at the weight class above.
Froch has said time and again Ward was not only the best fighter he ever fought (duh) but also the strongest man in close quarters. Said Ward is a demoralizing guy to face with his smarts, defensive skills, movement, hand speed but when combined with brute strength in clinches he is a brutally tough opponent. I'm guessing this will be what surprises Kovalev more than anything. Ward's ability to muck a fight up on the inside - and be a moving target on the outside.

These are 2 of my favorite fighters. Ward because he's a great guy, and Kovalev because he's a killer. Hoping for a great fight.
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There will be alot of excuses when Ward beats Kovalev and makes him look ordinary. That is when, not if.. Ward isn't scared of Kovalev, as a matter of fact he's looking forward to that fight.

It will be another one of those anti climatic fights where Ward shows that hes simply on a different level technically. There won't be hardly any drama in the fight, Ward will neutralize Kova by getting inside and working the clinch and have the more clean work from the outside. Clear 10 round to 2 type fight for Ward..
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Afterwards everyone will claim that if you watch the fight in slow motion, in black and white, with your TV upside down on your roof that Kovalev actually won the fight. :D
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Kalan wrote:Ward has never faced anyone with an outstanding jab or outstanding power... I don't think he'll handle either very well.

Don't tell me Chad Dawson because Jean Pascal beat Dawson way before Ward ever beat a weight drained version of him... And don't tell me Carl Froch, because if Froch ever agreed to face Gennady Golovkin (he wouldn't fight GGG in his dreams) he would have been knocked cold. I like Froch, but the man was slow. He was a good puncher, but certainly not a great puncher. He was Ward's top opponent in terms of ability and accomplishments. I don't see anybody real good who Kovalev has beaten either: Pascal, Sallikh, Campillo, were never big hitters or super outstanding boxers. Hopkins was older than dirt. So I think Kovalev-Ward will be their legacy fight. I think Ward is having trouble coming to terms with the task of fighting Kovalev. He wanted Golovkin to come up and fight him without an acclimation fight.. He wanted 3 acclimation fights to meet Kovalev, but doesn't know exactly who he's going to fight next.. Until Kovalev vs Ward is signed, I look at it as I looked at all of Golovkin's potential opponents in recent years, especially Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo... They each had the Lineal Title and all said they were going to fight their mandatory Golovkin, but they were all talking out their asses.
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Kalan wrote:Ward has never faced anyone with an outstanding jab or outstanding power... I don't think he'll handle either very well.

Don't tell me Chad Dawson because Jean Pascal beat Dawson way before Ward ever beat a weight drained version of him... And don't tell me Carl Froch, because if Froch ever agreed to face Gennady Golovkin (he wouldn't fight GGG in his dreams) he would have been knocked cold. I like Froch, but the man was slow. He was a good puncher, but certainly not a great puncher. He was Ward's top opponent in terms of ability and accomplishments. I don't see anybody real good who Kovalev has beaten either: Pascal, Sallikh, Campillo, were never big hitters or super outstanding boxers. Hopkins was older than dirt. So I think Kovalev-Ward will be their legacy fight. I think Ward is having trouble coming to terms with the task of fighting Kovalev. He wanted Golovkin to come up and fight him without an acclimation fight.. He wanted 3 acclimation fights to meet Kovalev, but doesn't know exactly who he's going to fight next.. Until Kovalev vs Ward is signed, I look at it as I looked at all of Golovkin's potential opponents in recent years, especially Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo... They each had the Lineal Title and all said they were going to fight their mandatory Golovkin, but they were all talking out their asses.
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NateJR wrote:There will be alot of excuses when Ward beats Kovalev and makes him look ordinary. That is when, not if.. Ward isn't scared of Kovalev, as a matter of fact he's looking forward to that fight.

It will be another one of those anti climatic fights where Ward shows that hes simply on a different level technically. There won't be hardly any drama in the fight, Ward will neutralize Kova by getting inside and working the clinch and have the more clean work from the outside. Clear 10 round to 2 type fight for Ward..
Ward is on a different level - a level lower. Kovalev by Krushing
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NateJR wrote:Afterwards everyone will claim that if you watch the fight in slow motion, in black and white, with your TV upside down on your roof that Kovalev actually won the fight. :D
...I've never thought of that, thanks for a tip :TU:..seriously though, if it's a fair fight, fair officiating, etc..complaining will be just the usual lot...
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Kov by KO 9 times out 10.
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Ricky_ wrote:Kov by KO 9 times out 10.
Do you actually believe this ? If so I'd like to place a bet. The loser cuts off his left testicle on YouTube and you have to place this quote in the description box so I know it's you.
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Sergey Kovalev all the way, best fighter i have seen in years
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Kalan wrote:Ward has never faced anyone with an outstanding jab or outstanding power... I don't think he'll handle either very well.

Don't tell me Chad Dawson because Jean Pascal beat Dawson way before Ward ever beat a weight drained version of him... And don't tell me Carl Froch, because if Froch ever agreed to face Gennady Golovkin (he wouldn't fight GGG in his dreams) he would have been knocked cold. I like Froch, but the man was slow. He was a good puncher, but certainly not a great puncher. He was Ward's top opponent in terms of ability and accomplishments. I don't see anybody real good who Kovalev has beaten either: Pascal, Sallikh, Campillo, were never big hitters or super outstanding boxers. Hopkins was older than dirt. So I think Kovalev-Ward will be their legacy fight. I think Ward is having trouble coming to terms with the task of fighting Kovalev. He wanted Golovkin to come up and fight him without an acclimation fight.. He wanted 3 acclimation fights to meet Kovalev, but doesn't know exactly who he's going to fight next.. Until Kovalev vs Ward is signed, I look at it as I looked at all of Golovkin's potential opponents in recent years, especially Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo... They each had the Lineal Title and all said they were going to fight their mandatory Golovkin, but they were all talking out their asses.

The anti-American bias from you fools seaps out of your pores. What's it like to have so much hate in your heart? Something I can never relate to. That somebody would try to pick apart either of these particular fighters is f'n ridiculous. These are 2 of the 3 best P4P fighters on the planet.
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Ward is going to win this one with ease. He will make Kovalev fight his fright and dominate the fight at his pace. I actually see Ward stopping him.
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diddy wrote:
Kalan wrote:Ward has never faced anyone with an outstanding jab or outstanding power... I don't think he'll handle either very well.

Don't tell me Chad Dawson because Jean Pascal beat Dawson way before Ward ever beat a weight drained version of him... And don't tell me Carl Froch, because if Froch ever agreed to face Gennady Golovkin (he wouldn't fight GGG in his dreams) he would have been knocked cold. I like Froch, but the man was slow. He was a good puncher, but certainly not a great puncher. He was Ward's top opponent in terms of ability and accomplishments. I don't see anybody real good who Kovalev has beaten either: Pascal, Sallikh, Campillo, were never big hitters or super outstanding boxers. Hopkins was older than dirt. So I think Kovalev-Ward will be their legacy fight. I think Ward is having trouble coming to terms with the task of fighting Kovalev. He wanted Golovkin to come up and fight him without an acclimation fight.. He wanted 3 acclimation fights to meet Kovalev, but doesn't know exactly who he's going to fight next.. Until Kovalev vs Ward is signed, I look at it as I looked at all of Golovkin's potential opponents in recent years, especially Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo... They each had the Lineal Title and all said they were going to fight their mandatory Golovkin, but they were all talking out their asses.

The anti-American bias from you fools seaps out of your pores. What's it like to have so much hate in your heart? Something I can never relate to. That somebody would try to pick apart either of these particular fighters is f'n ridiculous. These are 2 of the 3 best P4P fighters on the planet.
i forgot ward was even an american
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This will be an easy win for Ward. He`s too skillful, too clever, too good.
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I'll be rooting for the referee. :TU:
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I can barely understand the argument for picking ward full stop, but anyone who thinks it will be easy for ward doesn't understand boxing.
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NateJR wrote:There will be alot of excuses when Ward beats Kovalev and makes him look ordinary. That is when, not if.. Ward isn't scared of Kovalev, as a matter of fact he's looking forward to that fight.

It will be another one of those anti climatic fights where Ward shows that hes simply on a different level technically. There won't be hardly any drama in the fight, Ward will neutralize Kova by getting inside and working the clinch and have the more clean work from the outside. Clear 10 round to 2 type fight for Ward..
Do you type your posts about Ward with just one hand?
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Riddick Blowe wrote:I can barely understand the argument for picking ward full stop, but anyone who thinks it will be easy for ward doesn't understand boxing.
Anyone who thinks it will be easy for either guy is being silly. It's -110 aside for a reason.
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Post by Boxerbeetle »

I've always maintained Ward has the style and ability to beat Kovalev, and I'm sticking with it. Ward to win on points, possibly even a late stoppage as I feel Kovalev is quite fragile.

But I'll be rooting for Kovalev all the way, great fighter to watch :bag:
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diddy wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I can barely understand the argument for picking ward full stop, but anyone who thinks it will be easy for ward doesn't understand boxing.
Anyone who thinks it will be easy for either guy is being silly. It's -110 aside for a reason.
There is a lot more credibility in the argument that Kovalev will outgun and stop Ward in a relatively straightforward manner than the argument for Ward winning convincingly IMO.

Kovalev will be pressing the action here. He has the artillery, the power, the workrate, the ring generalship to ensure he bosses the fight. Sergey is providing the problem. It will be on Ward to negate that offensive threat. In my view he doesn't have the constitution, the power or the workrate to get it done. Tying a guy up on the inside doesn't win him the fight. Landing single shots doesn't win him the fight. Ward doesn't throw enough combos and he will throw less when he has to be worried about what's coming back.

I don't see anything in Ward's performance vs Smith or Barrera to suggest he can keep Kovalev off for 12 rounds, let alone land enough to outpoint him at the same time. For Ward, it's survival mode and lose widely on the cards or go for broke and get knocked out.

With this fight I think a lot of people are seduced by the good ol' 'If in doubt, pick the boxer over the puncher' approach without actually thinking about this boxer's exact path to victory or even giving credit where it is due to the boxing skills of the supposed 'just a puncher'.
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