Shots fired at Dublin weigh in

[TheLeprechaun]

What is macklins role in this? did Mackin knowingly get involved with these criminals? It seems like his name is what legitimizes the mgm outfit? Can anyone explain?

Macklin is the licensed promoter and manager, he's the face of the operation and the gym is named after him. In reality Daniel Kinahan appears to be in charge and providing the financial backing. Serious questions have to be asked of Macklin in all of this.

That's what I was getting at - how has macklins dodged criticism over his association with big time criminals? Is it fair to say they wouldn't be involved in boxing at this level if not for macklin? If so then it's pretty shocking on macklins part. Imagine a stray bullet had hit that little kid for example. Or if Jamie Moore had been killed. Why on earth did broadcasters get involved with mgm if the guys behind it are big time gangsters? I imagine this whole thing today has made absolutely massive headlines in ireland

[watsupdoc87]

One of the boxers out there had his dad killed the out there last year, the dad was a notorious man.

Jamie Kavanaghs da was murdered by the same people that promote him, the kinnehans, who run mgm stable. he still gets promoted by them

[palooka]

How much sponsorship money do IFL get from that gym? Should they reconsider their choice? Maybe they think it gives them street cred? Maybe it does?

Maybe it does, Sklar - some of the people over there are certainly living the 'crime does pay' lifestyle with beautiful villas, powerful cars and a leisurely life. The people that achieve that are looked up to, regardless of how they get there.

[palooka]

One of the boxers out there had his dad killed the out there last year, the dad was a notorious man.

Jamie Kavanaghs da was murdered by the same people that promote him, the kinnehans, who run mgm stable. he still gets promoted by them

He might not dare jump ship?

[Sklar]

How much sponsorship money do IFL get from that gym? Should they reconsider their choice? Maybe they think it gives them street cred? Maybe it does?

Maybe it does, Sklar - some of the people over there are certainly living the 'crime does pay' lifestyle with beautiful villas, powerful cars and a leisurely life. The people that achieve that are looked up to, regardless of how they get there.

James will certainly have had it brought home to him today what it means to mix in such company. Hope he's not too shook up or worse. Bet the Gardai have seized his footage.

[watsupdoc87]

One of the boxers out there had his dad killed the out there last year, the dad was a notorious man.

Jamie Kavanaghs da was murdered by the same people that promote him, the kinnehans, who run mgm stable. he still gets promoted by them

He might not dare jump ship?

happened moths ago, they shot his uncle aswell recently i believe, cant remember if he survived. from wat i know he doesnt believe they had his da murdered, his da worked for the kinnehans in spain for years, jamie spent alot of time there aswll. looks to be in denial, because he was close to his da who also trained him

[Exoddus]

I'm surprised there wasn't any security (police) with the well known rumors of an attack planned at a boxing event in Dublin months ago.

[ShadrachSimmo]

from the scene

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Newark-bo ... story.html

I bet everyone thought it was ISIS nobbers doing another Paris style attack at first, fcuking scary.

That was my initial thought. Arseholes.

[Sklar]

I'm surprised there wasn't any security (police) with the well known rumors of an attack planned at a boxing event in Dublin months ago.

The gunmen were apparantly wearing Garda ERU (Emergency Response Unit) uniform. If they were forthright enough on the door about the requirement to enter the building, almost all 'ordinary' police officers / security would wave them through. When you're used to taking orders you do tend to do what your told. Who wants to be the guy who tries to prevent the ERU from getting to an emergency?

[palooka]

I'm surprised there wasn't any security (police) with the well known rumors of an attack planned at a boxing event in Dublin months ago.

The gunmen were apparantly wearing Garda ERU (Emergency Response Unit) uniform. If they were forthright enough on the door about the requirement to enter the building, almost all 'ordinary' police officers / security would wave them through. When you're used to taking orders you do tend to do what your told. Who wants to be the guy who tries to prevent the ERU from getting to an emergency?

Wouldn't the AK47's have given it away? Surely ERU don't use those?

[Sklar]

I'm surprised there wasn't any security (police) with the well known rumors of an attack planned at a boxing event in Dublin months ago.

The gunmen were apparantly wearing Garda ERU (Emergency Response Unit) uniform. If they were forthright enough on the door about the requirement to enter the building, almost all 'ordinary' police officers / security would wave them through. When you're used to taking orders you do tend to do what your told. Who wants to be the guy who tries to prevent the ERU from getting to an emergency?

Wouldn't the AK47's have given it away? Surely ERU don't use those?

Unless you are extremely well trained and experienced, and often even then, people see what they want to see in situations like that. I remember being at a debrief after an incident where every person in the room gave a different account of the number of shots fired. It ranged from something like 15 to 45.

[watsupdoc87]

ERU are pretty much always armed with semi automatic weapons

[Stevieb8006]

Video of it kicking off here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5rDDvVJwU

Thats fornicating horrible. The fear in that young girls voice. "Daddy help me". Scarey shit

[moorser]

These gangs are running a muck in Dublin that's 3 shot dead in a month only two weeks ago a man was shot dead and chopped up and dumped in a canal in Dublin. Fuckers need the death penalty too many innocent people getting caught up in it.

[palooka]

It looks like they're bumping each other off though there was a real risk of innocent bystanders getting hurt today. It might warn some people off going into that line of work.

[mickey1975]

once again i love to see how blatantly accusatory the Irish papers are where their gangsters are concerned.

I reckon there'll be a picture of you in them on Sunday under the heading "Forum Personality Threatened In Gang War".

[lillywhite14]

Didn't the IRA keep these people in check years ago?

[moorser]

Didn't the IRA keep these people in check years ago?

IRA are gone mate the Real IRA tried to tax gangsters a few years back and killed a few gangsters and then the Dublin gangs took a few of then out and done the top man Alan Ryan and that was that .


http://m.herald.ie/news/how-alan-ryan-s ... 12922.html

[watsupdoc87]

Didn't the IRA keep these people in check years ago?

IRA are gone mate the Real IRA tried to tax gangsters a few years back and killed a few gangsters and then the Dublin gangs took a few of then out and done the top man Alan Ryan and that was that .

mate, you dont know what your talking about, seriously

[johnswan1]

Didn't the IRA keep these people in check years ago?

IRA are gone mate the Real IRA tried to tax gangsters a few years back and killed a few gangsters and then the Dublin gangs took a few of then out and done the top man Alan Ryan and that was that .

mate, you dont know what your talking about, seriously

What is the truth? I remember when Ryan got done everybody thought his gang was going to get revenge, and I never heard a peep after that.

[lefty]

Any indication as to whether those hit were specifically targeted, or if this was just a coked-up spray job targeting the promotion in general?

I've read it was targeted. The reason being that one of the shooters apparantly was shouting as shoppers and people in the venue generally to get out of the way so they wern't hit.

[johnswan1]

Any indication as to whether those hit were specifically targeted, or if this was just a coked-up spray job targeting the promotion in general?

I've read it was targeted. The reason being that one of the shooters apparantly was shouting as shoppers and people in the venue generally to get out of the way so they wern't hit.

Of course it was targeted. Look at who the victims were. Also, the garda investigation for killing an innocent is completely different to the investigation for one gang member taking out another.

[lefty]

What is macklins role in this? did Mackin knowingly get involved with these criminals? It seems like his name is what legitimizes the mgm outfit? Can anyone explain?

Macklin is the licensed promoter and manager, he's the face of the operation and the gym is named after him. In reality Daniel Kinahan appears to be in charge and providing the financial backing. Serious questions have to be asked of Macklin in all of this.

That's what I was getting at - how has macklins dodged criticism over his association with big time criminals? Is it fair to say they wouldn't be involved in boxing at this level if not for macklin? If so then it's pretty shocking on macklins part. Imagine a stray bullet had hit that little kid for example. Or if Jamie Moore had been killed. Why on earth did broadcasters get involved with mgm if the guys behind it are big time gangsters? I imagine this whole thing today has made absolutely massive headlines in ireland

I'm guessing there's a lot of writers (guys on here who are well known even) that wouldnt want to touch that story with a barge pole because they quite understandly wouldnt want a bullet between the eyes possibly.

[Counter-puncher]

Didn't the IRA keep these people in check years ago?

IRA are gone mate the Real IRA tried to tax gangsters a few years back and killed a few gangsters and then the Dublin gangs took a few of then out and done the top man Alan Ryan and that was that .

mate, you dont know what your talking about, seriously

Doing a grand job of refuting any claims you're a plastic wannabe gangster here, fella

[Counter-puncher]

once again i love to see how blatantly accusatory the Irish papers are where their gangsters are concerned.

I reckon there'll be a picture of you in them on Sunday under the heading "Forum Personality Threatened In Gang War".

"I AM one of the faces!"