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Deadendgeneration wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:Fvck Alvarez.

Why??

He represents a number of problems in boxing.

Catchweights
Top fighters being avoided
Fighting smaller fighters / massive weight cuts

Not the biggest problems for me,' but they're problems in boxing.

Ok so the that means

Fvck Mayweather
Fvck Pacquiao
Fvck GGG
Fvck Kovalev

And most other top prize fighters according to you

Kovalev, Pac, Ward, Gennady Golovikin** & Saul Alvarez the Top-5 mega- stars on now! ** "problem"/guy unwisely holds IBO garbage. I draw the LINE after the WBC WBA IBF WBO. My work of the UWBCAFO-I "making a way" for second echelon. [We have a FIVE USA STATES VALUE there WBU WBF IBC NBA WBB IBO all -eligible-]

the main problem is now more obvious than ever and no it is not haymon or hbo etc......it the fighters/manager themselves. walthers turns down 500000 to fight loma. santa cruz or frampton want no part of rigo. canelo wants nothing from ggg. the boxers are the problem, they are saying no at the end.

I think it's undoubtedly the fighters. Anyone who has even an inkling that they are some kind of draw, generally wants ridiculous money to take on an opponent who is a genuine risk.

The problem is multiple sanctioning bodies and no fair system of eliminators or reward for results. Wrong fighters get rewarded title shots because of promotional favours, options and TV companies. The problem is deeply rooted to the TVs, Promoters not wanting to give up a title without an option on the next man.

The only sanctioning body that are actually fair are the IBO.

haymon 50% 50% [ 25 ]

Yes because before Haymon everything was absolutely perfect.

kidbazooka1 wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote: He represents a number of problems in boxing.

Catchweights
Top fighters being avoided
Fighting smaller fighters / massive weight cuts

Not the biggest problems for me,' but they're problems in boxing.

Ok so the that means

Fvck Mayweather
Fvck Pacquiao
Fvck GGG
Fvck Kovalev

And most other top prize fighters according to you

Neither GGG or Kov are big drainers and neither has fought at a catchweight as far as I know.

They are the top fighters in their respective classes, so they can hardly be avoiding the top.

Lennox wrote:The problem is multiple sanctioning bodies and no fair system of eliminators or reward for results. Wrong fighters get rewarded title shots because of promotional favours, options and TV companies. The problem is deeply rooted to the TVs, Promoters not wanting to give up a title without an option on the next man.

The only sanctioning body that are actually fair are the IBO.

Of course! You are ex employee 15 years! MY PAST ARGUMENTS w/you Lennox I out dueled you utterly and completely. And....all you had to say only SUPPORTED the continued drain ("deluting") OF THE SPORT!
IBO is "Number one cancer". WBC WBA +IBF next..+WBO -STOP ALREADY-
I don't accept any "IBO". I give them "option" to register as a Second echelon entity. They won't.
It's an overcrowded field already. NO NEED FOR FOUR GROUPS. WHY MAKE 4 into 5?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think it's undoubtedly the fighters. Anyone who has even an inkling that they are some kind of draw, generally wants ridiculous money to take on an opponent who is a genuine risk.

Are you a promoter? What are YOU paying your fighters? Could you at least take that line to *nitty gritty please! : )
[I'm making a boxing comeback, it can be helpful info to me! Me vs Charlie Z. do you think it is excessive me "looking out" for (CZ) and insuring he take $1,500.00 purse for 4 r (147, yeah?)]

It's funny that the vast majority of people here are blaming Haymon when nearly all the fighters are assigned to him, apparently they (the Fighters) are trusting of him and do not feel they're being shafted, so why is it that you guys think he's the problem?

Haymon has been giving us really decent fights lately for free, the bouts have been entertaining in a time when people are saying stupid stuff like "boxing is dead".

Meanwhile Arum is given another pass as he puts together a fight no one wants to see in Packy vs Bradley, any farce that makes Bob money he will put together but cares nothing about doing business with Haymon because he knows he will not get the lion's share.

The #1 problem is greed and that's in just about most/if not all the promoters.

^ No one can CALL BOXING quite as I do. The post one back (49-0) I.....don't agree as far as calling Arum out for making Bradley vs Pacquiao. I THOUGHT....PAC vs Broner would of been THE BETTER DANDY-LION FOR A PROMO! BUT...with how this turned out [PAC "win" in LAST FIGHT; "supurb contest....."] it REALLY seem to be "winner".
Bob Arum is good for the SPORT. He "keeps talking" & it is interesting!
Al Haymon > TO ME < is someone "mysterious". I never see him ON FILM ETC! All I know is "his shadow", and that is, that he becomes "major shaker" in the boxing world in modern hours.
[by the way, IS HE ON BOXREC FORUM????/ Is Evander Holyfield?]
[is John Ruiz here????????????]
No.1 "solveable problem" in BOXING present hour is MORE THAN OBVIOUS! & I address it completely with my UWBCAFO-I.