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Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 15:58
by punchoutsb
TheBeast wrote:I like the win. I thought he had a shot due to Zimnoch being vulnerable to bullying and being down before... but i have to say i expected Zimnoch to survive the early onslaught... Then usually Mollo drops his work rate considerably and i thought Zimnoch's distance punching would've won it. I expected Zimnoch to land his good counter uppercut on an easy to time and squared up Mollo.
It's a bad loss for Zimnoch but showed his weaknesses to the mass.
It's a very good win for Mollo as he will get more paydays in Poland vs other heavies and might get more paydays worldwide too. I don't think it hurts Mollo since he is a beatable fighter... If you can jab and move... punch from distance and have durability, you can beat Mollo. I know lots of heavyweight prospects that could get that scalp pretty easily
Another great analysis. Mollo always makes it a scrap. I really thought he would drop Zimnoch early, but the win surprised me. Now that he's "Polish champ", any chance he get's Adamek next if (when) Goral beats Molina?
x2x wrote:punchoutsb wrote:TheBeast wrote:Guys... not worth it... we clearly have someone here who is in to stir crap a little... let it go... everyone is seeing it
I actually blocked him already. What did you think of Mollo in this fight? Do you think this hurts his stock as an opponent?
Sure does - but it also raises his stock as a contender! MM has reinvented himself. Like I said before, I can see this new bigger and stronger MM beating one of the pseudo heavyweight champs, even at this late date after 16 years boxing, like Wilder for instance.
He'd push Wilder harder earlier than he's ever been pushed, but I just can't see him winning that fight. I'd love to see him get a shot though. He's a tough guy, had some bloody fights and deserves a good payday at the end of his career.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 17:00
by Ilya Muromets
punchoutsb wrote:
He'd push Wilder harder earlier than he's ever been pushed, but I just can't see him winning that fight. I'd love to see him get a shot though. He's a tough guy, had some bloody fights and deserves a good payday at the end of his career.
He's a nice guy too. A friend of the Marciano family by the way. Between 2010 and 2016 he only fought twice. Don't know why. I can see him rushing in and KO'g Wilder just like he did the Polish feller - who I'm told beat Wilder in the amateurs.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 17:12
by asdfjkl
Whole Poland already knew this guy wouldn't be a serious top contender, he's quite old already and doesn't have the top contender body.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 17:49
by punchoutsb
x2x wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
He'd push Wilder harder earlier than he's ever been pushed, but I just can't see him winning that fight. I'd love to see him get a shot though. He's a tough guy, had some bloody fights and deserves a good payday at the end of his career.
He's a nice guy too. A friend of the Marciano family by the way. Between 2010 and 2016 he only fought twice. Don't know why. I can see him rushing in and KO'g Wilder just like he did the Polish feller - who I'm told beat Wilder in the amateurs.
I'm not surprised he's friend with the Rock's family. He's just a real throwback to the blue collar fighter that gets in and grinds away. He's no world beater, but boxing is such an unforgiving sport and I love to see guys like him rewarded. Vinny Maddalone was another of that mold.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 18:57
by Lancenix
asdfjkl wrote:Whole Poland already knew this guy wouldn't be a serious top contender, he's quite old already and doesn't have the top contender body.
That does not matter to these guys on here. An American won and it is one of the greatest victories of 2016!! No of all time!!@
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 23 Feb 2016, 21:41
by Ilya Muromets
asdfjkl wrote:Whole Poland already knew this guy wouldn't be a serious top contender, he's quite old already and doesn't have the top contender body.
None of that is true.
Here is Zimnoch KO'ing Deontay Wilder in 2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmKjiH3SQF0
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 24 Feb 2016, 14:34
by asdfjkl
x2x wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Whole Poland already knew this guy wouldn't be a serious top contender, he's quite old already and doesn't have the top contender body.
None of that is true.
Here is Zimnoch KO'ing Deontay Wilder in 2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmKjiH3SQF0
That's allmost a decade ago? I saw Zimnoch as the Charles Martin of Poland.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 24 Feb 2016, 14:42
by crusader
Zimnoch beat Wilder 23-20 in the 2007 World Championships (I believe it was Wilder's first international fight). He's looked mediocre as a pro though and I'm not too surprised he got upset.
The guy who knocked out Wilder is Evgenyi Romanov, who never turned pro.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 24 Feb 2016, 18:43
by Lancenix
crusader wrote:Zimnoch beat Wilder 23-20 in the 2007 World Championships (I believe it was Wilder's first international fight). He's looked mediocre as a pro though and I'm not too surprised he got upset.
The guy who knocked out Wilder is Evgenyi Romanov, who never turned pro.
Yep right on man.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 24 Feb 2016, 19:44
by funso banjo baby
ridiculous fight.
both boxers were semi retired. zimnoch is utterly inept.
very dull
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 20:14
by Ilya Muromets
crusader wrote:Zimnoch beat Wilder 23-20 in the 2007 World Championships (I believe it was Wilder's first international fight). He's looked mediocre as a pro though and I'm not too surprised he got upset.
The guy who knocked out Wilder is Evgenyi Romanov, who never turned pro.
I think you picked that up from one of the comments under the video. The video itself has no info. I'm unclear on this. Here it says Zimnoch beat Wilder in the first round:
"Undefeated Zimnoch getting ready for underground boxing
By Przemek Garczarczyk
Krzysztof Zimnoch (16-0, 11 KOs), who arrived on the professional scene after beating Deontay Wilder in the first round of the Amateur Wold Championships in Chicago..."
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/undefea ... ing-227909
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 20:52
by crusader
Zimnoch beat Wilder 23-20 in the opening round of the 2007 World Championships, not the opening round of the bout. The clip you posted is an extract from Wilder's stoppage loss to Russian Evgeniy Romanov, which can be seen in full below (notice that the Russian flag appears several times).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOqhhylGWh8
The fight with Romanov took place at a USA-Russia dual and you can watch a video summary of the event by clicking on the following link (at 1:35 there is footage of Sergey Kovalev dropping an American):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO5bVPP-uw
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 23:23
by Ilya Muromets
Crusader - Yeah I was confusing "the opening round" with "round 1" of a fight, plus that unlabeled
video. Thanks for the info. I stand corrected.
Re: Heavyweight Mollo upset Prospect Zimnoch Saturday
Posted: 27 Feb 2016, 14:55
by Ilya Muromets