Browne beats Chagaev winning WBA title - our 1st ever heavyweight champ!

[Brute]

He ain't the heavyweight champion. Its bullshit, it pisses me off that there's 4 belts WBA, IBF, WBC and WBO! But you can't have two WBA's. Why not another one then? Let's have 3 WBA champions, eff it let's have 2 WBO champs as well. If Lucas Browne is a heavyweight champion of the world so am I...... What a crock of poo.

Run along, Sonny. Go tell your Mummy she wants you. How much did you have on Chagaev?

[campfire]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll...... But I'm not a fool, WBA champion, he's not even the best heavyweight in Australasia, he beat an overrated chubby over the hill guy and becomes 'world champion' the WBA will have another belt in a couple weeks maybe #20 and #25 can fight for it, become 'world champion'. Like I said what a crock of poo.

Stop being a party pooper I know the truth you know the truth you'll get called all sorts of names like cockhead and Mr Editor will not give a fornicate ..........I love Boxing especially when its kept real.

[Like a Boss]

a Few Questions for the Aussies, was the fight well publicised over there ? what were viewing figures like ? was it big news when he won ?

It didn't receive the publicity it should have.

The day after the fight our daily newspaper carried a small article that didn't even include a picture. Today's daily has a bigger article with two pictures.

It has received some TV news coverage though.

[magwitch]

what a total flat tyre this piece of shite is!? The last time this turd posted regularly on here the forum dropped of, piss of Tsmithy, you cockhead, or at least have the guts to reveal your true identity.

Are you at your old games again my old chum?


Congratulations to Browne and well done Australia, enjoy your victory

For what it's worth, I think 4 belts is absolutely fine. It helps that's it's been that way since I followed the sport but, in a solo sport like boxing - with all of its risks and the low rewards for the 99.9% it makes absolute sense to have several versions.

Look what happens when a super-champ exists, like Floyd Mayweather. Under the one belt system anyone born between about 1980 and 1990 might as well just forget it. How is that fair?

So the heavyweight scene was better in the 80s before Tyson went along and ruined it all by unifying belts? Likewise Hopkins at middleweight in the 2000s?

Yes but presumably Tyson was putting them on the line in each fight....I don't know. You get stripped these days if you don't defend the belt. Not sure of the timescales..... How about if a 'unified' champion, like Tyson, gets beat - does that make his opponent the "unified" champion?

Multiple belts is a good thing. It may not apply particularly to the heavyweight scene but other weights are and have always been rich in quality opponents - therefore it's possible to have more than one legitimate World Champion at the weight at the same time.......look at names like Cotto Moseley Forrest Oscar De La Hoya etc etc etc ... could go on all day. One belt is not enough and it doesn't give the protagonists an adequate opportunity to make a decent living in what is a dangerous business!

[Like a Boss]

Are you at your old games again my old chum?


Congratulations to Browne and well done Australia, enjoy your victory

For what it's worth, I think 4 belts is absolutely fine. It helps that's it's been that way since I followed the sport but, in a solo sport like boxing - with all of its risks and the low rewards for the 99.9% it makes absolute sense to have several versions.

Look what happens when a super-champ exists, like Floyd Mayweather. Under the one belt system anyone born between about 1980 and 1990 might as well just forget it. How is that fair?

So the heavyweight scene was better in the 80s before Tyson went along and ruined it all by unifying belts? Likewise Hopkins at middleweight in the 2000s?

Yes but presumably Tyson was putting them on the line in each fight....I don't know. You get stripped these days if you don't defend the belt. Not sure of the timescales..... How about if a 'unified' champion, like Tyson, gets beat - does that make his opponent the "unified" champion?

Multiple belts is a good thing. It may not apply particularly to the heavyweight scene but other weights are and have always been rich in quality opponents - therefore it's possible to have more than one legitimate World Champion at the weight at the same time.......look at names like Cotto Moseley Forrest Oscar De La Hoya etc etc etc ... could go on all day. One belt is not enough and it doesn't give the protagonists an adequate opportunity to make a decent living in what is a dangerous business!

When Tyson fought Buster Douglas he held the WBA, WBC & IBF belts. In losing to Douglas he lost all 3 belts. Holyfield won all 3 when he beat Douglas in his very next fight.

[magwitch]

So the heavyweight scene was better in the 80s before Tyson went along and ruined it all by unifying belts? Likewise Hopkins at middleweight in the 2000s?

Yes but presumably Tyson was putting them on the line in each fight....I don't know. You get stripped these days if you don't defend the belt. Not sure of the timescales..... How about if a 'unified' champion, like Tyson, gets beat - does that make his opponent the "unified" champion?

Multiple belts is a good thing. It may not apply particularly to the heavyweight scene but other weights are and have always been rich in quality opponents - therefore it's possible to have more than one legitimate World Champion at the weight at the same time.......look at names like Cotto Moseley Forrest Oscar De La Hoya etc etc etc ... could go on all day. One belt is not enough and it doesn't give the protagonists an adequate opportunity to make a decent living in what is a dangerous business!

When Tyson fought Buster Douglas he held the WBA, WBC & IBF belts. In losing to Douglas he lost all 3 belts. Holyfield won all 3 when he beat Douglas in his very next fight.

They say styles make fights - so one guy can clean up (in some potentially very difficult fights) and then some other guy can come and reap the rewards for beating one guy.
What are the other top class fighters boxing for if there's only one man defending his title....... let's take Hearns Hagler Duran Leonard........ do the 3 Championship-calibre NON champion fighters box over some chump change?

That's my way of looking at it. Going back to say - the pre-war era, I'm not sure how it used to be but I'd assume most of those guys fought a lot but weren't rich.

[dberry]

Yes but presumably Tyson was putting them on the line in each fight....I don't know. You get stripped these days if you don't defend the belt. Not sure of the timescales..... How about if a 'unified' champion, like Tyson, gets beat - does that make his opponent the "unified" champion?

Multiple belts is a good thing. It may not apply particularly to the heavyweight scene but other weights are and have always been rich in quality opponents - therefore it's possible to have more than one legitimate World Champion at the weight at the same time.......look at names like Cotto Moseley Forrest Oscar De La Hoya etc etc etc ... could go on all day. One belt is not enough and it doesn't give the protagonists an adequate opportunity to make a decent living in what is a dangerous business!

When Tyson fought Buster Douglas he held the WBA, WBC & IBF belts. In losing to Douglas he lost all 3 belts. Holyfield won all 3 when he beat Douglas in his very next fight.

They say styles make fights - so one guy can clean up (in some potentially very difficult fights) and then some other guy can come and reap the rewards for beating one guy.
What are the other top class fighters boxing for if there's only one man defending his title....... let's take Hearns Hagler Duran Leonard........ do the 3 Championship-calibre NON champion fighters box over some chump change?

That's my way of looking at it. Going back to say - the pre-war era, I'm not sure how it used to be but I'd assume most of those guys fought a lot but weren't rich.

A.J. just made three million pounds fighting Dillion White, no world title involved! Gat to-Ward 2 and 3 were paid more than most world title fights around that time, infact, there's been plenty of non-title fights where the fighters' purses were huge.

[Like a Boss]

When Tyson fought Buster Douglas he held the WBA, WBC & IBF belts. In losing to Douglas he lost all 3 belts. Holyfield won all 3 when he beat Douglas in his very next fight.

They say styles make fights - so one guy can clean up (in some potentially very difficult fights) and then some other guy can come and reap the rewards for beating one guy.
What are the other top class fighters boxing for if there's only one man defending his title....... let's take Hearns Hagler Duran Leonard........ do the 3 Championship-calibre NON champion fighters box over some chump change?

That's my way of looking at it. Going back to say - the pre-war era, I'm not sure how it used to be but I'd assume most of those guys fought a lot but weren't rich.

A.J. just made three million pounds fighting Dillion White, no world title involved! Gat to-Ward 2 and 3 were paid more than most world title fights around that time, infact, there's been plenty of non-title fights where the fighters' purses were huge.

A good example being Mundine vs Green 10 years ago. No title on the line. But easily the biggest money fight in Australian boxing history.

[dberry]

They say styles make fights - so one guy can clean up (in some potentially very difficult fights) and then some other guy can come and reap the rewards for beating one guy.
What are the other top class fighters boxing for if there's only one man defending his title....... let's take Hearns Hagler Duran Leonard........ do the 3 Championship-calibre NON champion fighters box over some chump change?

That's my way of looking at it. Going back to say - the pre-war era, I'm not sure how it used to be but I'd assume most of those guys fought a lot but weren't rich.

A.J. just made three million pounds fighting Dillion White, no world title involved! Gat to-Ward 2 and 3 were paid more than most world title fights around that time, infact, there's been plenty of non-title fights where the fighters' purses were huge.

A good example being Mundine vs Green 10 years ago. No title on the line. But easily the biggest money fight in Australian boxing history.

Superb example

[gilgamesh]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/3/5/111 ... cas-browne

He should take that fight. I think Oquendo is his mandatory for now, but if he gets by him he should fight someone like Briggs. Browne would beat Briggs I figure, and it would give him a title defense allow him to make some more coin off of his title.

Of course if the opportunity to fight Fury comes along I'm positive he'll jump on that instead.

I expect the fight with Oquendo would be close, but Browne would edge it. Oquendo tends to always do just enough to lose.

[dberry]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/3/5/111 ... cas-browne

He should take that fight. I think Oquendo is his mandatory for now, but if he gets by him he should fight someone like Briggs. Browne would beat Briggs I figure, and it would give him a title defense allow him to make some more coin off of his title.

Of course if the opportunity to fight Fury comes along I'm positive he'll jump on that instead.

I expect the fight with Oquendo would be close, but Browne would edge it. Oquendo tends to always do just enough to lose.

And if Browne stopped Briggs, as he did with Welliver, then he has achieved something that a Klitshco couldn't.

[gilgamesh]

The Main thing that should be the first priority for Aussie promoters is putting together Joseph Parker vs Lucas Browne as soon as possible. That would be huge in Australia

[tsmithy50]

The Main thing that should be the first priority for Aussie promoters is putting together Joseph Parker vs Lucas Browne as soon as possible. That would be huge in Australia

That won't happen, Parker would hammer the limited Browne. Plus Browne's promotional team are based in England.

[bogan whisperer]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll....

You got that right.

[tsmithy50]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll....

You got that right.

I see what you did there. child.
Is ya man Browne even a top 10 heavyweight? Really, is he actually one of the top 10 heavyweights in the world? I'd probably give you top 20.

[bogan whisperer]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll....

You got that right.

I see what you did there. child.
Is ya man Browne even a top 10 heavyweight? Really, is he actually one of the top 10 heavyweights in the world? I'd probably give you top 20.

I simply agreed with you that you are a "cockhead, jealous and a troll."

You said it. I agreed.

Whether Browne is Top 10 or Top 20 he is doing very well and had a great win at the weekend. Just a pity all you can do is criticize him and his achievement. Sad really.

[DA GOOSE]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll...... But I'm not a fool, WBA champion, he's not even the best heavyweight in Australasia, he beat an overrated chubby over the hill guy and becomes 'world champion' the WBA will have another belt in a couple weeks maybe #20 and #25 can fight for it, become 'world champion'. Like I said what a crock of poo.

Stop being a party pooper I know the truth you know the truth you'll get called all sorts of names like cockhead and Mr Editor will not give a eff ..........I love Boxing especially when its kept real.

What you say is correct about the double standards on this forum but regardless of what you think of the opponent and title Lucas is a nice guy who had a win(as the underdog)and you are in the Aussie forum so you have to keep it positive.

[bogan whisperer]

Yeah yeah I'm a cockhead and I'm jealous and I'm a troll...... But I'm not a fool, WBA champion, he's not even the best heavyweight in Australasia, he beat an overrated chubby over the hill guy and becomes 'world champion' the WBA will have another belt in a couple weeks maybe #20 and #25 can fight for it, become 'world champion'. Like I said what a crock of poo.

Stop being a party pooper I know the truth you know the truth you'll get called all sorts of names like cockhead and Mr Editor will not give a eff ..........I love Boxing especially when its kept real.

What you say is correct about the double standards on this forum but regardless of what you think of the opponent and title Lucas is a nice guy who had a win(as the underdog)and you are in the Aussie forum so you have to keep it positive.

You have an alternative. The forum where you have to keep it negative. Where you usually post

[DA GOOSE]

I am stoked as anyone Lucas won after our dismal record overseas but I don't think calling people cheads because they have a different opinion is good. That's all Im saying.

[bogan whisperer]

I am stoked as anyone Lucas won after our dismal record overseas but I don't think calling people cheads because they have a different opinion is good. That's all Im saying.

Offer a differing opinion at the other forum you post at and see how courteously it is accepted

[dberry]

I am stoked as anyone Lucas won after our dismal record overseas but I don't think calling people cheads because they have a different opinion is good. That's all Im saying.

Listen, cockhead, don't get started or 'boom-zoom to the moon'!

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Editor listen to this tough pudendum abusing anyone that doesn''t agree with him

[dberry]

Editor listen to this tough pudendum abusing anyone that doesn''t agree with him

Once again misinterpreting what some one has posted and jumping in, I see. Not only that but you're sticking your bib in where it doesn't belong. I've kniwn DAGOOSE for many years on the forums and post a joke to him and, low and behold, along comes you, king of the idiots, getting all worked up because you're confused.

Now, I've seen you offer people out on here and talk it tough, how about you think before you go calling others a 'tough pudendum'. I don't know what your obsession is with me but how about you just shut your idiotic trap until I adress you, fool?

[crusader]

Browne won a secondary version of the WBA title and I wouldn't classify him as the HW champ, but it was still a good win that has propelled him into the the legit top 10 or at least very close to it. Winning a WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO world title, even if just a 'regular' version, is still something that most boxers can only dream about and he would hardly be out of line saying he's a (vs 'the') world champion.

[DA GOOSE]

Editor listen to this tough pudendum abusing anyone that doesn''t agree with him

Dale's OK mate were just kidding.