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Round 12 = Barrera comes out throwing. Ward slips. Barrera knows the score. It seems like Ward has never had to shift into high gear. Beautiful exhibition by Ward, period.

117-111 Ward

ward wide win for me

Nice win for Ward. Very decent performance too.

Official scores =

117-109
119-109
117-108

Ward

did look good

Ward never showed his right hand much. He never got into upper gear.

That said, Barrera is a load.

Ward fought clean, boxed beautifully. Very excellent display of boxing skill.

Barrera was never out of it. I am excited to see him in with Fonfara or the like.

Solid fight. I thought Barrera was a competent competitor and just slightly outclassed by ward.

Tanzio wrote:Barrera was never out of it. I am excited to see him in with Fonfara or the like.

Barrera is just not a top guy. He couldn't make to #1 of Cuban teams, neither can he beat top LHWs. Fonfara sounds about right.

ikorolev wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Barrera was never out of it. I am excited to see him in with Fonfara or the like.

Barrera is just not a top guy. He couldn't make to #1 of Cuban teams, neither can he beat top LHWs. Fonfara sounds about right.

It would be an excellent, entertaining fight. Barrera competed well tonight. He is not an easy out for anyone.

Tanzio wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Barrera was never out of it. I am excited to see him in with Fonfara or the like.

Barrera is just not a top guy. He couldn't make to #1 of Cuban teams, neither can he beat top LHWs. Fonfara sounds about right.

It would be an excellent, entertaining fight. Barrera competed well tonight. He is not an easy out for anyone.

I think Kovalev would easily stop him. I don't think he proved himself to be any better than a top 20 guy

crusader wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

ikorolev wrote:
Barrera is just not a top guy. He couldn't make to #1 of Cuban teams, neither can he beat top LHWs. Fonfara sounds about right.

It would be an excellent, entertaining fight. Barrera competed well tonight. He is not an easy out for anyone.

I think Kovalev would easily stop him. I don't think he proved himself to be any better than a top 20 guy

Maybe. Maybe not. I hope that we do not find out until after Ward v Krusher.

I think that beyond Kovalev, Beterbiev, Ward and possibly Stevenson, there is a wide grey area where both Fonfara and Barrera belong.

I think he fits in more with Y Gonzalez than Fonfara.

It is good to have Ward back. This was a masterful performance, and it was entertaining as fvk.

crusader wrote:I think he fits in more with Y Gonzalez than Fonfara.

Let's find out v Fonfara. I think that Barrera deserves it.

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:I think he fits in more with Y Gonzalez than Fonfara.

Let's find out v Fonfara. I think that Barrera deserves it.

I think crusader overrates Fonfara. I am not sure that he is any better than Y Gonzalez.

Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Evander wrote:Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

Tanzio wrote:

Evander wrote:Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

I disagree about the pop. That was a good performance, but the pop wasn't enough to disturb Barrera. When the KD happened, he was just caught off balance. Of course, Ward could drop Kova who loses balance a lot the same way, but this kind of pop will not be enough to keep Sergey off Andre.

ikorolev wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Evander wrote:Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

I disagree about the pop. That was a good performance, but the pop wasn't enough to disturb Barrera. When the KD happened, he was just caught off balance. Of course, Ward could drop Kova who loses balance a lot the same way, but this kind of pop will not be enough to keep Sergey off Andre.

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Chepppaaa wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

I disagree about the pop. That was a good performance, but the pop wasn't enough to disturb Barrera. When the KD happened, he was just caught off balance. Of course, Ward could drop Kova who loses balance a lot the same way, but this kind of pop will not be enough to keep Sergey off Andre.

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Tanzio wrote:

Evander wrote:Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

I think his reactions were better than I expected, yes he got caught and marked but it didn't in any way change his psyche or attitude, he remained positive and competitive the entire time and we saw 12 full rounds with him under pressure fairly constantly.
He got clean on a couple of occasions and stood up to it fairly well, he didn't suffer from any kind of stamina or pace related problems and looked in good physical shape.
His boxing ability although not too varied was good, the jab, positioning and his ring smarts and left hook seemed in good working order, his power is in his accuracy, timing and delivery.

Evander wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Evander wrote:Andre Ward needed a fight like that, it was a solid 12 rounds for him.
His jab was impressive, his left hook was outstanding at times and he maintained a steady pace throughout the entire bout.
He remained in control and was never out of position while sustataining his focus, yes he's a little slower and older than he was once but overall he looked in quite good form as he looks to have shaken some more of that ring rust off.
Definitely a positive performance from Andre and maybe the pendulum has swung back to him in light of the potential fight with Kovalev although it remains extremely close between the two.
That fight is now shaping up very nicely.

Ward was very BHop like tonight. Krusher v Ward is building into something very large now. Ward showed pop that could conceivably do to Krusher or Adonis what FMJ did to GingerHead.

I think his reactions were better than I expected, yes he got caught and marked but it didn't in any way change his psyche or attitude, he remained positive and competitive the entire time and we saw 12 full rounds with him under pressure fairly constantly.
He got clean on a couple of occasions and stood up to it fairly well, he didn't suffer from any kind of stamina or pace related problems and looked in good physical shape.
His boxing ability although not too varied was good, the jab, positioning and his ring smarts and left hook seemed in good working order, his power is in his accuracy, timing and delivery.

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Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:I think he fits in more with Y Gonzalez than Fonfara.

Let's find out v Fonfara. I think that Barrera deserves it.

\Fonfara wins that fight 8 rounds to 4 or so.