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Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 06:43
by ttornado
Clearly an intentional headbutt.
A frustrated fighter used to bullying opponents before and during fights isn't getting his own way so decides to cheat.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 08:05
by jamesmcdonnell
ttornado wrote:
Clearly an intentional headbutt.
A frustrated fighter used to bullying opponents before and during fights isn't getting his own way so decides to cheat.
Love the way that Fury doesn't even bother making a song and dance (which probably would have given Wlad some encouragement), but instead shakes it off and gets back to work.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 09:20
by Badhusker
jezzamundo wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:ttornado wrote:He could have accepted the defeat to a better man on the night, except he decided to cheat:

Didn't look deliberate to me. Fury pulled Wlad's head in.
Fury used a
deliberate head butt against the MUCH smaller Cunningham, and fouled Cunningham holding his head while hitting to end the fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeTe1x7zKoI
You seriously don't think that was a deliberate headbutt from Wlad?! Fury's glove was on the back of his neck and it moved as Wlad moved - he clearly put his whole body into the butt. Obviously Wlad was frustrated that the fight wasn't going his way - it was a pretty blatant foul and one that at least deserved a warning.
No argument about Fury fouling Cunningham - I think the ref should have given Cunningham as much time as he needed to recover due to the KD being from holding and hitting. That said, I think Fury would have ground him down eventually - the size and strength gap in that fight was too big for Steve to overcome.
Pretty clear head butt to me, unless you are blind. What Fury is doing is also illegal with his glove behind Wlad's neck pushing his head down, or trying to. Remember who was reffing though, the guy that lets anything go...low blows, head butts, knees, double leg takedown, rabbit punches, kidney punches, arm twisting, etc. He is pathetic as a ref.
Yes, how Fury KO'd Cunningham was definitely illegal. It was basically the same as Khan KO punch of Judah. Both guys should have had time to recover, and a point deducted from Fury and Khan. There was no outrage for either case though, since both Khan and Fury were winning the fight, or people thought the win was inevitable.
Fury predicted Martin would expose Joshua, and called Joshua just hype. I'm quite sure he was hoping Martin would win so he didn't have to face Joshua, who beat the crap out of Fury (according to Fury) in sparring a couple of years back. Right now Joshua, Wilder, and possibly Ortiz would beat Fury, imo.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 09:25
by Stevieb8006
Oh like when Joshua pokes his tongue out at his fallen victims u mean? Or when he clouts them after the bell?
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 09:29
by Horse
Stevieb8006 wrote:Oh like when Joshua pokes his tongue out at his fallen victims u mean? Or when he clouts them after the bell?
Don't forget when he hits them when they are down or thrusts his crotch in their face.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 09:31
by Stevieb8006
Freedom2013 wrote:Brute wrote:I cannot see how Fury could be jealous.
Fury is a boring boxer and feather-fisted.
Joshua is an exciting fighter and a very powerful puncher.
Fury has spent a lifetime in boxing gyms, but has no real athletic ability. He has no talent, he's just big.
Joshua just started boxing a few years ago, he's a top-notch athlete. He has
real talent.
Tyson Fury was on the defensive for 12 rounds, fighting as if he was scared to death of an old, faded 40 year old.
Anthony Joshua did what top HWs are
supposed to do against an opponent like Martin.
Sky doesn't want to show another boring fight with Tyson Fury.
Sky prefers to telecast Joshua's much more exciting fights.
Tyson comes across as stupid and childish.
Joshua comes across as an intelligent man.
aj is juiced to the gills, fury (probably) isnt
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 13:24
by Freedom2013
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 13:26
by Freedom2013
Stevieb8006 wrote:aj is juiced to the gills, fury (probably) isnt
You don't know that.
Joshua has never tested positive.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 13:36
by Stevieb8006
Freedom2013 wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:aj is juiced to the gills, fury (probably) isnt
You don't know that.
Joshua has never tested positive.
Seriously tho. Open your eyes.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 13:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
I assume they all are.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 16:38
by Taki...
Stevieb8006 wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:aj is juiced to the gills, fury (probably) isnt
You don't know that.
Joshua has never tested positive.
Seriously tho. Open your eyes.
Ignorant nonsense. How about condemning Ortiz who was actually caught juicing? Have you opened your eyes and looked at The Roided King Kong... Not exactly chiseled from stone is he?
It's been mentioned numerous times that Joshua is a gym addict, maybe that's why he's cut...
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 16:41
by Stevieb8006
Taki... wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:You don't know that.
Joshua has never tested positive.
Seriously tho. Open your eyes.
Ignorant nonsense. How about condemning Ortiz who was actually caught juicing? Have you opened your eyes and looked at The Roided King Kong... Not exactly chiseled from stone is he?
It's been mentioned numerous times that Joshua is a gym addict, maybe that's why he's cut...
He's on the juice. if you speak to people that aren't "ignorant" on the subject IE body builders, they will put u straight

Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 18:05
by Taki...
Stevieb8006 wrote:Taki... wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:
Seriously tho. Open your eyes.
Ignorant nonsense. How about condemning Ortiz who was actually caught juicing? Have you opened your eyes and looked at The Roided King Kong... Not exactly chiseled from stone is he?
It's been mentioned numerous times that Joshua is a gym addict, maybe that's why he's cut...
He's on the juice. if you speak to people that aren't "ignorant" on the subject IE body builders, they will put u straight

Oh bodybuilders! I forgot they were experts on what illegal supplements boxers might be taking. Huge cross-over in those two disciplines.
How about I put you straight? Innocent until proven guilty -- even if you know some bodybuilders...
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 18:37
by Rexob
jamesmcdonnell wrote:ttornado wrote:
Clearly an intentional headbutt.
A frustrated fighter used to bullying opponents before and during fights isn't getting his own way so decides to cheat.
Love the way that Fury doesn't even bother making a song and dance (which probably would have given Wlad some encouragement), but instead shakes it off and gets back to work.
I wonder what AJ would ?
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 17:48
by man
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I assume they all are.
and some are smarter and have access to
better doctors than others. the cheaters
are usually a few meters ahead of the testers
and boxing is not even threatening with
substantial sanctions. i would be not surprised
if boxing turned out to be like cycling twenty
years ago. but unlike cycling, nobody seems
to really care.
Re: Fury expresses his envy of Joshua on twitter
Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 18:17
by SaadOffTheDeck
man wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I assume they all are.
and some are smarter and have access to
better doctors than others. the cheaters
are usually a few meters ahead of the testers
and boxing is not even threatening with
substantial sanctions. i would be not surprised
if boxing turned out to be like cycling twenty
years ago. but unlike cycling, nobody seems
to really care.
You really have to work hard to get caught in boxing.