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Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 27 May 2016, 21:28
by crusader
lefty wrote:Having watched more footage of Makabu- I'm gonna go for a Bellew KO/TKO around the 8/9th. Makabu was buzzed momentarily against Eric Fields, Rocked in the second or third round against Mchunu (who's not a particularly big puncher at cruiserweight) and was knocked out on his debut or within his first few fights against a guy we've never heard of. So his chin isn't rock solid and he's defensively pretty leaky. I also think he's gonna struggle pretty badly with Bellew's height and length pretty badly.
His chin kind of seems like Bellew's then.
I agree that Bellew's length could give him serious problems, but I also think that he has more firepower and may be able to overcome that eventually. Very interesting fight and one that I'm really looking forward to; I was all ready to watch it tomorrow (it's still Friday where I'm at), so I'm a bit bummed that it's not happening till Sunday
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 02:23
by Andrew
crusader wrote:lefty wrote:Having watched more footage of Makabu- I'm gonna go for a Bellew KO/TKO around the 8/9th. Makabu was buzzed momentarily against Eric Fields, Rocked in the second or third round against Mchunu (who's not a particularly big puncher at cruiserweight) and was knocked out on his debut or within his first few fights against a guy we've never heard of. So his chin isn't rock solid and he's defensively pretty leaky. I also think he's gonna struggle pretty badly with Bellew's height and length pretty badly.
His chin kind of seems like Bellew's then.
I agree that Bellew's length could give him serious problems,
but I also think that he has more firepower and may be able to overcome that eventually. Very interesting fight and one that I'm really looking forward to; I was all ready to watch it tomorrow (it's still Friday where I'm at), so I'm a bit bummed that it's not happening till Sunday
Bellews having powaah is a myth. He carried that guy in Liverpool last year and looked poor I turned off after about 5 rounds
I'm also very suspect on Bellews chin as a cruiserweight Masternak is not exactly a big puncher. It's a shame boxing wise he turned down the Glowacki fight to do Creed ( I can understand why he did this, you can't turn down that opportunity). Looking at how Glowacki is now that would have answered a lot of questions about Bellew as a cruiserweight.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 05:01
by lefty
crusader wrote:lefty wrote:Having watched more footage of Makabu- I'm gonna go for a Bellew KO/TKO around the 8/9th. Makabu was buzzed momentarily against Eric Fields, Rocked in the second or third round against Mchunu (who's not a particularly big puncher at cruiserweight) and was knocked out on his debut or within his first few fights against a guy we've never heard of. So his chin isn't rock solid and he's defensively pretty leaky. I also think he's gonna struggle pretty badly with Bellew's height and length pretty badly.
His chin kind of seems like Bellew's then.
I agree that Bellew's length could give him serious problems, but I also think that he has more firepower and may be able to overcome that eventually. Very interesting fight and one that I'm really looking forward to; I was all ready to watch it tomorrow (it's still Friday where I'm at), so I'm a bit bummed that it's not happening till Sunday
Yeah I think they're both a little suspect around the whiskers! Should be interested to see how it pans out!
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 09:27
by ElJefe
Bloody hell, Pricey weighed in at 273lbs, 20lbs heavier than he's ever been.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 09:33
by Counter-puncher
ElJefe wrote:Bloody hell, Pricey weighed in at 273lbs, 20lbs heavier than he's ever been.
Well it will be *very interesting* to see if he has made those gains without a discernible increase in bodyfat......
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 09:55
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:ElJefe wrote:Bloody hell, Pricey weighed in at 273lbs, 20lbs heavier than he's ever been.
Well it will be *very interesting* to see if he has made those gains without a discernible increase in bodyfat......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAc1rXXi98 ..... somewhat fleshier but not hugely so I don't think. Hmm.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 10:02
by Realistic
Nearly 20 stone!
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 10:04
by Counter-puncher
Meh, I have seen more 'suspicious-looking' physiques but people who know more than I do tell me you cant always go by the logic 'ripped= on it'
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 10:14
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:Meh, I have seen more 'suspicious-looking' physiques but people who know more than I do tell me you cant always go by the logic 'ripped= on it'
True. However his body fat % whilsts it's definietly risen somewhat, it's not like Bellew at cruiserweight who looks like he's got a beer gut on him lol.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 12:15
by wesshaw1985
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 12:37
by Rexob
lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:ElJefe wrote:Bloody hell, Pricey weighed in at 273lbs, 20lbs heavier than he's ever been.
Well it will be *very interesting* to see if he has made those gains without a discernible increase in bodyfat......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAc1rXXi98 ..... somewhat fleshier but not hugely so I don't think. Hmm.
Obviously hasn't trained or it's a new tactic, instead of prancing around like a flyweight, actually use his height and size to do something in the heavyweight division?
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 13:26
by Andrew
The state of Burtons opponent too
He's British champion FFS
When you win a title you should be done with 6 rounders
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnz6_J1imXA
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 13:33
by Autobarn
Naandrew wrote:crusader wrote:lefty wrote:Having watched more footage of Makabu- I'm gonna go for a Bellew KO/TKO around the 8/9th. Makabu was buzzed momentarily against Eric Fields, Rocked in the second or third round against Mchunu (who's not a particularly big puncher at cruiserweight) and was knocked out on his debut or within his first few fights against a guy we've never heard of. So his chin isn't rock solid and he's defensively pretty leaky. I also think he's gonna struggle pretty badly with Bellew's height and length pretty badly.
His chin kind of seems like Bellew's then.
I agree that Bellew's length could give him serious problems,
but I also think that he has more firepower and may be able to overcome that eventually. Very interesting fight and one that I'm really looking forward to; I was all ready to watch it tomorrow (it's still Friday where I'm at), so I'm a bit bummed that it's not happening till Sunday
Bellews having powaah is a myth. He carried that guy in Liverpool last year and looked poor I turned off after about 5 rounds
I'm also very suspect on Bellews chin as a cruiserweight Masternak is not exactly a big puncher. It's a shame boxing wise he turned down the Glowacki fight to do Creed ( I can understand why he did this, you can't turn down that opportunity). Looking at how Glowacki is now that would have answered a lot of questions about Bellew as a cruiserweight.
I wasn't aware that Bellew was close to fighting Glowacki.
That's the most dangerous "what if" since Froch opted to continue his thrilling rivalry with Kessler rather than face his leading IBF contender Adonis Stevenson, who was better than expected in moving up a weight to fight Chad Dawson etc for the light heavyweight title.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 13:35
by Fortynineandout
Padding out an already padded record .
He had a similar opponent at the Manchester arena on the Crolla undercard.
It's a disgrace in truth for the British champion ...surely someone somewhere in the uk can challenge him ? If not surely a better fighter in the opposite corner can be found ? .
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 14:08
by bripez
I gave just read Burtons full record for the first time and apart from when he won the vacant title all his other fights have been against journeymen at best.
Have there been any reasons given for his last 2 fights since winning the title or are we many to assume that not one single lour heavy in Grea Britain is willing to challenge him?
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 14:51
by lefty
Rexob wrote:lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:
Well it will be *very interesting* to see if he has made those gains without a discernible increase in bodyfat......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAc1rXXi98 ..... somewhat fleshier but not hugely so I don't think. Hmm.
Obviously hasn't trained or it's a new tactic, instead of prancing around like a flyweight, actually use his height and size to do something in the heavyweight division?
The problem is, he'll be even more static and flat footed than he usually is. Should be stronger in the clinches and will probably dig even more so than usual which will be impressiv though.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 14:55
by crusader
Maybe he'll start blowing even faster now.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 28 May 2016, 14:59
by lefty
crusader wrote:Maybe he'll start blowing even faster now.
That's a good point
...... Price gassed out after 2/3 rounds than 5.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 29 May 2016, 13:12
by wesshaw1985
the show has started in Sky Sports, Price up first...
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 29 May 2016, 13:24
by Sklar
Counter-puncher wrote:Meh, I have seen more 'suspicious-looking' physiques but people who know more than I do tell me you cant always go by the logic 'ripped= on it'
I just rekon he's put some fat on mate. It spreads out quite well over guys his size.
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 29 May 2016, 13:33
by wesshaw1985
haha B0xNati0n getting a plug...
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 29 May 2016, 16:52
by wesshaw1985
Here we go...
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 29 May 2016, 19:05
by wesshaw1985
Re: Tony Bellew vs. Ilunga Makabu - May 29th 2016
Posted: 30 May 2016, 03:29
by wesshaw1985