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Horse wrote:
Perhaps Warrington and Hall should have re-entered the rankings above Skeete.

I was just about to post that, i'd put them above Cleverly at the moment also. Fonfara, Guererro and Amagasa are all roughly the same level but Warrington and Hall both won their fights and Cleverly lost his. They were all good fights that were closer than the scorecards suggested, but I feel (and the consensus seems to be) that the right man won on all three occasions.

keirw wrote:I was just about to post that, i'd put them above Cleverly at the moment also. Fonfara, Guererro and Amagasa are all roughly the same level but Warrington and Hall both won their fights and Cleverly lost his. They were all good fights that were closer than the scorecards suggested, but I feel (and the consensus seems to be) that the right man won on all three occasions.

Fonfara is better than the other two. Fonfara is a consensus top 10 ranked light heavyweight.

I think Cleverly deserves to be above Hall and Warrington for now.

Horse wrote:

keirw wrote:I was just about to post that, i'd put them above Cleverly at the moment also. Fonfara, Guererro and Amagasa are all roughly the same level but Warrington and Hall both won their fights and Cleverly lost his. They were all good fights that were closer than the scorecards suggested, but I feel (and the consensus seems to be) that the right man won on all three occasions.

Fonfara is better than the other two. Fonfara is a consensus top 10 ranked light heavyweight.

I think Cleverly deserves to be above Hall and Warrington for now.

Fonfara may be a little bit better than the other two, but they are similar levels (fringe world class).
Although Cleverly has a better record overall, i feel Hall and Warrington' wins over Guerrero and Amagasa, respectively, are far better wins than Cleverly has managed in a few years now.

keirw wrote:Fonfara may be a little bit better than the other two, but they are similar levels (fringe world class).

On paper Fonfara is much better than the other two.

Fonfara is a top 5 world ranked fighter. The other two are nowhere near that level at the moment.

keirw wrote:Although Cleverly has a better record overall, i feel Hall and Warrington' wins over Guerrero and Amagasa, respectively, are far better wins than Cleverly has managed in a few years now.

They are better wins than Cleverly has managed in recent years, yes.

I still think Cleverly deserves to be above them for now based on his superior overall record and being very competitive in a recent fight with a genuine world level opponent.

David Haye is too low, he still unified cruserweight and won a HW title. It's not oike he is over the hill either. Should be top 20 at least

TopGun wrote:David Haye is too low, he still unified cruserweight and won a HW title. It's not oike he is over the hill either. Should be top 20 at least

It's almost 4 years since he beat Chisora and all that he's done since then is beat some no mark called Mark de Mori.

He does not deserve a top 20 spot.

John McDermott should be top 20. He's the man they are all scared of.

PredatorHayds wrote:John McDermott should be top 20. He's the man they are all scared of.

Yes, he is a man that is feared and avoided, but he hasn't fought in over 3 years now and being feared isn't enough to earn a place.

Haye vs McDermott later this year would be tasty.

Crolla must surely rocket up this table now.
You didn't rate the 2 Perez performances. But you have to acknowledge that. Well into the top 10.

More importantly above Murray

davie wrote:Crolla must surely rocket up this table now.
You didn't rate the 2 Perez performances. But you have to acknowledge that. Well into the top 10.

More importantly above Murray

Crolla will move up the rankings quite a few places, but let's not get crazy.

Horse wrote:

davie wrote:Crolla must surely rocket up this table now.
You didn't rate the 2 Perez performances. But you have to acknowledge that. Well into the top 10.

More importantly above Murray

Crolla will move up the rankings quite a few places, but let's not get crazy.

No let's go crazy ! , the lad is fast becoming one of our very best .

rd350lc wrote:No let's go crazy ! , the lad is fast becoming one of our very best .

Neither Perez nor Barroso were proven top level fighters.

They were very good performances from Crolla, but they were not really world class opponents.

Barroso is currently ranked at No. 24 by BoxRec and Perez is ranked at No. 43.

Horse wrote:

rd350lc wrote:No let's go crazy ! , the lad is fast becoming one of our very best .

Neither Perez nor Barroso were proven top level fighters.

They were very good performances from Crolla, but they were not really world class opponents.

Barroso is currently ranked at No. 24 by BoxRec and Perez is ranked at No. 43.

fair doo's , but neither have Kell Brook's last 3 and I know you don't think much of that .

rd350lc wrote:fair doo's , but neither have Kell Brook's last 3 and I know you don't think much of that .

Brook's moving down the rankings because of his poor opposition.

Crolla's slowly moving up in class. I hope that he can prove himself to be a genuine world class fighter in his next few fights.

I reckon 11-12 is reasonable for Crolla not top 10 IMO.