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Therealjudge wrote:250 to 260 is a fair assumption... But I do think it depends how he's gonna fight vlad this time.. If he's looking to ko vlad, don't be surprised if he comes in a little heavier to just plant his feet and bang.. If he's decided to box off the back foot and move vlad around a bit, he may be a little lighter.. The weight of Tyson come fight night will tell a lot about how it's gonna go down.. 100% this fight will be more entertaining than the first.. I travelled to Düsseldorf to watch it live in the stadium. And bar the result.. It was a little disappointing..

Therealjudge wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Therealjudge wrote:250 to 260 is a fair assumption... But I do think it depends how he's gonna fight vlad this time.. If he's looking to ko vlad, don't be surprised if he comes in a little heavier to just plant his feet and bang.. If he's decided to box off the back foot and move vlad around a bit, he may be a little lighter.. The weight of Tyson come fight night will tell a lot about how it's gonna go down.. 100% this fight will be more entertaining than the first.. I travelled to Düsseldorf to watch it live in the stadium. And bar the result.. It was a little disappointing..

Or he may be heavier just because he was lazy.

That's a ridiculous thing to say... Heavyweight champ of the world being lazy for the biggest fight of his life??? Ludicrous.. If he's heavy it's for a reason, if he's lighter it's for a reason.. They are a very educated team/family! They don't do cutting corners full stop.. I hope that clears that up for you.

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Evander wrote:Did Ricky Hatton do the same thing and balloon in weight off fight and come back down fight time ?

It's well known that Ricky Hatton put on huge amounts of weight inbetween fights, and always got back to fight weight in time.. Who knows how good he could have been if he stayed in shape all year round.. But that's now just for speculation.. Plus it's a lot harder to do for the lighter weights..

Therealjudge wrote:Gilgamesh.. You sound like a guy from the upper class in the 1900's, he says and does poo like that to purposefully annoy the stuck up and straight laced boring people in boxing.. The working class man finds him funny and entertaining, it's not something to take seriously.. It's all tongue in cheek stuff.. The working class are the life blood of boxing full stop.. They buy the ppv's, they turn up and fill stadiums.. Not the upper class "offended by it fools" who'd rather play polo or watch tennis.. Old fashioned opinions are boring as poo.. Whether you like it or not.. CONTROVERSY sells

Therealjudge wrote: Speaking about ali's classy trash talk, which was as racist and pathetic as it gets... who's the real clown here, I read what you said. And without tone of voice to go by.. It sounds like your glorifying ali's bullshit and knocking furys! There is no argument fool.. Just opinions.. You sound like your jocking ali's piece and hating on fury.. Just how it sounds.. How can you be classy and trashy at the same time..
don't know how my comment got in the middle of yours... Apologies on my behalf!

Therealjudge wrote:... the long hard road to get there...

Oiky wrote:think alot of it comes from people don't like people who aren't afraid to say exactly what they want and do say things to please anybody.

Therealjudge wrote:

man wrote:

Therealjudge wrote:... the long hard road to get there...

really? for the lineup of dangerous
A-level opponents he had to face?
for the thriller-in-manilla he had
with wlad to conquer the title?

i have a different description of "the
road": never has been an easier one to
become lineal heavy weight champion
of the world.

Had to fight 3 world title eliminators.. Over a space of 5+ years.. Had fighters pull out against him on multiple occasions.. And you call that easy from your armchair...

Therealjudge wrote:Did I say merciless road to hell? Or long hard road.. You do the math sarcasm!

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gp. wrote:

Therealjudge wrote:Gilgamesh.. You sound like a guy from the upper class in the 1900's, he says and does poo like that to purposefully annoy the stuck up and straight laced boring people in boxing.. The working class man finds him funny and entertaining, it's not something to take seriously.. It's all tongue in cheek stuff.. The working class are the life blood of boxing full stop.. They buy the ppv's, they turn up and fill stadiums.. Not the upper class "offended by it fools" who'd rather play polo or watch tennis.. Old fashioned opinions are boring as poo.. Whether you like it or not.. CONTROVERSY sells

Old fashioned opinions?????

You think Fury's claims that women should be on their backs or in the kitchen are a contrast to other people's "old-fashioned" opinions??
You think that claiming accepting gay people will aid to bring about a biblical apocalypse and cause the Devil to rule on earth is a MODERN opinion???

I'm saying what he's says is clearly aimed at ruffling the feathers of people like you! Did you not hear his apology about it all.. It's tongue in cheek.. Off the cuff.. He doesn't really mean it.. I use Muhammad Ali as a comparison because he came out with far more offending comments when he was champ and nobody batted an eye lid.. He then converted to a Muslim.. Who by the way like their women to be covered from head to toe with only their eyes showing.. Do you support that too!! Get on another politically correct bandwagon.. Find another lamb to slaughter. Your " he's a bad guy" argument holds no weight with me..
Did you even read what you said there?

gp. wrote:Well quite clearly you didn't read what I said, as you are ranting about unconnected matters.

I raised one point and one point only; that you described Tyson Fury's comments as not being "old-fashioned" opinions. Tongue in cheek or not, what could be more old fashioned then suggesting women have no place outside the kitchen and suggesting that legalising homosexuality will cause the Christian devil to take over the earth? Nothing about the rightness or wrongness of Fury. I haven't for a moment suggested he's a bad guy. I just want to know how you can claim those opinions aren't old fashioned.

Therealjudge wrote:

gp. wrote:

Therealjudge wrote: I'm saying what he's says is clearly aimed at ruffling the feathers of people like you! Did you not hear his apology about it all.. It's tongue in cheek.. Off the cuff.. He doesn't really mean it.. I use Muhammad Ali as a comparison because he came out with far more offending comments when he was champ and nobody batted an eye lid.. He then converted to a Muslim.. Who by the way like their women to be covered from head to toe with only their eyes showing.. Do you support that too!! Get on another politically correct bandwagon.. Find another lamb to slaughter. Your " he's a bad guy" argument holds no weight with me..
Did you even read what you said there?

Well quite clearly you didn't read what I said, as you are ranting about unconnected matters.

I raised one point and one point only; that you described Tyson Fury's comments as not being "old-fashioned" opinions. Tongue in cheek or not, what could be more old fashioned then suggesting women have no place outside the kitchen and suggesting that legalising homosexuality will cause the Christian devil to take over the earth? Nothing about the rightness or wrongness of Fury. I haven't for a moment suggested he's a bad guy. I just want to know how you can claim those opinions aren't old fashioned.

Let me repeat again!! Old fashioned views are boring as poo!! So why all the feathers so ruffled by them?? There's nothing wrong with having an old fashioned view.. It doesn't have to be exciting, right, or wrong, it's just an opinion, and nobody has the right to scrutinise it just because they have a more modern view! Your opinion is "gay is ok". the oldest book I can think of "the holy bible" would say different.. After all.. God made "Adam and eve".. NOT "Adam and Steve" for example..

Therealjudge wrote:Don't love the guy by any means, but fully respect his accomplishments, and the long hard road to get there... I do however detest people who show far less accomplished fighters an unjust amount of equal or more respect.. Just because mainstream media say so.. To coin the phrase nuthugger you clearly from that elk.. I say nothing on here that I wouldn't repeat to a fighters face.. I think that is very important.. If you say, write, think or believe something then stick by it.. Don't jump on bandwagons all the time. If your a homosexual! I can see where your discomfort comes from and understand why you jumped on this particular bandwagon, and are clearly upset.. Anything else should just be chuckled at really.. "Side note" il be the first to admit my writing ability is not the greatest by any stretch, I'm also under no illusions that I'm highly educated.. Far from it in fact.. But I feel I get my points across and I'm understood at least to a degree.. All opinions are different and I have no problem with any.. What's wrong with a healthy argument??

Therealjudge wrote: Indeed that's how the discussion started.. It has since then gone all over the place and up and down other avenues.. I'm just starting to get the hang of this forum.. And hopefully a handle on whom I'm debating with and when, multiple different debates with multiple different people is making it extremely difficult to keep up with and more importantly why I'm debating with them.. So much so, they have had me mincing my words out of pure frustration and eagerness to reply to them all.. Not everyone on here speaks with an open mind and respectfully.. Some are on a high horse from the outset and for want of a better word "rude" in their rebuttal's, comments and reply's.. My words and grammar are not the best as a few have pointed out.. I've only really been rude to people that have been rude to start with.. Nobody here is right or wrong.. It's all about opinions.. But some of them are so ridiculous it's untrue.. So quick to slag of a down play stuff, it's doubly hard to take seriously let alone reply to.. If your not affected directly by a fighters comments, then don't argue the point like so.. It's just wasting time and another band wagon to jump on.. If your not gay don't get upset by it.. He's not talking about your wife, mother, sister, or girlfriend, I think he's talking about his own and jokingly.. More importantly it's the media's fault for highlighting the negatives of certain fighters and brushing aside the positives.. That was the point I was trying to make..

Taki... wrote:

Therealjudge wrote: Indeed that's how the discussion started.. It has since then gone all over the place and up and down other avenues.. I'm just starting to get the hang of this forum.. And hopefully a handle on whom I'm debating with and when, multiple different debates with multiple different people is making it extremely difficult to keep up with and more importantly why I'm debating with them.. So much so, they have had me mincing my words out of pure frustration and eagerness to reply to them all.. Not everyone on here speaks with an open mind and respectfully.. Some are on a high horse from the outset and for want of a better word "rude" in their rebuttal's, comments and reply's.. My words and grammar are not the best as a few have pointed out.. I've only really been rude to people that have been rude to start with.. Nobody here is right or wrong.. It's all about opinions.. But some of them are so ridiculous it's untrue.. So quick to slag of a down play stuff, it's doubly hard to take seriously let alone reply to.. If your not affected directly by a fighters comments, then don't argue the point like so.. It's just wasting time and another band wagon to jump on.. If your not gay don't get upset by it.. He's not talking about your wife, mother, sister, or girlfriend, I think he's talking about his own and jokingly.. More importantly it's the media's fault for highlighting the negatives of certain fighters and brushing aside the positives.. That was the point I was trying to make..

It's a forum, you'll blow a fuse if rudeness bothers you.
Some people are better than others with words. Though I'm not above a bit of pedantry when the mood takes me.
The idea that I, or anyone else, should ignore bigotry that doesn't directly apply to me is not something I can agree with.
I should ignore the holocaust because I'm not a Jew? Apartheid was fine because I'm neither South African or black?
If you want to forget Fury's bigoted comments then that's up to you. However, don't expect anyone else to accept your reasoning for doing so.
As for blaming the media? Nonsense. If climb into a tigers cage you don't blame the tiger for biting you.

wesshaw1985 wrote: Well arent you a fine individual shedding tears at every little injustice that happens in the world.
I bet you are a fan of that humble ex-drug dealer AJ.
If Tyson beats up a homosexual simply for being a homosexual or literally chains his wife to a sink then i will condemn him until then he is just a 27 year old man flapping is gums.
White knights like you do society no favours my friend...

Therealjudge wrote:
The holocaust, the apartheid era! As shocking as they was.. What can you do as a person now about any of it??? The answer is jack.. You can do nothing about it. Furthermore, to compare a few flippant remarks by a boxer or somebody's thoughts to "the holocaust" and "The Apartheid" is the ridiculous shite that I was talking about earlier.. It doesn't bare thought or even comparison.. It's outrageous to suggest they are even from the same planet of evil.. How high is that horse your on.. Those shocking acts of humanity that you've highlighted are some of the worst in the history of mankind.. Yet I, and millions of other British who were not directly affected by it fail to shed tears over it. Stay in your own lane, and worry about what effects you, your existence, your family and your life. Busying yourself with other people of no relation to your owns problems is the recipe for an early grave.. Take light hearted comments with a pinch of salt and move on.. Taking them as gospel is no good for your health.. That's a big problem with the world today.. Busy body's over thinking and over reacting to things that don't effect them.. Side note.. Should "anders breivik" have human rights after he ended the lives of 75 men women and children... The answer is no clearly! The fact is he has human rights and is taking the justice system in Norway to court.. Yes court.. And the sad point is he'll probably win too.. I dunno.. You do the math.. Oh protector of feelings..

Taki... wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote: Well arent you a fine individual shedding tears at every little injustice that happens in the world.
I bet you are a fan of that humble ex-drug dealer AJ.
If Tyson beats up a homosexual simply for being a homosexual or literally chains his wife to a sink then i will condemn him until then he is just a 27 year old man flapping is gums.
White knights like you do society no favours my friend...

Not kissing Fury's chocolate starfish because you think everyone should is hardly shedding tears for injustice.
Yeah, there's no merit in using boxing to turn your life around.
Only discrimination in action is reprehensible? Bollocks.
And what sort of knight are you? Rushing to the defence of that poor maiden Tyson Fury, because some people disagree with his bigotry.

Freedom2013 wrote:Tyson Fury seems to be mentally unstable.

One day he's disparaging gays, next day he kisses a gay man, one day he's moving to the USA, another he's making accusations of racism, one day he's praising Klitschko, next he's disparaging Klitschko, next day he's talking about Joshua's penis, next day he's saying he's going to retire.

He says Klitschko is a boring boxer, but when he was Fury's age he was much better to watch - Wlad was always trying to KO his opponents.

Fury is safety first. Compare Fury's DULL fight with Kevin Johnson to Anthony Joshua's. Tyson "The New Safety Pin" Fury.