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keithmoonhangover wrote:I want Fury to win the rematch, put I think he will enter the ring mentally and physically ill prepared and get knocked out.

Sklar wrote:If Fury loses and I don't think he will this time, he'll keep fighting, there's too much easy money to be made and despite what he says sometimes, he likes boxing.

Sklar wrote:Not a chance. He's a bullshit artist / wind-up merchant.

magwitch wrote:

Sklar wrote:If Fury loses and I don't think he will this time, he'll keep fighting, there's too much easy money to be made and despite what he says sometimes, he likes boxing.

Agree.

A year ago he said he was potless. 7 years ago he said he had a million. Probably both were an exaggeration.

I think 3 or 4 months on the couch and he’ll miss being talked about. You think Fury has the patience or temprament to sit on his arse watching Joshua get cash and attention? I don’t.

I don’t know if he is a flambuoyant spender but if he comes back in 3 or 4 years them Lancashire pies he enjoys will be a LOT harder to shift - and he knows that.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Autobarn wrote:Very strange, very random. Hope he isn't throwing away the biggest prize in boxing. Hope he isn't giving Wlad a chance to resume one of the most tedious reigns in heavyweight history. Was really looking forward to Fury v Joshua, probably the biggest fight ever in British boxing history. Not to mention the biggest fight in the sport's current climate.

Maybe these burdens are too much for Tyson to carry?

Well at least let's hope he can get in good enough shape physically and mentally to negate Wlad again. Hope he doesn't get remembered as the guy who fluked one time vs Klitschko. Though if he does, he'll be well paid for it.


Interestingly, my prediction for Fury a few years ago was he'd make it to a Wlad fight, get destroyed, and retire a happy man on the payday as in haha, I got paid x million to get beaten up. Maybe I was just a fight or two late in my prediction?

It does seem he's rather mercurial - it could all be a wheeze, but I suspect not - not judging by the look on Mick Hennessy's face during their press conferences, clearly he's a creature of whim and stream of consciousness.

gilgamesh wrote:Him retiring after the Klitschko rematch is as likely as a Woman becoming the ruler of a Muslim country. He'll be back several times after the Wlad rematch. Win or lose.

Autobarn wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Autobarn wrote:Very strange, very random. Hope he isn't throwing away the biggest prize in boxing. Hope he isn't giving Wlad a chance to resume one of the most tedious reigns in heavyweight history. Was really looking forward to Fury v Joshua, probably the biggest fight ever in British boxing history. Not to mention the biggest fight in the sport's current climate.

Maybe these burdens are too much for Tyson to carry?

Well at least let's hope he can get in good enough shape physically and mentally to negate Wlad again. Hope he doesn't get remembered as the guy who fluked one time vs Klitschko. Though if he does, he'll be well paid for it.


Interestingly, my prediction for Fury a few years ago was he'd make it to a Wlad fight, get destroyed, and retire a happy man on the payday as in haha, I got paid x million to get beaten up. Maybe I was just a fight or two late in my prediction?

It does seem he's rather mercurial - it could all be a wheeze, but I suspect not - not judging by the look on Mick Hennessy's face during their press conferences, clearly he's a creature of whim and stream of consciousness.

be a shame after all Hennessy's setbacks to lose the big earner, who holds the biggest prize.

Hope Fury can settle on a consistent mood.

He's only just scaled the top of the mountain, he still has doubters and I hope he doesn't throw it away and regret it later.

I mean the Joshua fight could be huge. They could fill a lot of people in an arena of course and the PPV over here and in the states given Joshua's Showtime contract.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

olij999 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
It does seem he's rather mercurial - it could all be a wheeze, but I suspect not - not judging by the look on Mick Hennessy's face during their press conferences, clearly he's a creature of whim and stream of consciousness.

I agree. Tyson just seems to say what is in his head and heart when he is asked - ask him on a different day and his answer may well be different. More interesting than being media-trained to the nth degree, though.

PS - love the separate geopolitical debate that has arisen - wouldn't get that kind of quality on CS...

I'll grant that, it's certainly unpredictable.

Yes, on the current scene there'd already be several people banned, and various threats and boasts about how much various people can bench thrown around, though I am worrying about Wesshaw turning up at my doorstep shouting pussy through my letterbox at this stage.

Loynesy wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

olij999 wrote:
I agree. Tyson just seems to say what is in his head and heart when he is asked - ask him on a different day and his answer may well be different. More interesting than being media-trained to the nth degree, though.

PS - love the separate geopolitical debate that has arisen - wouldn't get that kind of quality on CS...

I'll grant that, it's certainly unpredictable.

Yes, on the current scene there'd already be several people banned, and various threats and boasts about how much various people can bench thrown around, though I am worrying about Wesshaw turning up at my doorstep shouting pussy through my letterbox at this stage.

I can bench more than any former female leader of a Muslim country, particularly the dead ones.

I'll have a go against the male ones too, apart from Sultan Qaboos of Oman. He's ripped.

Stevieb8006 wrote:By getting out before he receives any physical damage. Understanding that health, and being there for your family is more important than potential future earnings ( given that he's loaded already). That could be considered an intelligent decision.

Stevieb8006 wrote:Also, pissing off the relentless critics that are literally itching to see him fail. (not you BF, we both know how you REALLY feel )

Horse wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:By getting out before he receives any physical damage. Understanding that health, and being there for your family is more important than potential future earnings ( given that he's loaded already). That could be considered an intelligent decision.

I wouldn't consider it to be an intelligent decision and I doubt that it would impress many.

Stevieb8006 wrote:Also, pissing off the relentless critics that are literally itching to see him fail. (not you BF, we both know how you REALLY feel )

Quitting could be seen as a form of failure.

Horse wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:By getting out before he receives any physical damage. Understanding that health, and being there for your family is more important than potential future earnings ( given that he's loaded already). That could be considered an intelligent decision.

I wouldn't consider it to be an intelligent decision and I doubt that it would impress many.

Stevieb8006 wrote:Also, pissing off the relentless critics that are literally itching to see him fail. (not you BF, we both know how you REALLY feel )

Quitting could be seen as a form of failure.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I disagree entirely Horse, I think people should do what they wish with their lives.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I disagree entirely Horse, I think people should do what they wish with their lives.

People can do what they want with their lives and others can judge them how they wish.

I would not be impressed if fury quit after his next fight.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fair do's - we have a difference of opinion on that, according to Wesshaw we need to now meet up and pummel the living daylights out of one another - or do we need to get really angry first, I'm never quite sure how this works, I just don't want to leave this debate feeling like a pussy.

Can someone advise on the next best course of action?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I disagree entirely Horse, I think people should do what they wish with their lives.

People can do what they want with their lives and others can judge them how they wish.

I would not be impressed if fury quit after his next fight.

Fair do's - we have a difference of opinion on that, according to Wesshaw we need to now meet up and pummel the living daylights out of one another - or do we need to get really angry first, I'm never quite sure how this works, I just don't want to leave this debate feeling like a pussy.

Can someone advise on the next best course of action?

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fair do's - we have a difference of opinion on that, according to Wesshaw we need to now meet up and pummel the living daylights out of one another - or do we need to get really angry first, I'm never quite sure how this works, I just don't want to leave this debate feeling like a pussy.

Can someone advise on the next best course of action?

I'm not passionate enough about it to fight yet.

I think we might just be a couple of pussies.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fair do's - we have a difference of opinion on that, according to Wesshaw we need to now meet up and pummel the living daylights out of one another - or do we need to get really angry first, I'm never quite sure how this works, I just don't want to leave this debate feeling like a pussy.

Can someone advise on the next best course of action?

I'm not passionate enough about it to fight yet.

I think we might just be a couple of pussies.

Stuarty30 wrote:

Horse wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:By getting out before he receives any physical damage. Understanding that health, and being there for your family is more important than potential future earnings ( given that he's loaded already). That could be considered an intelligent decision.

I wouldn't consider it to be an intelligent decision and I doubt that it would impress many.

Stevieb8006 wrote:Also, pissing off the relentless critics that are literally itching to see him fail. (not you BF, we both know how you REALLY feel )

Quitting could be seen as a form of failure.

If he were to beat Wlad again then quit he couldn't be seen as a failure. A disappointment? Maybe yeah. Unfulfilled potential? Definitely. But not a failure.

If he were to lose to Wlad then wrap it he would be seen as nothing more than a flash in the pan at world level IMO.

Autobarn wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Horse wrote:I wouldn't consider it to be an intelligent decision and I doubt that it would impress many.

Quitting could be seen as a form of failure.

If he were to beat Wlad again then quit he couldn't be seen as a failure. A disappointment? Maybe yeah. Unfulfilled potential? Definitely. But not a failure.

If he were to lose to Wlad then wrap it he would be seen as nothing more than a flash in the pan at world level IMO.

if he beats Wlad again then buffers off...

He'd be see as what Collins was to Benn and Eubank or what Tarver was to Jones Jr. The guy who could negate the top guy, but who didn't have a deep body of work himself. He'd be a part of history but not one of the major champions.

Autobarn wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Autobarn wrote:Very strange, very random. Hope he isn't throwing away the biggest prize in boxing. Hope he isn't giving Wlad a chance to resume one of the most tedious reigns in heavyweight history. Was really looking forward to Fury v Joshua, probably the biggest fight ever in British boxing history. Not to mention the biggest fight in the sport's current climate.

Maybe these burdens are too much for Tyson to carry?

Well at least let's hope he can get in good enough shape physically and mentally to negate Wlad again. Hope he doesn't get remembered as the guy who fluked one time vs Klitschko. Though if he does, he'll be well paid for it.


Interestingly, my prediction for Fury a few years ago was he'd make it to a Wlad fight, get destroyed, and retire a happy man on the payday as in haha, I got paid x million to get beaten up. Maybe I was just a fight or two late in my prediction?

It does seem he's rather mercurial - it could all be a wheeze, but I suspect not - not judging by the look on Mick Hennessy's face during their press conferences, clearly he's a creature of whim and stream of consciousness.

be a shame after all Hennessy's setbacks to lose the big earner, who holds the biggest prize.

Hope Fury can settle on a consistent mood.

He's only just scaled the top of the mountain, he still has doubters and I hope he doesn't throw it away and regret it later.

I mean the Joshua fight could be huge. They could fill a lot of people in an arena of course and the PPV over here and in the states given Joshua's Showtime contract.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I disagree entirely Horse, I think people should do what they wish with their lives.

People can do what they want with their lives and others can judge them how they wish.

I would not be impressed if fury quit after his next fight.