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freddydoesdallas wrote:

Webbo911 wrote:Anybody know how much he got paid?

Uk papers were talking crazy numbers. Think the commentary team mentioned $6 million.

Either way with what he's already earned before last night he can retire a happy man if he chooses.

I'd love to see him win a big, career defining fight before he called it a day though.

I'd favour Brook over Khan but not by loads. Garcia rematch would be tough but it's definitely winnable.

I've seen figures of $9m for canelo and $5m for Khan.

Do you think Khan has improved much since the first Garcia fight?

I think he's improved quite a bit since linking up with Virgil Hunter.

Also think Garcia might have regressed a little.

Garcia can bang a bit but he's no Canelo. Dangerous fight but still winnable.

TheCobra wrote:Fair play to Amir, quite a clever fight for him to take in a way. Sort of a no lose situation, he can now say, hey I was out of my weight class anyway, get me another big fight at my own weight. Will be quids in from last night in a big way and can go back to his own weight still with some sort of reputation intact.

As people have said, if he'd taken the Brook fight, he'd have probably got chinned and been finished, plus would have been on less money than last night. Good career management, although obviously still brave to take on Canelo, a shame Khan just doesn't have a good defence to match his hand speed.

It was a clever fight to take if you believe that getting knocked unconscious has no effect on his brain.
Shah Khan said he would have got a bigger purse for Brook (who Amir has always claimed would be an easy fight)

Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:

Supremo wrote:Total respect for Khan. The boy is a true fighter he will get in a ring with anyone and believes he an beat anyone. Folk can call him "chinny"? Watch his fight with Maidana again and see how "chinny" he is.
No shame in getting KOd by Canelo.

Khan, like Froch will retire knowing EXACTLY how good he is because he's tested himself to the limit against all comers.

Carl Frampton and Kell Brook and all these other "champions" are so risk averse they'll never know how good they were because all they are interested in protecting their value.

Well Khan hasn't tested himself against Brook has he....I'm sure Brook is more than willing

Yeah Brook has proved more than willing to fight the best throughout his career, his resume is incredible.

And who's he not wanted fight??

BigDoofus wrote:

TheCobra wrote:Fair play to Amir, quite a clever fight for him to take in a way. Sort of a no lose situation, he can now say, hey I was out of my weight class anyway, get me another big fight at my own weight. Will be quids in from last night in a big way and can go back to his own weight still with some sort of reputation intact.

As people have said, if he'd taken the Brook fight, he'd have probably got chinned and been finished, plus would have been on less money than last night. Good career management, although obviously still brave to take on Canelo, a shame Khan just doesn't have a good defence to match his hand speed.

It was a clever fight to take if you believe that getting knocked unconscious has no effect on his brain.
Shah Khan said he would have got a bigger purse for Brook (who Amir has always claimed would be an easy fight)

Is this true?

If so, Khan is a mug, especially if, like he keeps claiming, Brook is not in his league, although he is a mug with just over £2.5 million deposited in his bank account!!

BigDoofus wrote:

TheCobra wrote:Fair play to Amir, quite a clever fight for him to take in a way. Sort of a no lose situation, he can now say, hey I was out of my weight class anyway, get me another big fight at my own weight. Will be quids in from last night in a big way and can go back to his own weight still with some sort of reputation intact.

As people have said, if he'd taken the Brook fight, he'd have probably got chinned and been finished, plus would have been on less money than last night. Good career management, although obviously still brave to take on Canelo, a shame Khan just doesn't have a good defence to match his hand speed.

It was a clever fight to take if you believe that getting knocked unconscious has no effect on his brain.
Shah Khan said he would have got a bigger purse for Brook (who Amir has always claimed would be an easy fight)

I feel like this way he gets to take a Brook fight anyway if he wants it. Double bubble as he gets both big fight purses, nothing really lost by getting KO-d by Canelo in terms of stature as he can use the weight difference all day long and talk about how brave he's been stepping up versus how Brook hasn't fought anyone. Brook KOs him anyway, anyone genuinely at world level with a decent dig KOs him, that's Amir Khan's career for you. He's beat fringe contenders and that's it really.

Who knows what effect the KO might have on his brain, but at least he didn't take a beating, it was a simple one punch KO and generally fighters seem to do better from that than a beating.

TheCobra wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:

TheCobra wrote:Fair play to Amir, quite a clever fight for him to take in a way. Sort of a no lose situation, he can now say, hey I was out of my weight class anyway, get me another big fight at my own weight. Will be quids in from last night in a big way and can go back to his own weight still with some sort of reputation intact.

As people have said, if he'd taken the Brook fight, he'd have probably got chinned and been finished, plus would have been on less money than last night. Good career management, although obviously still brave to take on Canelo, a shame Khan just doesn't have a good defence to match his hand speed.

It was a clever fight to take if you believe that getting knocked unconscious has no effect on his brain.
Shah Khan said he would have got a bigger purse for Brook (who Amir has always claimed would be an easy fight)

I feel like this way he gets to take a Brook fight anyway if he wants it. Double bubble as he gets both big fight purses, nothing really lost by getting KO-d by Canelo in terms of stature as he can use the weight difference all day long and talk about how brave he's been stepping up versus how Brook hasn't fought anyone. Brook KOs him anyway, anyone genuinely at world level with a decent dig KOs him, that's Amir Khan's career for you. He's beat fringe contenders and that's it really.

Who knows what effect the KO might have on his brain, but at least he didn't take a beating, it was a simple one punch KO and generally fighters seem to do better from that than a beating.

Being knocked out does have proven long term effects on the brain. There's a direct correlation between the number of incidents rendered unconscious and changes to brain function, it differs of course from person to person, but it's clearly a very high risk thing to happen to you.

Khan was definitely punched into insensibility, he really looked out of it when he finally came round, as bad a KO as any I've seen, from a thunderous punch.

Stuarty30 wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it but the thing is he's been backed in to a corner now and a lot of folk from Canelos camp are going to look stupid if it doesn't happen. GGG would wipe the floor with him.

I think he will have to fight him, he'll be branded a coward by his own countrymen if he doesn't.

After his comments last night he has to. I just don't see how he gets round it without looking a total bottle merchant. I think Canelo would take the fight. It's Oscar and the other greedy pudenda around him that don't want it to happen because they know what's gonna happen.

Exactly, he must be getting pissed off with people calling him a bottle job, he has to demand the fight.

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote: I think he will have to fight him, he'll be branded a coward by his own countrymen if he doesn't.

After his comments last night he has to. I just don't see how he gets round it without looking a total bottle merchant. I think Canelo would take the fight. It's Oscar and the other greedy pudenda around him that don't want it to happen because they know what's gonna happen.

Exactly, he must be getting pissed off with people calling him a bottle job, he has to demand the fight.

I think he'd lose so much face in front of his Mexican fan base, it would be hard to live with.

Naandrew wrote:Just watched the fight he was well into it until the sickening Ko punch.

Slate Khan all you want but at least he shows a desire to fight the best and follows through unlike certain fighters in this country.

I think that's the last we have seen of him to be honest.

He is desirous to fight the best only when the very best payday is on offer imo .

He wanted mayweather or pac....he couldn't have them....so he fights canelo and shuts him out 4 rounds than wilts for 1 and a half before being brutally knocked out with one punch.

The big big big problem with khan is u could see the same pattern playing out against any top 5 147 fighter in any era in the 30 years i been watching boxing...his chin goes waay beyond hearns whose name is very unfairly mentioned here......hearns had a very good chin for his prime

Boxerbeetle wrote:No fvcking way does Canelo fight GGG. He looked crap last night, ko punch notwithstanding.

Ive never rated canelo .hes just a big weight draining LM with goldenboy pushing him as the big mexican hero but he presides over a very very weak LM division. GGG will win every second and knock him out.

Canelo would have been taken by light middles like a shot don Curry or wilfred benitez in the past

Switch hitter wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:
Well Khan hasn't tested himself against Brook has he....I'm sure Brook is more than willing

Yeah Brook has proved more than willing to fight the best throughout his career, his resume is incredible.

And who's he not wanted fight??

I'd say there's a significant difference between 'wanting' to fight the best opposition and actively seeking out the best opposition...

Syntax Error wrote:Good on him for trying, but I just hope he doesn't spend the next 18 months lying idle before announcing he's secured a shot at Adonis Stevenson!

dalcumly wrote:Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.

he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight

Taansend wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:Good on him for trying, but I just hope he doesn't spend the next 18 months lying idle before announcing he's secured a shot at Adonis Stevenson!

Yes that was a good one

When Mayweather yanked his chain he shouldn’t have hung around like a jilted lover. Simply say “screw that” and move on.

On the topic thread, I'm not sure we should necessarily 'big up' Khan.. I suspect a lot of his bravery is really just stupidity, and this is one of the reasons he gets chinned all the time...

Anzi wrote:

dalcumly wrote:Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.

he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight

Bradley moved up to get his "win" over Pacquiao 7 months after Khan lost his title to Peterson and a month before Khan got KO'd by Garcia. Bradley remained unbeaten defending his welter title for another 2 years whilst Khan fought Molina and Diaz.

Anzi wrote:

dalcumly wrote:Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.

he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight

He did lose twice at the weight and never tried to avenge them. Garcia was the no1 after bradley

reggaereggae wrote:On the topic thread, I'm not sure we should necessarily 'big up' Khan.. I suspect a lot of his bravery is really just stupidity, and this is one of the reasons he gets chinned all the time...

Harsh, but I agree. The reason no one had thought of Canelo v Khan was because elite fighters dont normally defend against people two weight divisions below them. Khan was the pretty girl in the nightclub at 1.50am after her friends have already paired off. Desperate to save face, she goes off with Winston the 7ft roid taking doorman and ends up getting her ar se destroyed in a night of savage butt love.

Anyone slagging off Khan is trash.

Great fighter.

Horse wrote:Anyone slagging off Khan is trash.

Great fighter.

You're using the term 'great' rather loosely there Horse but I expect you're being deliberately provocative as usual.

veriton wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:On the topic thread, I'm not sure we should necessarily 'big up' Khan.. I suspect a lot of his bravery is really just stupidity, and this is one of the reasons he gets chinned all the time...

Harsh, but I agree. The reason no one had thought of Canelo v Khan was because elite fighters dont normally defend against people two weight divisions below them. Khan was the pretty girl in the nightclub at 1.50am after her friends have already paired off. Desperate to save face, she goes off with Winston the 7ft roid taking doorman and ends up getting her ar se destroyed in a night of savage butt love.

Yes Khan has never seemed the sharpest tool in the box, and even though he is a sharp puncher at a certain level, he has always seemed to believe he's a devastating banger with a concrete chin.....

Horse wrote:Anyone slagging off Khan is trash.

Great fighter.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:
Yeah Brook has proved more than willing to fight the best throughout his career, his resume is incredible.

And who's he not wanted fight??

I'd say there's a significant difference between 'wanting' to fight the best opposition and actively seeking out the best opposition...

Apart from Canelo....when was the best opposition

BigDoofus wrote:While we're at it let's big up Matthew Hatton for going the distance with Alvarez and Ryan Rhodes who got floored in the 4th but dug in and lasted until the 12th round.

No disrespect to Matthew Hatton or Ryan Rhodes but Canelo has improved a lot since he fought them. Canelo is a lot stronger, punches harder and is technically better.