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Yeah i figure youre right. If fury dragged him into late rounds then its deffo his advantage

I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

http://www.floboxing.tv/article/37755-b ... -klitschko

BitPlayer wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

http://www.floboxing.tv/article/37755-b ... -klitschko

The Lampley quote in that article actually summed it up rather well for me:

"If you look at . . . the unofficial scorecard from Harold Lederman--if you just joined us you may be thinking, ‘What a great performance from Fury.’ No. It’s a dreadful performance from Wladimir Klitschko.”

Boxerbeetle wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

http://www.floboxing.tv/article/37755-b ... -klitschko

The Lampley quote in that article actually summed it up rather well for me:

"If you look at . . . the unofficial scorecard from Harold Lederman--if you just joined us you may be thinking, ‘What a great performance from Fury.’ No. It’s a dreadful performance from Wladimir Klitschko.”

Haha yeah.

At the end of the day it's just an article by 'some guy' who has a viewpoint. Yes, Fury bobbed and weaved and was a moving target. But he DID present numerous chances for Wlad to land (hands on ropes, hands behind back, waving in the air) and Wlad didn't capitalise. Because he really was terrible

Although I admit that Fury ducking under Wlad's grab and clattering him with that left hook was an awesome move. Would have been funny if he pulled that off again afterwards, or knocked Wlad out with it.

I wasn't proclaiming it as some authority, he just did a good job of explaining it, and it was much easier.

AJ to Fury "when he's ready, I'm ready" - http://www.BS.com/anthony-josh ... dy--105889

BitPlayer wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

http://www.floboxing.tv/article/37755-b ... -klitschko

Good article.

does AJs performance against Breazeale tonight change anybodys thoughts on the outcome of a potential fight with Fury?

clopixolacuphase wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I don't dislike Fury at all, but I do find it odd that he's suddenly being lauded as a defensive genius just because he danced around for a bit against a man who barely threw a punch all night.

http://www.floboxing.tv/article/37755-b ... -klitschko

Good article.

Yep excellent breakdown.

Joshua with ease

Got to say I think AJ takes this. His speed & movement would give the plodding Fury fits, plus chuck in Joshua's power & Tyson's suspect chin & I can't even see it being a tough night for him.

This was quite a funny thread to read through. So far I've identified two sets of contributors that have described both fighters at some point as 'plodders'. Sounds like a terrible fight!

Let's be honest here, when fully fit, neither fighter is a plodder. For his size, Fury demonstrates very nimble feet, good evasive action, and excellent bobbing head movement. He also has a 3 inch reach advantage, and can box with his jab at range or box very effectively on the inside.

However, Joshua is no mug. He probably possesses one of the hardest punches in the division, and he's very good at closing down his man. He's aggressive, and barely goes a round without catching his man at least once. He definitely showed some improvement in the Breazeale fight. I thought there was a big improvement on his head movement, and he learned to be a bit more patient (which he'd need vs. Fury). However he did look a little jaded, but I guess that was to be expected off the back of two consecutive camps.

Okay, closing down someone who doesn't move that much won't go down as the most impressive feat, but neither is defending against a man who doesn't throw a punch. I have no idea what happened with Klitchko (there's a few prevailing theories), but it seemed very out of character to not throw punches in anger, even when rounds were running out.

I just feel that Joshua wins this fight simply because I don't believe Fury can avoid Joshua for 12 rounds and don't believe he has the punching power to end it early.

Joshua to win by KO early second half of the fight.

moogie101 wrote:Got to say I think AJ takes this. His speed & movement would give the plodding Fury fits, plus chuck in Joshua's power & Tyson's suspect chin & I can't even see it being a tough night for him.

Fury has much better than footwork. Fury largely beat Wlad with footwork and I don't think Joshua's is nearly as good as Wlad's.

#Gypsyking ‏@Tyson_Fury - 22h

This year oct bitch Wlad. March 2017 weightlifter AJ, summer 2017 hollow wilder, let's make this happen, let's dance, pussys,

wesshaw1985 wrote:#Gypsyking ‏@Tyson_Fury - 22h

This year oct bitch Wlad. March 2017 weightlifter AJ, summer 2017 hollow wilder, let's make this happen, let's dance, pussys,

Hollow Wilder I don't care what anyone says, Fury is a funny fvcker

moogie101 wrote:Got to say I think AJ takes this. His speed & movement would give the plodding Fury fits, plus chuck in Joshua's power & Tyson's suspect chin & I can't even see it being a tough night for him.

"the plodding Fury" - Fury is not plodding.

"Tyson's suspect chin" - Tyson has been smashed loads. Even when he's knocked down and hurt it doesn't seem to bother him. He just gets up and fights on. And wins.

AJ's got a puncher's chance against anyone, but right now Fury wins fairly comfortably.

in 3 years time IF AJ answers the questions and keeps improving... things might be very different.

after stopping Molina, has anybodys opinions on this fight changed?

wesshaw1985 wrote:after stopping Molina, has anybodys opinions on this fight changed?

Yes,

Nobody bumps their own threads more than Wesshaw

davie wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:after stopping Molina, has anybodys opinions on this fight changed?

Yes,

Nobody bumps their own threads more than Wesshaw

cracking threads though, you've gotto admit...

wesshaw1985 wrote:

davie wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:after stopping Molina, has anybodys opinions on this fight changed?

Yes,

Nobody bumps their own threads more than Wesshaw

cracking threads though, you've gotto admit...

Nobody does them better Wes

davie wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:

davie wrote: Yes,

Nobody bumps their own threads more than Wesshaw

cracking threads though, you've gotto admit...

Nobody does them better Wes

I aim to please

I said Joshua wins it before, and still think he does.

That's if Fury ever steps in the ring again, which I don't think he does.

AJ

Tyson Fury has no interest in being a great fighter, AJ might be one before long, and is probably 4 months away from beating Wladimir much more conclusively than Fury did.

For the record I'd have been picking Joshua to win this fight even if you'd asked me a year ago. Fury never has impressed me.