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Kalan wrote:

SFW wrote: Povetkin was suspicious long before he tested positive for a banned substance. He got caught. Everything said since the moment he actually got caught doing what many have suspected, has been damage control

You're really stupid... He wasn't caught because he always PASSED EVERY PED test. There is proof beyond any question that Povetkin passed all his tests with flying colors.. His concentrations were 7% of what an allowable concentration of Meldonium is.. So you are simply stupid.. He had traces of Meldonium.. YOU have traces of arsenic in your blood.. You have traces of Strontium-90 in your system.. Enough to cause cancer?? Probably not.. You probably have problematic traces of chlorine in your blood.. The drinking of chlorinated water has been officially linked to a 38% increased incidence of cancer but we still purify our water with it or worse would happen to us. There's still an allowable standard of 4 ppm.. The thing is tests are sensitive. Everyone has a trace of about everything.. but if it falls below the standard it's safe to eat or drink or you pass the test.

Kalan wrote:

jujigatame wrote:[Wait, you're now claiming that Deontay Wilder has not been training in England?

He never flew to Eastern Europe... England is not even part of the European Union or mainland and it's a long way from Russia... There are many stories in the media that he flew to Russia and he never did... You would think he would fly there to get acclimated to the time zone so that is another thing that is really suspicious... They were cooking up this PED scheme and didn't let him even fly in to Russia to acclimate.

Kalan wrote:

Cygnus475 wrote:If they were gonna rig the test they would have found way more of the stuff in the results. And the amount allowed doesn't matter if it's rigged--you can't have it both ways. This is the same guy who said wilt Chamberlin would have easily beaten Ali with 6 months of training and that Anthony Joshua hits harder than george foreman.

They DIDN'T RIG any test you idiot... Povetkin had 1/15th of the allowable concentration in his blood so he PASSED the test... They're not talking about WHETHER Povetkin passed or failed the test idiot... They KNOW he PASSED the test.. He had an allowable trace of Meldonium in his blood and they're saying he had it in his blood so they have to do further checking and they don't have to... They're not saying how much of it the test found they NOT telling you it was below the allowable concentration because that would be a LIE.. They're They're NOT saying he failed the test because THAT would be a LIE.. NO testing organization is claiming Povetkin failed ANY test... They're postponing the fight and doing a further investigation. For what??? Because they're abusing they're power and they want to KILL the fight. If they try that they'll end up in court.

And if you don't agree that Wilt would beat Ali with 6 months of training by world class trainers, or that Joshua punches harder than Foreman state your stupid argument.. You have none.. Ali wouldn't sign the painstakingly negotiated contract to fight Chamberlain so he KNEW he'd get knocked out.. And in Foreman's 16th pro fight he couldn't knock out a Light Heavyweight - who was previously beaten 5 times and knocked out twice. It was the 3rd time an opponent with previous KO losses went the distance with Foreman.. In Joshua 16th pro fight he won a World Heavyweight Title over a big heavyweight who'd never been beaten or knocked down before, and it was his 16th straight KO in 16 fights.

"The Povetkin-Wilder fight is not off but it is postponed - because of the screwed up misrepresentation of the negative test results by the WBC and VADA... VADA is mixed up with ex-con Victor Conte. The con artist who was imprisoned for steroid and PED pushing and distribution."

Kalan wrote:The WBC postponed the fight because they could.

Kalan wrote:[quote="Cygnus475]-his test was negative and there is simply a delay, which is it??? ... I'm guessing you think conor McGregor with eddie Futch in his corner would beat mayweather? ... Foreman has knocked out plenty of fighters that would pick Martin apart

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Wilt Chamberlin - hahahaha - too funny. Oh you really are a mentalist.

jujigatame wrote:

Kalan wrote:The WBC postponed the fight because they could.

Why would they do this? The entire way they make money is by charging sanctioning fees when fights happen? You're saying they were paid by Wilder's camp to cancel the fight and the positive test was just a convenient excuse?

Kalan wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Wilt Chamberlin - hahahaha - too funny. Oh you really are a mentalist.

You're an idiot. Chamberlain and Ali promoted the fight on TV, radio, gave interviews about it, and their legal teams painstakingly negotiated a contract for them to fight. It was promising to be the richest fight of all time and it was more than 6 months away. All that needed to happen was Ali signing the contract for worldwide headlines to scream "ALI vs CHAMBERLAIN IS ON!!!! ... It was massive money for both fighters but Ali REFUSED to sign the painstakingly hammered out agreement that would have put him on a collision course with history.

Why do fighters such as Ali.. Bowe.. Canelo.. Cotto.. Martinez.. Stevenson.. Santa Cruz.. Frampton.. Saunders.. Froch.. Chavez.. and Khan talk big about fighting extremely dangerous fighters - for BIG money in fights that the public desperately WANTS to see ... but then CHICKEN OUT and fight an extremely weak opponent in a fight that NOBODY is really anxious to see????? I'll let you figure that one out ..... but on second thought you may be a big Canelo fan so I'll help you out... THEY'RE CHICKENSHIT!!!!

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Kalan wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Wilt Chamberlin - hahahaha - too funny. Oh you really are a mentalist.

You're an idiot. Chamberlain and Ali promoted the fight on TV, radio, gave interviews about it, and their legal teams painstakingly negotiated a contract for them to fight. It was promising to be the richest fight of all time and it was more than 6 months away. All that needed to happen was Ali signing the contract for worldwide headlines to scream "ALI vs CHAMBERLAIN IS ON!!!! ... It was massive money for both fighters but Ali REFUSED to sign the painstakingly hammered out agreement that would have put him on a collision course with history.

Why do fighters such as Ali.. Bowe.. Canelo.. Cotto.. Martinez.. Stevenson.. Santa Cruz.. Frampton.. Saunders.. Froch.. Chavez.. and Khan talk big about fighting extremely dangerous fighters - for BIG money in fights that the public desperately WANTS to see ... but then CHICKEN OUT and fight an extremely weak opponent in a fight that NOBODY is really anxious to see????? I'll let you figure that one out ..... but on second thought you may be a big Canelo fan so I'll help you out... THEY'RE CHICKENSHIT!!!!

You're delusional mate.

Chamberlain had zero experience as a fighter, Ali would have slapped him stupid.

The whole thing was nothing more than a publicity stunt, no matter how good an athelete Wilt was, he wasn't a fighter, and certainly not of Ali's calibre. It would have been a merciless beating.

Anyone questioning Ali's bravery is an absolute pillock of the highest order, the guy faced off against no fewer than 4 ATG's in his career, one of them right at the end of his career when he was way past his best.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Anyone questioning Ali's bravery is an absolute pillock of the highest order, the guy faced off against no fewer than 4 ATG's in his career, one of them right at the end of his career when he was way past his best.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Kalan wrote:
You're an idiot. Chamberlain and Ali promoted the fight on TV, radio, gave interviews about it, and their legal teams painstakingly negotiated a contract for them to fight. It was promising to be the richest fight of all time and it was more than 6 months away. All that needed to happen was Ali signing the contract for worldwide headlines to scream "ALI vs CHAMBERLAIN IS ON!!!! ... It was massive money for both fighters but Ali REFUSED to sign the painstakingly hammered out agreement that would have put him on a collision course with history.

Why do fighters such as Ali.. Bowe.. Canelo.. Cotto.. Martinez.. Stevenson.. Santa Cruz.. Frampton.. Saunders.. Froch.. Chavez.. and Khan talk big about fighting extremely dangerous fighters - for BIG money in fights that the public desperately WANTS to see ... but then CHICKEN OUT and fight an extremely weak opponent in a fight that NOBODY is really anxious to see????? I'll let you figure that one out ..... but on second thought you may be a big Canelo fan so I'll help you out... THEY'RE CHICKENSHIT!!!!

You're delusional mate.

Chamberlain had zero experience as a fighter, Ali would have slapped him stupid.

The whole thing was nothing more than a publicity stunt, no matter how good an athelete Wilt was, he wasn't a fighter, and certainly not of Ali's calibre. It would have been a merciless beating.

Anyone questioning Ali's bravery is an absolute pillock of the highest order, the guy faced off against no fewer than 4 ATG's in his career, one of them right at the end of his career when he was way past his best.

If I may offer some advice...

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
You're delusional mate.

Chamberlain had zero experience as a fighter, Ali would have slapped him stupid.

The whole thing was nothing more than a publicity stunt, no matter how good an athelete Wilt was, he wasn't a fighter, and certainly not of Ali's calibre. It would have been a merciless beating.

Anyone questioning Ali's bravery is an absolute pillock of the highest order, the guy faced off against no fewer than 4 ATG's in his career, one of them right at the end of his career when he was way past his best.

If I may offer some advice...

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You are, as is oft the case, correct saad. A fool indeed i am.

Kalan wrote:If Chamberlain vs Ali was just a massive publicity stunt, why did Chamberlain hire Cus D"Amato to train him and start lining up sparring partners, and start running 10 miles on the beach??? Wilt was extremely serious about this endeavor... Wilt saw the Ali-Chuvalo fight where Chuvalo took a million punches from Ali without being hurt, dropped, or even bothered too much... Chuvalo was only 216 with no defense... Chamberlain at 7'1" X 290 was much harder to reach with a punch by a little 6'3" guy ... Chuvalo had no jab.. Chamberlain had a jab like a lance knocking you off a horse... Chuvalo had no right hand... Chamberlain had a flashing right hand that knocked 250-pound power forward Clyde Lovellette coo coo.. Chuvalo had no speed.. Wilt was one of the fastest guys in the NBA, a league of speed demons where less than one basketball player in 100 ever set foot on an NBA court... All-in-all Chamberlain loved his chances... Ali hated his chances.

This is the wrong thread but it's to answer these notions that Chamberlain-Ali didn't have lawyers negotiate and draw up a legal contract to fight.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:and why did he pull out of the fight? Read the article.

Badhusker wrote:Kalan,


Please have a cup of STFU, from all of us at boxrec

Badhusker wrote:Kalan,


Please have a cup of STFU, from all of us at boxrec

Kalan wrote: Povetkin PASSED THE TEST idiot... Povetkin's Meldonium level was 15 X LESS than the allowable concentration. If you're a drug kingpin why would you sent assassins in to wipe out rival drug runners???? If you own an auto repair shop why would you hire a hitman to kill the owner of a rival auto repair shop???? If you're a millionaire boxing promoter, why wouldn't you bribe the WBC (they've been bribed before and so have other boxing orgs) to disrupt and kill the promotion of a rival promoter who outbid you by a tremendous amount for an extremely important fight you wanted to stage???? Especially if their boxer is a threat to beat your boxer. Wilder is the only remaining American Heavyweight Champion - because your fighter Charles Martin just went to England to get destroyed by Anthony Joshua!!!!! Do you want that to happen again???? If Wilder gets beaten by Povetkin you'll lose a very valuable property who could potentially bring in 100's of millions in Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fights - if you could win the promotion... so you try to destroy the reputations of Povetkin as a boxer and Russia as a Boxing venue for American boxers to travel to.