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Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:23
by Freedom2013
asdfjkl wrote:I thought this guy wasn't in the WBC top 15? Next to that, unlike Povetkin, he recently failed a drugstest??
But he's managed by Al Haymon. That makes it okay.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:26
by Tanzio
Freedom2013 wrote:Did someone pay off VADA to save Wilder from Povetkin?

The WBC threw away the positive test result for Durodola, claiming something shady was going on with the Russian testing.

It seems to me far more likely something dishonest is going on with the American testing and Povetkin's results.
Why?

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:29
by asdfjkl
Freedom2013 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I thought this guy wasn't in the WBC top 15? Next to that, unlike Povetkin, he recently failed a drugstest??
But he's managed by Al Haymon. That makes it okay.
Ah, oke that explains a lot. They just fool the American crowd to make money and know they can't fool the Russian crowd and next to that Povetkin fights less? Which would give the WBC less money?

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:35
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I thought this guy wasn't in the WBC top 15? Next to that, unlike Povetkin, he recently failed a drugstest??
But he's managed by Al Haymon. That makes it okay.
Ah, oke that explains a lot. They just fool the American crowd to make money and know they can't fool the Russian crowd and next to that Povetkin fights less? Which would give the WBC less money?
Looks like he will be fighting a whole lot less :OhYes:

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:41
by asdfjkl
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:But he's managed by Al Haymon. That makes it okay.
Ah, oke that explains a lot. They just fool the American crowd to make money and know they can't fool the Russian crowd and next to that Povetkin fights less? Which would give the WBC less money?
Looks like he will be fighting a whole lot less :OhYes:
Twice a year, this year he had an opponend who managed to avoid him, so this year once a year I guess.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 21:47
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Ah, oke that explains a lot. They just fool the American crowd to make money and know they can't fool the Russian crowd and next to that Povetkin fights less? Which would give the WBC less money?
Looks like he will be fighting a whole lot less :OhYes:
Twice a year, this year he had an opponend who managed to avoid him, so this year once a year I guess.
Hopefully. I like Povetkin. But that might be wishful thinking at this point.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 22:28
by jujigatame
Freedom2013 wrote:
jujigatame wrote:You keep repeating that 70 nanograms is less than 1 microgram, and keep ignoring the fact that the amount in his blood went UP between tests.
What you fail to understand: it didn't necessarily go up. The amount is tiny, a TRACE - it can easily be missed, and found later because it's just a trace.

You really don't seem to understand, that's why people "keep repeating". :witzend:
Except you can't back that up. The idea that test results can vary by upwards of 70 nanograms is something that you appear to have decided is true just because "nanograms are like, really small".

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 22:31
by boxing_rocks
Now Bute tested positive: http://www.spam.com/news/article24942.html?

They are all taking stuff.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 26 May 2016, 23:08
by Kalan
boxing_rocks wrote:Now Bute tested positive: They are all taking stuff.
Right... Just paint with a broad brush and say if one guy is taking they're all taking. Don't try to make sense. You know, I don't think most athletes cheat. I think they try to abide by the rules and we have some cheats who are boxers. But most of the cheats are promoters, orgs, managers, advisors, and people who are desperately trying to control the sport. And they will do anything and say anything to realize their agenda - which is to destroy rival promoters, managers, venues, and boxers anyway they can - including spreading stories they're drug cheats when they're not.. This might take a year to play out.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:32
by Badhusker
Kalan, You are a irritating dumbass. How many threads do you need to start about the same damn thing? You are worse than a broken record. Get Povetkins nuts off your chin. You are probably the only one on this site that doesn't see how stupid you are....except for your retarded twin brother.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:43
by armageto
Kalan wrote:
armageto wrote:It "might"have been an honest mistake, maybe he didn't know it was on the banned list, perhaps? He should be punished either way and Wilder should just move on for the time being.
Honest mistake??? It's like people are deaf, dumb, ignorant, and can't read. He knew it was going on the banned list when they announced it was going on the banned list and he stopped taking it immediately.. And all his tests are consistent with his claim that he stopped taking it immediately when it was announced that it was going on the banned list...
Was trying my best to give the man a cover. If he stopped taking it when it was banned,that means he wouldn't have taken any this year, correct? Bad news, I talked to somebody that works in a drug testing facility. To the best of their knowledge, he wouldn't have had any signs of it still in his system that amount of time later. The B sample proves that to be true.

What you need to do is stop with your posts Bill until it is all settled. As of right now, it's not looking good for Povetkin.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 00:43
by armageto
Badhusker wrote:Kalan, You are a irritating dumbass. How many threads do you need to start about the same damn thing? You are worse than a broken record. Get Povetkins nuts off your chin. You are probably the only one on this site that doesn't see how stupid you are....except for your retarded twin brother.

:TU:

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 01:37
by Kalan
Badhusker wrote:Kalan, You are a irritating dumbass. How many threads do you need to start about the same damn thing? You are worse than a broken record. Get Povetkins nuts off your chin. You are probably the only one on this site that doesn't see how stupid you are....except for your retarded twin brother.
Go screw yourself you stupid bastard. You don't have 70 nanometers of common sense.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 01:43
by Kalan
armageto wrote:I talked to somebody that works in a drug testing facility. To the best of their knowledge, he wouldn't have had any signs of it still in his system that amount of time later. The B sample proves that to be true
You too idiot.. You just make crap up and write it. You talked to somebody who works in a drug testing facility on Mars most likely.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 03:17
by greg
...still waiting for this B sample...if it confirms the previous result, things won't look good for Povetkin...

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 05:06
by ttornado
Kalan wrote:
ttornado wrote:
Kalan wrote: timeframe Povetkin was tested during was 1 microgram.. "
Not true, Povetkin was tested in April, this limit ended in February
You don't know what you're talking about.. The limit became 1 microgram.. Previously It was higher.. And the number of nanograms can vary depending on your degree of hydration.. Or you might test clear if you have an extremely negligible amount and are well hydrated.. That is data is immaterial.. The material questions are 1. What is the allowable concentration??? 2. Were you above it or below it??? ... Povetkin was always below the allowable concentration.. So much so that he passed with ease.
Passed? He failed the test and is provisionally suspended.
b. If the concentration is below 1 µg/mL and the test was taken after 1 March given
that the results of ongoing excretion studies are needed to determine the time of
the ingestion.
The following options may be followed, at the discretion of the Results Management
Authority when the results management is stayed:
i. The athlete continues serving his or her provisional suspension until the
excretion studies results are available and a decision can be taken.
ii. The provisional suspension is lifted. However, in this case, the athlete shall
be informed that if it is later established based on the results of the
excretion studies that he/she did take the drug on or after 1 January 2016,
(i) all the results during the period in which the provisional suspension is
lifted may be cancelled and prizes returned, and (ii) the ineligibility period
ultimately imposed is likely to start on the date of the decision (with a credit
for the provisional suspension already served).

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 09:59
by armageto
Kalan wrote:
armageto wrote:I talked to somebody that works in a drug testing facility. To the best of their knowledge, he wouldn't have had any signs of it still in his system that amount of time later. The B sample proves that to be true
You too idiot.. You just make crap up and write it. You talked to somebody who works in a drug testing facility on Mars most likely.

Looking at your posts, you are now the worst poster on this board. Congrats you moron, that is a tough feat to accomplish. Yet, you have done so Bill. You've made your family proud sir. They are probably committing mass suicide just to get away from your stupidity. Hopefully you join your boxing hero Wilt, get aids, and die. It won't be from sex with vast amounts of women I'm sure, sex with men is right up your alley, or ass, isn't it Bill? To the ignore list you go, so I don't have to read your stupidity anymore. Fucks your mother and have a wonderful day good sir.....

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 09:59
by armageto
greg wrote:...still waiting for this B sample...if it confirms the previous result, things won't look good for Povetkin...
It was tested and he didn't pass...

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 11:21
by greg
armageto wrote:
greg wrote:...still waiting for this B sample...if it confirms the previous result, things won't look good for Povetkin...
It was tested and he didn't pass...
..yep, I got that..those other tests in april, do we know if they checked him for substances including meldonium?..if that's the case, I can think of only one logical explanation...

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 11:33
by SFW
armageto wrote:
Kalan wrote:
armageto wrote:I talked to somebody that works in a drug testing facility. To the best of their knowledge, he wouldn't have had any signs of it still in his system that amount of time later. The B sample proves that to be true
You too idiot.. You just make crap up and write it. You talked to somebody who works in a drug testing facility on Mars most likely.

Looking at your posts, you are now the worst poster on this board. Congrats you moron, that is a tough feat to accomplish. Yet, you have done so Bill. You've made your family proud sir. They are probably committing mass suicide just to get away from your stupidity. Hopefully you join your boxing hero Wilt, get aids, and die. It won't be from sex with vast amounts of women I'm sure, sex with men is right up your alley, or ass, isn't it Bill? To the ignore list you go, so I don't have to read your stupidity anymore. Fucks your mother and have a wonderful day good sir.....[/
armageto wrote:
greg wrote:...still waiting for this B sample...if it confirms the previous result, things won't look good for Povetkin...
It was tested and he didn't pass...
shh, that fact conflicts with this Narnia-esque web of bullshit being spun so eloquently.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:22
by Kalan
SFW wrote:shh, that fact conflicts with this Narnia-esque web of bullshit being spun so eloquently.
Especially since Povetkin never asked for his B sample to be tested... It was tested as another ploy to smear Povetkin with innuendo because he easily passed his A sample and his B sample was going to be exactly the same. A minute trace of Meldonium WAY below the allowable concentration for that time ... which is anything below 1 microgram. These treacherous lying bastards are getting away with this ... so far.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:37
by Ilya Muromets
The whole boxing setup is totally corrupt, WBC and the other alphabets, that Las Vegas NeVADA drug testing outfit with mobbed up Doctor Irene Goodman, these ridiculous staged Haye exhibitions billed as real shoots, Letsgochamps' staged and scripted film clips with Wlad and now Haye, all the crooked refereeing and judging and matchmaking and tv shilling. A lot of people are getting thoroughly sick of boxing now.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:39
by Ilya Muromets
What we need to happen in for Russia to pull out of the corrupt western alphabet things and start their own boxing organization, and China and the other BRIC nations can join in, and they can make boxing a real sport again.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:49
by jujigatame
Yea, China and Russia are totally free of corruption. Great idea.

Re: THE CORRUPT WBC SLIDES WILDER PAST POVETKIN

Posted: 27 May 2016, 12:56
by greg
x2x wrote:What we need to happen in for Russia to pull out of the corrupt western alphabet things and start their own boxing organization, and China and the other BRIC nations can join in, and they can make boxing a real sport again.
--are you kidding, even if we assume that "the western alphabet things" are corrupt as you say...we just replace one corrupt system with the other system, which is probably even more corrupt..