Haye accepts Bellew's challenge

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Autobarn wrote:Well it looks like Bellew has calmed down. We all know he does get emotional. Winning the world title made him more emotional, it seems. The title will be everything for Bomber and he'll have a job on his hands keeping it.

Haye is kind of passive-aggressive the way he promotes himself. He gets called out by people who act insane, like Briggs and Bellew, then seems like the most reasonable guy in the world when he accepts their challenge so he can defend himself from being bad mouthed.

Hate to say is, but I am starting to find it all very, very funny. If it was Haye vs Bellew fighting at say 213-pounds or thereabouts, their personalities would really grab headlines and make it a huge event - but probably not much of a contest.

If it happened you'd think it is like a beefed up version of Haye v Maccarinelli.

"YOU MUST HAVE LOST YOUR GODDAMNED MIND!" - can't stop laughing at that video
Yeah, think Bellew got caught up in the heat of the moment, he'd get properly clattered. I mean he'd have a slim chance of landing big and winning, but it would be very slim.
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ILikeBeer wrote:
Controversial wrote:Wilder's team ruled Haye out as a replacement for Povetkin because they think he hasn't beaten anyone and needs to step up to get a chance, Haye isn't doing himself any favours with these type of fights.
Haye should ask Wilder who he's fought. :lol:
Wilder is full of bullshit, who has Duhaupas ever beaten? Especially at the time. Who has Szpilka ever beaten?

If Haye beats Briggs, he simply fought beated better competition as Wilder ever has.
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asdfjkl wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:
Controversial wrote:Wilder's team ruled Haye out as a replacement for Povetkin because they think he hasn't beaten anyone and needs to step up to get a chance, Haye isn't doing himself any favours with these type of fights.
Haye should ask Wilder who he's fought. :lol:
Wilder is full of bullshit, who has Duhaupas ever beaten? Especially at the time. Who has Szpilka ever beaten?

If Haye beats Briggs, he simply fought beated better competition as Wilder ever has.
You're slipping. It should be "who had Duhaupas ever BEATED? Who has Szpilka ever BEATED?" You're forgetting to make your purposefully irritating mistakes, and thus you need to get back on your trolling game.

It's good to see you remembered to use "as" instead of "than" though.
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Sorry if has been already mentioned but match could be made at catch weight, or at least a designated weight limit, but still at heavyweight .

EG the contract starts that neither combatant must weigh over 210 lbs or get penalised in some way. And match could be called off if one combatant weighs than EG 215lbs.

Now you have a big fight (with a 'stacked' undercard of course!) with loads of press and colourful press conferences and quotes..... both get paid multi million pound purses..... the public gets sold another mismatch (PPV of course.)

And when Bellend gets knocked out, he announces a return at cruiserweight, bleating in the post fight interview: "this is my natural weight, I shouldn't have fought that high, but I'm still the best cruiserweight in world and I will KO any one of these bitch arse supposed world champions, bring them on! MY POWAAAAAAA! I'll kill these pussyholes!!!!!!! I got the green belt!" At which point some SKY turnip will come and say "please mind the language Tony!"

And everyone's a winner! Gay Eddie, SKY, both fighters, anyone involved in the promotion (including the mug casual punters.....)

The only losers are the hard core fans like us.....

Genius! I should be a boxing promoter!
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All Bellow has to do is come in at 201 lbs & it's game on.

Looks like Haye Day IV is on the way to being signed & sealed, because we all know that the 'public' will demand this! :roll:

Lets hope that Danny Cipriani & Benedict Cumberbatch are available that night to lovingly gaze up at Haye whilst he wipes out yet another hapless opponent. :-x
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magwitch wrote:Is that black Canadian chap not a cruiserweight? The one that beat him up?
Adonis Stevenson. He's the WBC World Light Heavyweight Champ and he has been for some time. There's no mention of him moving up/down weights at all from what I've heard.
magwitch wrote:Or the one the same bloke’s meant to be scared of, from Russia with Gloves? I take it they must be a weight (or two) below....
Sergey Kovalev holds the other 3 belts at Light Heavyweight, he's fighting Isaac Chilemba next month.
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Haye vs Bellew

The fight doesn't appeal to me. Haye has said that he wants to become World Heavyweight Champion since his comeback earlier this year and I do feel that if he steps back down to Cruiserweight then it would be a step in the wrong direction for him. It would be a polite reminder to everyone that Haye is (and maybe always has been) a jumped up Cruiser campaigning in the Heavyweight division.

As for Bellew, he should be focusing in fighting some of the big names in his division, if he wants the adulation that he so craves...
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mimmy123 wrote:David Haye lives in a world of sunshine and rainbows, what he touches turns to gold. No matter what he does he cant stop making money. If he helped an old lady cross a busy road he would be put in her will and she would turn out to be the richest woman in the world.

Me, If I fell into a barrel of tits I would come out sucking my thumb!
:lol:
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Crease wrote:Haye vs Bellew

The fight doesn't appeal to me. Haye has said that he wants to become World Heavyweight Champion since his comeback earlier this year and I do feel that if he steps back down to Cruiserweight then it would be a step in the wrong direction for him. It would be a polite reminder to everyone that Haye is (and maybe always has been) a jumped up Cruiser campaigning in the Heavyweight division.

As for Bellew, he should be focusing in fighting some of the big names in his division, if he wants the adulation that he so craves...
No chance Haye would move down for this fight.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:No chance Haye would move down for this fight.
I would say that there is a chance of it happening, but it would have to be for the WBC Cruiserweight title. Beating Bellew alone wouldn't be enough to make Haye slip back down, it would need to be more a big title.
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Crease wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:No chance Haye would move down for this fight.
I would say that there is a chance of it happening, but it would have to be for the WBC Cruiserweight title. Beating Bellew alone wouldn't be enough to make Haye slip back down, it would need to be more a big title.
I think you are wrong.

Haye hasn't fought below 200 for 8 years, and is 35. Haye has already been undisputed cruiser champ, what interest would it hold?
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Crease wrote:Haye vs Bellew

The fight doesn't appeal to me. Haye has said that he wants to become World Heavyweight Champion since his comeback earlier this year and I do feel that if he steps back down to Cruiserweight then it would be a step in the wrong direction for him. It would be a polite reminder to everyone that Haye is (and maybe always has been) a jumped up Cruiser campaigning in the Heavyweight division.

As for Bellew, he should be focusing in fighting some of the big names in his division, if he wants the adulation that he so craves...
Haye is in the grey area. Men like Haye are the reason Cruiser was created only what.....25years ago?
People that sweep up at Cruiser (Haye....maybe Holyfield...not sure) maybe aren’t born to be heavyweights (tho I think Holyfield must have been the bigger of the two by a good margin)...... However, they are legitimate Heavyweight fighters.
Over a 10-15 year career it’s perfectly reasonable for a boxer - especially a very good one - to compete at Cruiser and Heavy (tho applies to other weights too).
Although in the highest weight category you will have difficulties when you run into a world class fighter who has stones AND inches on you... i.e. Klitschko, or in USS Cunningham’s case, Tyson Fury.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:Lets not forget that it was Bellew that called him out live on Sky....of course Haye is going to respond.

if they fought I would take Haye all day to beat Bellew, at whatever weight.
So what if Bellew called him out, does that mean it's a worthy fight - of course it bloody well isn't.

Haye would smash Bellew inside a round, the first flush punch would KO him.

This is a joke of a fight if it happens.

I guess if people are thick enough to buy tickets to watch such tripe, they deserve what they get. It is not however providing any kind of long term boost for the sport, in fact, quite the contrary. People seem to believe that promoting mismatches and making a killing from it is good for the sport, but in truth it's about grabbing a payday from an ever diminishing pot of public interest. None of the people attending these shows, or at least very few will become long term fans. They are buying into brand Haye because they simply don't know any better, and believe what they are being told. However, when Haye retires again, another 10-20 million richer, they will be gone with him.

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think haye would be far to quick and strong for him,couldnt see it going 2 rounds. i like tone but
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brilo33 wrote:think haye would be far to quick and strong for him,couldnt see it going 2 rounds. i like tone but
The fight would last as long as Haye wanted it to.

It's a farcical fight in prospect, but that sums up David Haye's comeback thus far, so maybe Bomber would be worthy after all. :confused:
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I think Haye takes him out quickly, but I would watch it, unless it was PPV, then I'd give it a miss.
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IBF have put Haye #3 after that farce last month.
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samwbr wrote:IBF have put Haye #3 after that farce last month.
If I had a tennis racquet, I'd be slamming on the floor & yelling, "you cannot be serious!", just like the great John McEnroe! :o

That has to be some sort of joke?

I know that nothing the alphabet boys do in boxing should surprise anyone, but this is beyond farcical.
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haye in 1

anyone mocking hayes comeback is wrong to do so. it isn't a comeback at all. its a money making sideshow. david doesn't seem too worried about concealing the fact, either
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mike john wrote:haye in 1

anyone mocking hayes comeback is wrong to do so. it isn't a comeback at all. its a money making sideshow. david doesn't seem too worried about concealing the fact, either
Nonsense.
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I was happy for Tony winning the title, but how much emphasis can you put on a sparring session that happened 11/12 years ago where he supposedly got the better of Haye? Daft really.

Why would Haye drop 2 stone to step down and fight Bellew in a division he cleaned up in years ago?

The big ££££ is in the HW division and Haye loves a pound note, he's gunning for AJ and that fight makes a lot of ££££££.

If it's going to happen then perhaps meet in the middle at around 210, catch weight's seem to be in the "in-thing" nowadays anyway....

Bellew would earn good money, but I personally think Haye takes his head off.
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mike john wrote:haye in 1

anyone mocking hayes comeback is wrong to do so. it isn't a comeback at all. its a money making sideshow. david doesn't seem too worried about concealing the fact, either
It does seem a strange thing to get emotional about, concentrate on big fights between evenly match fighters (ever blue moon), let Haye do his Brian Nelson thing.

I'd love Haye to fight Bellew, far better than digging up an old corpse or finding an unbeaten opponent who has never left his hometown. It's not really boxing, it's a sideshow. If Bellew wants to give up his title to be involved in it, more fool him. I'll enjoy seeing him look hopelessly out of his depth after giving it the big I am.

He just needs to keep knocking out guys and staying on the radar. He knows the public would still rather see him fight one of the belt holders than 99% of the rest of the division, he doesn't need to take any risks. Fight an easy guy his fans have never heard of or fight a tough guy his fans have never heard of? It's a no brainer.
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All I can keep thinking is Haye hits harder than Adonis so not sure why Bellew fancies this one.
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http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... ddie-hearn

David Haye could return to Sky Sports Box Office against Tony Bellew at a catchweight of 210lbs early next year, says Eddie Hearn.
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Roars Like Me wrote:All I can keep thinking is Haye hits harder than Adonis so not sure why Bellew fancies this one.

Fancies the pay cheque. Haye would give him a pasting.
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