Taishan Dong.....is his ascendancy to the championship inevitable?

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gp. wrote:With six months training, Wilt Chamberlain could have been the most beautiful woman of all time.

hahahahah! Oh, poor Kalan, what has he started....that really made me chuckle.
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PredatorHayds wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:What a lot of people don't know -- even those who follow horse racing -- is that Wilt Chamberlain
was also one of the greatest jockeys of all time.
Well that's pretty controversial, he had the distinct advantage of height....and on the few times in exhibitions races when he actually competed he would stand directly above the horse and run with him, never actually sitting or placing his weight on the animal, while keeping up with whatever pace the horse happen to set.

The jockey licensing commission were worried the horses might get hurt if Wilt should stumble and fall on one of them.

Wilt was generous enough of a person to bow out before the conflict hit the courts. Thus allowing the sport of horseracing to continue to be dominated by the "little guy".
The jockey comment is actually true.

He started as a jockey but soon realised he was faster than the horses, so he'd jump off mid race and win the race by himself.
I heard Wilt was into drag racing until the same thing happened.
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asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.
Nobody thinks Wilt Chamberlain wasn't a great Athlete. The jokes are on Kalan who believes he could've beaten Muhammad Ali in a Boxing Match.
With a differend way of growing up it's certainly not impossible. Boxing can be learned, in most other things he got the advantage, possibly even reflexes. Reach, strength, even stamina, I've heard more about unexpected sport stories/results. Skills and experience is the only thing he doesn't have.
It's no accident that almost all of the greats in boxing, and indeed every other sport, started very young, there are a few exceptions, but generally you need many many years to become a top class proponent in any sport, even if you have the right physical and mental makeup, you're not going to beat the best in the world, who has been practicing since childhood, with a couple of years of training.
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asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:

won the Superbowl single-handedly too, didn't he?
He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.
For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.
He was not one of the fastest 400 meter runners on the planet, he ran 49,6 for 400 - that wouldn't have made him one of the best on the planet, not even close.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.
For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.
He was not one of the fastest 400 meter runners on the planet, he ran 49,6 for 400 - that wouldn't have made him one of the best on the planet, not even close.
In 1956 the olympic gold medalist finished his 400 meter in a time of 46,86, Chamberlain ran that 48,9 at the age of 17 in 1954. Please keep in mind that Chamberlain is not a runner, he's a basketball player and a schoolkid. Running that 400 meter he did just for fun, while doing other sports.

Out of a 1000 random guys including Chamberlain, Chamberlain would have won against all 1000 on avarage.
https://m.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3e9 ... ace_times/

Yes, if you compare him with guys that don't do anything else as running, who make a living of running fast he might lose against some. But in the 1950's he really was close near the top of the world in running fast as well.
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gp. wrote:With six months training, Wilt Chamberlain could have been the most beautiful woman of all time.
I'd say six weeks! :TU:
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asdfjkl wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.
He was not one of the fastest 400 meter runners on the planet, he ran 49,6 for 400 - that wouldn't have made him one of the best on the planet, not even close.
In 1956 the olympic gold medalist finished his 400 meter in a time of 46,86, Chamberlain ran that 48,9 at the age of 17 in 1954. Please keep in mind that Chamberlain is not a runner, he's a basketball player and a schoolkid. Running that 400 meter he did just for fun, while doing other sports.

Out of a 1000 random guys including Chamberlain, Chamberlain would have won against all 1000 on avarage.
https://m.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3e9 ... ace_times/

Yes, if you compare him with guys that don't do anything else as running, who make a living of running fast he might lose against some. But in the 1950's he really was close near the top of the world in running fast as well.
So you agree he wasnt one of the fastest on the planet as you claimed.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:
Well that's pretty controversial, he had the distinct advantage of height....and on the few times in exhibitions races when he actually competed he would stand directly above the horse and run with him, never actually sitting or placing his weight on the animal, while keeping up with whatever pace the horse happen to set.

The jockey licensing commission were worried the horses might get hurt if Wilt should stumble and fall on one of them.

Wilt was generous enough of a person to bow out before the conflict hit the courts. Thus allowing the sport of horseracing to continue to be dominated by the "little guy".
The jockey comment is actually true.

He started as a jockey but soon realised he was faster than the horses, so he'd jump off mid race and win the race by himself.
I heard Wilt was into drag racing until the same thing happened.

NASCAR.....pretty much the same scenario.
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Wilt Chamberlain was forced to take steroids in his youth because his balls were too big for pants.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wilt Chamberlain was forced to take steroids in his youth because his balls were too big for pants?
Please excuse SaadOffTheDeck's stupidity... When he was 4 his baby sitter sat on his face and forced farts down his throat on a number of occasions. That retarded his brain developments and he's been asking super stupid and nonsensical questions ever since. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
He was not one of the fastest 400 meter runners on the planet, he ran 49,6 for 400 - that wouldn't have made him one of the best on the planet, not even close.
In 1956 the olympic gold medalist finished his 400 meter in a time of 46,86, Chamberlain ran that 48,9 at the age of 17 in 1954. Please keep in mind that Chamberlain is not a runner, he's a basketball player and a schoolkid. Running that 400 meter he did just for fun, while doing other sports.

Out of a 1000 random guys including Chamberlain, Chamberlain would have won against all 1000 on avarage.
https://m.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3e9 ... ace_times/

Yes, if you compare him with guys that don't do anything else as running, who make a living of running fast he might lose against some. But in the 1950's he really was close near the top of the world in running fast as well.
So you agree he wasnt one of the fastest on the planet as you claimed.
No, he's one of the fastest on the planet, especially for his age.
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Kalan wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wilt Chamberlain was forced to take steroids in his youth because his balls were too big for pants?
Please excuse SaadOffTheDeck's stupidity... When he was 4 his baby sitter sat on his face and forced farts down his throat on a number of occasions. That retarded his brain developments and he's been asking super stupid and nonsensical questions ever since. :lol: :lol: :lol:
What's your excuse?

Did Wilt Chamberlain teabag you as a youth.

Oh wait, he can't have done, given that you were already 126 by then, as you'd been John L Sullivan's bag-man.
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asdfjkl wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: In 1956 the olympic gold medalist finished his 400 meter in a time of 46,86, Chamberlain ran that 48,9 at the age of 17 in 1954. Please keep in mind that Chamberlain is not a runner, he's a basketball player and a schoolkid. Running that 400 meter he did just for fun, while doing other sports.

Out of a 1000 random guys including Chamberlain, Chamberlain would have won against all 1000 on avarage.
https://m.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3e9 ... ace_times/

Yes, if you compare him with guys that don't do anything else as running, who make a living of running fast he might lose against some. But in the 1950's he really was close near the top of the world in running fast as well.
So you agree he wasnt one of the fastest on the planet as you claimed.
No, he's one of the fastest on the planet, especially for his age.
Where do you get your stats? CORRECTION: Found 'em. It's obviously blinking impressive. But still utterly irrelevant to boxing.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:
Well that's pretty controversial, he had the distinct advantage of height....and on the few times in exhibitions races when he actually competed he would stand directly above the horse and run with him, never actually sitting or placing his weight on the animal, while keeping up with whatever pace the horse happen to set.

The jockey licensing commission were worried the horses might get hurt if Wilt should stumble and fall on one of them.

Wilt was generous enough of a person to bow out before the conflict hit the courts. Thus allowing the sport of horseracing to continue to be dominated by the "little guy".
The jockey comment is actually true.

He started as a jockey but soon realised he was faster than the horses, so he'd jump off mid race and win the race by himself.
I heard Wilt was into drag racing until the same thing happened.

Was that drag racing or drag queen racing?
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BitPlayer wrote:He's not 7 foot tall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqgAvdDMI_k
That's him fighting someone 6"3'

People say it's dubious that Fury is even 6"9', here's him against someone 6"3'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese1YPpw5mE
Taishan is a damned ugly fighter.. He fouled a lot and didn't stop.. He stinks to beat Hell right now.
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Say what you want -- Dong is on the rise.
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I agree with the gigantism argument. He looks so slow and can't punch straight. Still telegraphs anything other than a jab like crazy but hey, Valuev won a title and I don't see why Taishan couldn't win one either. This current crop of HWs is still pretty weak. However, he isn't beating Joshua or, probably, Wilder.
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