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Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:24
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:
There's no need for me to contact WADA and tell them to allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement as they already allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement.

Well, just in case you couldn't figure it out, we are discussing a banned substance PED named Meldonium. Please check the FACTs before calling us misinformed because we've been (THE WORLD) has been informed???...that's right you guessed it correctly, it's a banned ILLEGAL substance
Knockout!
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:28
by boxing_rocks
foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
There's no need for me to contact WADA and tell them to allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement as they already allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement.

Well, just in case you couldn't figure it out, we are discussing a banned substance PED named Meldonium. Please check the FACTs before calling us misinformed because we've been (THE WORLD) has been informed???...that's right you guessed it correctly, it's a banned substance
Knockout!
WADA accepted that there is no proof that Povetkin took meldonium when it was banned. Are you that slow or just pretending?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:31
by foxdog1923
boxing_rocks wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
There's no need for me to contact WADA and tell them to allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement as they already allow the use of legal methods for performance enhancement.

Well, just in case you couldn't figure it out, we are discussing a banned substance PED named Meldonium. Please check the FACTs before calling us misinformed because we've been (THE WORLD) has been informed???...that's right you guessed it correctly, it's a banned substance
Knockout!
WADA accepted that there is no proof that Povetkin took meldonium when it was banned. Are you that slow or just pretending?
No I know Povetkin is cleared. That is fine by me. Can you not read? We are not discussing Povetkin, we are discussing Meldonium being a PED. There is no Povetkin. Do you understand? Do you understand? Dum as hell
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:36
by boxing_rocks
foxdog1923 wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
Well, just in case you couldn't figure it out, we are discussing a banned substance PED named Meldonium. Please check the FACTs before calling us misinformed because we've been (THE WORLD) has been informed???...that's right you guessed it correctly, it's a banned substance
Knockout!
WADA accepted that there is no proof that Povetkin took meldonium when it was banned. Are you that slow or just pretending?
No I know Povetkin is cleared. That is fine by me. Can you not read? We are not discussing Povetkin, we are discussing Meldonium being a PED. There is no Povetkin. Do you understand? Do you understand? Dum as hell
We were discussing meldonium when it was legally widely used. Nobody needed to ask WADA then. Nobody said that it is legal now.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:41
by foxdog1923
boxing_rocks wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:
WADA accepted that there is no proof that Povetkin took meldonium when it was banned. Are you that slow or just pretending?
No I know Povetkin is cleared. That is fine by me. Can you not read? We are not discussing Povetkin, we are discussing Meldonium being a PED. There is no Povetkin. Do you understand? Do you understand? Dum as hell
We were discussing meldonium when it was legally widely used. Nobody needed to ask WADA then. Nobody said that it is legal now.
You were not even in our discussion

you look stupid right now. Check the posts (I already have) and you'll see it does NOT involve you. You were discussing something with other posters. This discussion about Meldonium is between punchoutsb, killer blow and SFW.
We are discussing Medonium being a PED NOTHING ELSE.

you look silly

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:43
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:There are many legal substances that have evidence based research showing them to be performance enhancing. Taking a legal substance is not cheating. Honestly, what is so hard to understand?
People have this functionally challenged "idea" (or perhaps "idea precursor" would be more accurate as even a little thought would disprove it) that everything has to be fair and equal. Nothing is fair and equal. Most drugs that are banned end up that way because someone wanted to enhance their political standing, nothing more.
We have terribly misinformed people saying things like:
foxdog1923 wrote:LOL "it might be PEDing but its not cheating". Nothing else is needed, just stupid.
Killer Blow wrote:Meldonium has been used to beef up animals. Poveykin knew he was cheating when he did it, and he knew at some point it would get banned.
SFW wrote:He was using a sketchy substance to gain an edge. Or he never would have taken it at all since he's such a clean athlete, right?
So anything that enhances performance is cheating according to these lines of thought. Is a well balanced meal cheating? Is ingesting a blend of proteins rather than a single source of protein cheating? Or does it have to come in a pill to be evil to you? In that case, what are your thoughts on creatine? Conjugated linoleic acid? Are those considered cheating? Mega dosing fertile eggs has been shown to have "steroid like" effects on burn victims. Do we need to set a limit on the amount of eggs a fighter can eat per day?
An athletes job is to prepare to the best of their abilities, and this includes taking any sort of legal supplement that may enhance their performance. Athletes do not set the rules on what is and isn't banned; greedy politicians do. If a supplement is legal, it is not cheating. That is a fact.
Why wasn't boxing rocks invited into our discussion?
Look at my posts and punchoutsb traded posts to each other and SHOW me a post that mentions Povetkins name or when it was legal and when it wasn't.
PROOF boxing rocks was NOT in this discussion

that was a easy knockout

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 20:57
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:
Well, just in case you couldn't figure it out, we are discussing a banned substance PED named Meldonium. Please check the FACTs before calling us misinformed because we've been (THE WORLD) has been informed???...that's right you guessed it correctly, it's a banned ILLEGAL substance
Knockout!
Your quote that I happened to comment on in my original post was one that you posted in response to this:
Tarkus wrote:All athletes take supplements. IT IS NOT CHEATING IF IT IS NOT BANNED. Get it in your tiny brains.
Maybe I misunderstood your point due to your lack of communication skills, but it seemed to me that you suggested that an athlete can still be considered a cheat by taking legal substances.
There is nothing wrong with an athlete taking a legal substance to enhance performance. After that substance is banned under the guise of safety, it is no longer socially acceptable.
So even though you claim so elegantly to "have been has been informed", you clearly haven't the foggiest clue what you're talking about. My post (you know the one that I started) is in response to ignorant comments about PED's in general. Aside from you spastically jumping about flailing your arms and yelling "Knockout!", you've done nothing to show me that you're not terribly ignorant on performance enhancement in general.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 21:02
by boxing_rocks
foxdog1923 wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
No I know Povetkin is cleared. That is fine by me. Can you not read? We are not discussing Povetkin, we are discussing Meldonium being a PED. There is no Povetkin. Do you understand? Do you understand? Dum as hell
We were discussing meldonium when it was legally widely used. Nobody needed to ask WADA then. Nobody said that it is legal now.
You were not even in our discussion

you look stupid right now. Check the posts (I already have) and you'll see it does NOT involve you. You were discussing something with other posters. This discussion about Meldonium is between punchoutsb, killer blow and SFW.
We are discussing Medonium being a PED NOTHING ELSE.

you look silly

F*ck off. This is not your private thread. Any forum member can participate in any discussion. The only stupid one here is you.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 21:21
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood your point
Well you did and that's ok. Problem solved, you now know that PED Meldonium is a banned substance. That's all. You know better now.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 21:32
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood your point
Well you did and that's ok. Problem solved, you now know that PED Meldonium is a banned substance. That's all. You know better now.
I knew and still know Meldonium is now a banned substance my ignorant friend. But I'm sure you can forgive my misunderstanding of your non-existent original "point" since you made it in response to this post:
Tarkus wrote:All athletes take supplements. IT IS NOT CHEATING IF IT IS NOT BANNED. Get it in your tiny brains.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 21:52
by boxing_rocks
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood your point
Well you did and that's ok. Problem solved, you now know that PED Meldonium is a banned substance. That's all. You know better now.
I knew and still know Meldonium is now a banned substance my ignorant friend. But I'm sure you can forgive my misunderstanding of your non-existent original "point" since you made it in response to this post:
Tarkus wrote:All athletes take supplements. IT IS NOT CHEATING IF IT IS NOT BANNED. Get it in your tiny brains.
The last quote is a little contradictive though. People with tiny brains are just unable to get it and should be given a break

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:24
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood your point
Well you did and that's ok. Problem solved, you now know that PED Meldonium is a banned substance. That's all. You know better now.
I knew and still know Meldonium is now a banned substance my ignorant friend. But I'm sure you can forgive my misunderstanding of your non-existent original "point" since you made it in response to this post:
Tarkus wrote:All athletes take supplements. IT IS NOT CHEATING IF IT IS NOT BANNED. Get it in your tiny brains.
No youre wrong. Read my post it was NOT in reply to that post. Heres a hint, look at the words.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:28
by foxdog1923
foxdog1923 wrote:Tarkus wrote:It might be PEDing but it is not cheating. Who is breeding all these morons I wonder.
LOL "it might be Performance.Enhancing.Drugs ing but its not cheating". Nothing else is needed, just stupid.
Here it is.
Note this post mentions no dates, its a single statement. It is not saying 'when PED Meldonium was not banned' or anything like that. Single statement unaltered.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:36
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:Tarkus wrote:It might be PEDing but it is not cheating. Who is breeding all these morons I wonder.
LOL "it might be Performance.Enhancing.Drugs ing but its not cheating". Nothing else is needed, just stupid.
Here it is.
Note this post mentions no dates, its a single statement. It is not saying when PEDs were not banned or anything like that. Single statement unaltered.
It's a single statement that you're trying to take out of context to attempt and crawl out of the hole you've dug yourself.
Tarkus said, correctly, if it's not banned it's not cheating. Just because your uninformed interjection came half way through the conversation doesn't discount the ignorance of your statement. If you can't follow the track of a conversation then don't try to jump in.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:41
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
LOL "it might be Performance.Enhancing.Drugs ing but its not cheating". Nothing else is needed, just stupid.
Here it is.
Note this post mentions no dates, its a single statement. It is not saying when PEDs were not banned or anything like that. Single statement unaltered.
It's a single statement that you're trying to take out of context to attempt and crawl out of the hole you've dug yourself.
Tarkus said, correctly, if it's not banned it's not cheating. Just because your uninformed interjection came half way through the conversation doesn't discount the ignorance of your statement. If you can't follow the track of a conversation then don't try to jump in.
Hey hey calm down. It was YOU that jumped in to my response to Tarkus post. Check it, there is no you in it, untill of course YOU JUMPED IN. Again youre wrong. Geez just PROVEN wrong a lot.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:43
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:
Hey hey calm down. It was YOU that jumped in to my response to Tarkus post. Check it, there is no you in it, untill of course YOU JUMPED IN. Again youre wrong. Geez just PROVEN wrong a lot.
Actually...I made my own post to highlight some of the ignorance within this thread.
You just happened to top the list

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:45
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
Hey hey calm down. It was YOU that jumped in to my response to Tarkus post. Check it, there is no you in it, untill of course YOU JUMPED IN. Again youre wrong. Geez just PROVEN wrong a lot.
Actually...I made my own post to highlight some of the ignorance within this thread.
You just happened to top the list

Well at least Ive corrected you and thats a fact through all of this and we can both agree you have NOT corrected me because I havent been wrong.
Thats the facts, you were wrong twice!
2 wrongs dont make a right

knockout!
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 22:47
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
Hey hey calm down. It was YOU that jumped in to my response to Tarkus post. Check it, there is no you in it, untill of course YOU JUMPED IN. Again youre wrong. Geez just PROVEN wrong a lot.
Actually...I made my own post to highlight some of the ignorance within this thread.
You just happened to top the list

Well at least Ive corrected you and thats a fact through all of this and we can both agree you have NOT corrected me because I havent been wrong.
Thats the facts, you were wrong twice!
2 wrongs dont make a right

knockout!
More spastic wailing. The only thing you've proven is that you're less intelligent than I'd originally given you credit for.
Congratulations, print this first place post off and put it up on your mums refrigerator with a magnet that says "Number One".

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:04
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Actually...I made my own post to highlight some of the ignorance within this thread.
You just happened to top the list

Well at least Ive corrected you and thats a fact through all of this and we can both agree you have NOT corrected me because I havent been wrong.
Thats the facts, you were wrong twice!
2 wrongs dont make a right

knockout!
More spastic wailing. The only thing you've proven is that you're less intelligent than I'd originally given you credit for.
Congratulations, print this first place post off and put it up on your mums refrigerator with a magnet that says "Number One".

Dont blame me. We were verbally sparring when YOU JUMPED in by replying to my post that was for Tarkus, NOT YOU. You mentioned a lot of fair points but you thought I didnt understand that Meldonium was once legal despite me not even saying anything like that in my post. Its easy to see my post was mocking his direct quote, only an idiot would assume anything else.
You assumed wrong when you thought you knew what post I was referring to so from the start your assumptions were wild to be fair. So you dropped your guard on that one and I popped you. Then you tried to hit me with me jumping into a non existent discussion between me and Tarkus, theres was no discussion, Im not taking anything out of context, check the traded posts its only me ridiculing a stupid post! So then I countered your shot and delivered the knockout blow but by reminding you of the situation.
I just knocked you out

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:08
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:Dont blame me. We were verbally sparring when YOU JUMPED in by replying to my post that was for Tarkus, NOT YOU. You mentioned a lot of fair points but you thought I didnt understand that Meldonium was once legal despite me not even saying anything like that in my post. Its easy to see my post was mocking his direct quote, only an idiot would assume anything else.
You assumed wrong when you thought you knew what post I was referring to so from the start your assumptions were wild to be fair. So you dropped your guard on that one and I popped you. Then you tried to hit me with me jumping into a non existent discussion between me and Tarkus, theres was no discussion, Im not taking anything out of context, check the traded posts its only me ridiculing a stupid post! So then I countered your shot and delivered the knockout blow but by reminding you of the situation.
I just knocked you out

Why are you still here? Maybe your mum said you couldn't put the post on the fridge? Maybe try your basement bathroom mirror?
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:11
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:Dont blame me. We were verbally sparring when YOU JUMPED in by replying to my post that was for Tarkus, NOT YOU. You mentioned a lot of fair points but you thought I didnt understand that Meldonium was once legal despite me not even saying anything like that in my post. Its easy to see my post was mocking his direct quote, only an idiot would assume anything else.
You assumed wrong when you thought you knew what post I was referring to so from the start your assumptions were wild to be fair. So you dropped your guard on that one and I popped you. Then you tried to hit me with me jumping into a non existent discussion between me and Tarkus, theres was no discussion, Im not taking anything out of context, check the traded posts its only me ridiculing a stupid post! So then I countered your shot and delivered the knockout blow but by reminding you of the situation.
I just knocked you out

Why are you still here? Maybe your mum said you couldn't put the post on the fridge? Maybe try your basement bathroom mirror?

Im here to talk about the thread topic and other topics and to even listen to you. I enjoy being the smart one
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:16
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:
Congratulations, print this first place post off and put it up on your mums refrigerator with a magnet that says "Number One".

From the start you just misunderstood me thats all. I did enjoy the verbal sparring but now its over :(
I misunderstand people all the time. I dont turn into a troll about it as I think thats what youre becoming. 'I stand corrected' gets respect anyday.
So long punchedoutsb :) just kidding.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:17
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:I enjoy being the smart one
I'm happy for you! You seem very creative with a bright imagination. High school will be fun for you

Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:22
by foxdog1923
punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:I enjoy being the smart one
I'm happy for you! You seem very creative with a bright imagination. High school will be fun for you

Then what are you? Kindergarten?

far out, too easy.
Re: WADA allegedly cleared Povetkin
Posted: 02 Jul 2016, 23:33
by punchoutsb
foxdog1923 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:I enjoy being the smart one
I'm happy for you! You seem very creative with a bright imagination. High school will be fun for you

Then what are you? Kindergarten?

far out, too easy.
I am in first year studies of sorts, sort of a kindergarten for grown up successful people if you will. You'll hear about it probably as a Freshman or Sophomore. Pay close attention though, some of the details can be tricky.