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Stuarty30 wrote:

lefty wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Definitely mate. When I was a boy my dad got stabbed to within a quarter of an inch of his life. Stabbed multiple times and one of the wounds was literally fractions from piercing his heart. He doesn't talk about it much but my mam once told me he continued fighting the guy then ran for a short distance before collapsing. One of the times my dad did talk about it he said he never knew he'd been stabbed. He was on the ground wrestling and trying to hit the other guy whilst this nutter was stabbing away at him. He said he thought the guy was just punching him.

I've had a few close calls as well and have been lucky. its very common over here. Have to be honest it gives me the fear even today!

I've heard people say that quite a lot

Regarding the close calls- Glasgow in particular is notorious for stabbings right?

Yeah Glasgow and the surrounding areas has a real problem. Seems to be part of the culture which is worrying. Two personal friends of mine have been stabbed and killed and I know of scores more. Even though I grew up around it I still don't understand it. There was a big group of us growing up and most of us are still close now and not one of us would've ever even considered carrying a knife. You knew who all the ones to keep away from were. Most of the people that carried were known for it.

handsofstone wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

lefty wrote: I've heard people say that quite a lot

Regarding the close calls- Glasgow in particular is notorious for stabbings right?

Yeah Glasgow and the surrounding areas has a real problem. Seems to be part of the culture which is worrying. Two personal friends of mine have been stabbed and killed and I know of scores more. Even though I grew up around it I still don't understand it. There was a big group of us growing up and most of us are still close now and not one of us would've ever even considered carrying a knife. You knew who all the ones to keep away from were. Most of the people that carried were known for it.

Seems the West coast of Scotland is a lot worse than over here ay mate,although knife crime does rear its head now and again and ive had a mate murdered a few years ago when he was stabbed outside his front door for refusing a junkie a roll up,effing scumbags who carry blades about with them,the murders over this way tend to be severe beatings with a baseball bat,cosh etc

When i was younger a lot of mates used to always carry weapons coz they were paranoid although ive never done it myself,usually it was Millwall bricks etc but no one ever carried a knife,one of my mates stabbed my other mate when were about 15 who happened to also be his cousin and his dad was so proud telling everyone how his son had got his 1st chibbing under his belt,shocking behaviour from a father especially considering it was his nephew his son couldve murdered

SAPFO wrote:A lot of my Jock family were from Easter House. What's that like?

It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

Stuarty30 wrote:

SAPFO wrote:A lot of my Jock family were from Easter House. What's that like?

It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

I have family in Easterhouse and I also used to work there. It isn't for the faint hearted! It's quite a big housing scheme and there's more than a few dodgy bits. Some of its like fuckin Beirut man! Next to it you have places like Cranhill, Springboig, Carmyle and Ruchazie which are also proper nuts! It's actually not too far from Parkhead where Celtic play. I also have family over that way and that's not much better!

forcefraser wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

SAPFO wrote:A lot of my Jock family were from Easter House. What's that like?

It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

I have family in Easterhouse and I also used to work there. It isn't for the faint hearted! It's quite a big housing scheme and there's more than a few dodgy bits. Some of its like fuckin Beirut man! Next to it you have places like Cranhill, Springboig, Carmyle and Ruchazie which are also proper nuts! It's actually not too far from Parkhead where Celtic play. I also have family over that way and that's not much better!

What`s the worst area/scheme in Glasgow? I imagine it must be pretty bad whatever it is.

I saw a documentary once about a housing estate in Scotland (think it was near Dunfermline). Looked pretty depressing. Hardly anyone worked, they were all junked up or boozed into oblivion.

I was thinking of taking my family over for a week driving around scotland next Summer. Highlands, coast and maybe the islands. I`l not be going near dunfermline or Glasgow by the sound of things

SAPFO wrote:A lot of my Jock family were from Easter House. What's that like?

It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

SAPFO wrote:It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SAPFO wrote:A lot of my Jock family were from Easter House. What's that like?

It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

Because it would ruin my night out.

Although I'm partial myself, I have to say, I'm fortunate it doesn't turn me into a megabellend, but then again I was never a particularly violent, obnoxious or aggressive type, and at 45, any hints of that type of behaviour are long gone.

It is unfortunate that everywhere you go now, people are off their chops, drunk and coke fuelled, it doesn't make for great interactions. At my age the main purpose of doing coke is staying awake, as after a few drinks I'm falling asleep. Maybe I should just stay in, not that this is any guarantee of safety from inebriation.

freddydoesdallas wrote:I went to 3 big(ish) cards in the space of about a year and all 3 kicked quite majorly. Mag 7 card as already mentioned in the thread, Rendall Munroe v Terrazas in Coventry. Munroe is from Leicester and their football hooligans & Coventry hooligans apparently have 'beef'. The Leicester hooligans just started fighting and smashing things up. Still not sure if this was organised and Coventry bottled it or if it was just one sided trouble for 'face' purposes.

The other was at a Prizefighter card in London that Travis Dickenson won. Fight was going on in the ring and it just kicked off in the stands between about 40 people. Proper full on violence.

In all 3, the security had no idea what to do and the Police wanted nothing to do with it as they didn't want to come into the venue.

Still, it could all be worse. We could be going to uni in Texas where it is now legal to carry a concealed weapon as it will help to beat the bad guys

ste1983 wrote:

SAPFO wrote:It is a British disease. People cannot go out without coke these days. Why don't they stick a drug dog on the door for a few events.

Was loads of dogs at Frampton/Quigg still plenty of sniff going about inside, same with the two shows I've been to at the Barclay Card Arena in Brum. Them dogs don't detect eff all if you've got a couple of grams of heavily cut sniff down ya sock your getting through no problem. If you're walking round with a kilo down ya pants you might have a problem.

I can't see how any boxing fan would wanna be sniffed up at a show personally you don't concentrate and just wanna keep effing off to the bar/bog. Why I rarely partake at boxing show. But the problem is plenty of these big shows aren't full of what I'd class as actual boxing fans they're there for the big fight or just to 'for the crack' (no pun intended) etc so they're not gonna mind not conentrating on the undercard when they can just bounce up sniffed up for the main event.

mfc_se15 wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:I went to 3 big(ish) cards in the space of about a year and all 3 kicked quite majorly. Mag 7 card as already mentioned in the thread, Rendall Munroe v Terrazas in Coventry. Munroe is from Leicester and their football hooligans & Coventry hooligans apparently have 'beef'. The Leicester hooligans just started fighting and smashing things up. Still not sure if this was organised and Coventry bottled it or if it was just one sided trouble for 'face' purposes.

The other was at a Prizefighter card in London that Travis Dickenson won. Fight was going on in the ring and it just kicked off in the stands between about 40 people. Proper full on violence.

In all 3, the security had no idea what to do and the Police wanted nothing to do with it as they didn't want to come into the venue.

Still, it could all be worse. We could be going to uni in Texas where it is now legal to carry a concealed weapon as it will help to beat the bad guys

Was at the Prizefighter one, that went on for a while. Know a few of the lads who ended up involved in that. Wasn't a football thing although I know a few of them through it. Just different areas and the other lot didn't take kindly to the ones I know celebrating their lad winning.

One of the more amazing bits of that row was the one security bloke who tried to calm it down (must have been mental it was well out of control and far too many for him on his own), he took a good few shots. Everyone did the off before the old bill arrived, which meant the rest of the show felt pretty empty.

Stuarty30 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
I have family in Easterhouse and I also used to work there. It isn't for the faint hearted! It's quite a big housing scheme and there's more than a few dodgy bits. Some of its like fuckin Beirut man! Next to it you have places like Cranhill, Springboig, Carmyle and Ruchazie which are also proper nuts! It's actually not too far from Parkhead where Celtic play. I also have family over that way and that's not much better!

What`s the worst area/scheme in Glasgow? I imagine it must be pretty bad whatever it is.

I saw a documentary once about a housing estate in Scotland (think it was near Dunfermline). Looked pretty depressing. Hardly anyone worked, they were all junked up or boozed into oblivion.

I was thinking of taking my family over for a week driving around scotland next Summer. Highlands, coast and maybe the islands. I`l not be going near dunfermline or Glasgow by the sound of things

I'm not too sure to be honest. All the rough schemes have their moments. Some of em are as bad as each other. Possilpark is pretty notorious and quite a scary place. The North, South and East ends all have pretty bad areas. The city centre and west ends are quite good. Plenty to see and do, nice restaurants and pubs etc.... Kelvinside is nice. Lovely park and big museum and again a lot of really nice places to eat and drink.

Was the thing you watched called the scheme? If it was it was in Kilmarnock. The Onthank estate. That show was hilarious. some right funny folk kicking about there!

chrisnew86 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:

What`s the worst area/scheme in Glasgow? I imagine it must be pretty bad whatever it is.

I saw a documentary once about a housing estate in Scotland (think it was near Dunfermline). Looked pretty depressing. Hardly anyone worked, they were all junked up or boozed into oblivion.

I was thinking of taking my family over for a week driving around scotland next Summer. Highlands, coast and maybe the islands. I`l not be going near dunfermline or Glasgow by the sound of things

I'm not too sure to be honest. All the rough schemes have their moments. Some of em are as bad as each other. Possilpark is pretty notorious and quite a scary place. The North, South and East ends all have pretty bad areas. The city centre and west ends are quite good. Plenty to see and do, nice restaurants and pubs etc.... Kelvinside is nice. Lovely park and big museum and again a lot of really nice places to eat and drink.

Was the thing you watched called the scheme? If it was it was in Kilmarnock. The Onthank estate. That show was hilarious. some right funny folk kicking about there!

I saw that doc, its still on YouTube if you search for it.

I remember there being some fella with a dog called Bullet and some lad who got a 15 year old bird up the duff and started taking smack. It was like the Scottish version of Skint

chrisnew86 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:

What`s the worst area/scheme in Glasgow? I imagine it must be pretty bad whatever it is.

I saw a documentary once about a housing estate in Scotland (think it was near Dunfermline). Looked pretty depressing. Hardly anyone worked, they were all junked up or boozed into oblivion.

I was thinking of taking my family over for a week driving around scotland next Summer. Highlands, coast and maybe the islands. I`l not be going near dunfermline or Glasgow by the sound of things

I'm not too sure to be honest. All the rough schemes have their moments. Some of em are as bad as each other. Possilpark is pretty notorious and quite a scary place. The North, South and East ends all have pretty bad areas. The city centre and west ends are quite good. Plenty to see and do, nice restaurants and pubs etc.... Kelvinside is nice. Lovely park and big museum and again a lot of really nice places to eat and drink.

Was the thing you watched called the scheme? If it was it was in Kilmarnock. The Onthank estate. That show was hilarious. some right funny folk kicking about there!

I saw that doc, its still on YouTube if you search for it.

I remember there being some fella with a dog called Bullet and some lad who got a 15 year old bird up the duff and started taking smack. It was like the Scottish version of Skint

lefty wrote:

Metal Fingers wrote:

ste1983 wrote:
Like you say I think you get that kind of dickhead behaviour at any type of big event.

I do find small hall shows are better and you don't get that type of idiots there but can get some nasty people at them depending on who's on the bill what area's/people represented etc.

I can’t recall any real problems at small hall shows. I used to really like the Sunday afternoon ones and, ironically, it was at one of them that I had some minor bother with some guys who were still drunk from the night before and kept kicking my chair then singing “It wasn’t me!” in that daft Shaggy voice. Then they realised I was writing notes so they’d time their kicks when I was trying to jot stuff down.

Two fights in, Jamie Moore came over and said “Hello” so all the lads behind asked for a photo with him etc. They were perfect gentlemen for the rest of the day. One guy kept telling me what type of punch landed and when “Because I noticed you were writing away, fella” and another one came out with that old “You should write a book about me!” chestnut.

Scariest thing I’ve seen didn’t involve crowd trouble. It was at Haye-Barrett and some lone nut was dancing in the stands. For some reason he decided to leap over the concrete barrier, presumably without realising there was a substantial drop on the other side. We heard the thud of him hitting the concrete floor and the ambulance people rushed over to him. I’m not sure what happened next as a fight was taking place and the next round had started.

Froch-Groves at Wembley had its fair share of coked up knobs. Entering the toilets was like entering Mad Max. Lots of tarts dressed up like hookers. I went to the event with my stepdad and it was his first boxing event.


I remember John Ryder walked past me and I'm about 5'11/6ft and he seemed bloody tiny. He looked about 5'7 in person. Anyway the actual event itself went by pretty well in regards to trouble and we got chatting to a couple of young guys from London and they were a good laugh.

We got a coach back to Kent as part of the package of the ticket and that's where trouble did occur. A bunch of about 7 or 8 coked up guys, 3 or 4 who were huge were seriously rowdy and obviously looking for trouble. One started kicking the back of my stepdad's chair and shouting poo. I didn't know what o do at this point. Luckily it never went beyond that point but it was intimidating atmosphere all the way back to put it mildly. They kept shouting at the coach driver to play specific music and at one point we had the opening dance track from Blade blaring out (the track in the nightclub scene right at the beginning of the film) down the motorway. Then when we were all about to get off the coach when we reached our destination- one scrawny little fornicator from the same group starts shouting in my face and asks me if I've had a good night. I reply yeah and then he screeches "me too, I'm coked off my effing nut!" It was said in a pretty hostile way though lol.

I dunno if anyone else experienced anything like that at Froch-Groves 2.

Stuarty30 wrote:

chrisnew86 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
I'm not too sure to be honest. All the rough schemes have their moments. Some of em are as bad as each other. Possilpark is pretty notorious and quite a scary place. The North, South and East ends all have pretty bad areas. The city centre and west ends are quite good. Plenty to see and do, nice restaurants and pubs etc.... Kelvinside is nice. Lovely park and big museum and again a lot of really nice places to eat and drink.

Was the thing you watched called the scheme? If it was it was in Kilmarnock. The Onthank estate. That show was hilarious. some right funny folk kicking about there!

I saw that doc, its still on YouTube if you search for it.

I remember there being some fella with a dog called Bullet and some lad who got a 15 year old bird up the duff and started taking smack. It was like the Scottish version of Skint

Aye poverty porn I think they call it lol. The papers took an interest in the big Marvin one and his mad bird. Payed for their teeth to get done and done a few photo shoots with em A few of em that were on that show are dead now. Not surprising really.

That wee guy that got the young lassie preggers was hilarious His mam n dad just went on holiday and kicked him out the house and locked it Told him to go and fend for himself for two weeks

Wrists wrote:

lefty wrote:

Metal Fingers wrote:
I can’t recall any real problems at small hall shows. I used to really like the Sunday afternoon ones and, ironically, it was at one of them that I had some minor bother with some guys who were still drunk from the night before and kept kicking my chair then singing “It wasn’t me!” in that daft Shaggy voice. Then they realised I was writing notes so they’d time their kicks when I was trying to jot stuff down.

Two fights in, Jamie Moore came over and said “Hello” so all the lads behind asked for a photo with him etc. They were perfect gentlemen for the rest of the day. One guy kept telling me what type of punch landed and when “Because I noticed you were writing away, fella” and another one came out with that old “You should write a book about me!” chestnut.

Scariest thing I’ve seen didn’t involve crowd trouble. It was at Haye-Barrett and some lone nut was dancing in the stands. For some reason he decided to leap over the concrete barrier, presumably without realising there was a substantial drop on the other side. We heard the thud of him hitting the concrete floor and the ambulance people rushed over to him. I’m not sure what happened next as a fight was taking place and the next round had started.

Froch-Groves at Wembley had its fair share of coked up knobs. Entering the toilets was like entering Mad Max. Lots of tarts dressed up like hookers. I went to the event with my stepdad and it was his first boxing event.


I remember John Ryder walked past me and I'm about 5'11/6ft and he seemed bloody tiny. He looked about 5'7 in person. Anyway the actual event itself went by pretty well in regards to trouble and we got chatting to a couple of young guys from London and they were a good laugh.

We got a coach back to Kent as part of the package of the ticket and that's where trouble did occur. A bunch of about 7 or 8 coked up guys, 3 or 4 who were huge were seriously rowdy and obviously looking for trouble. One started kicking the back of my stepdad's chair and shouting poo. I didn't know what o do at this point. Luckily it never went beyond that point but it was intimidating atmosphere all the way back to put it mildly. They kept shouting at the coach driver to play specific music and at one point we had the opening dance track from Blade blaring out (the track in the nightclub scene right at the beginning of the film) down the motorway. Then when we were all about to get off the coach when we reached our destination- one scrawny little fornicator from the same group starts shouting in my face and asks me if I've had a good night. I reply yeah and then he screeches "me too, I'm coked off my effing nut!" It was said in a pretty hostile way though lol.

I dunno if anyone else experienced anything like that at Froch-Groves 2.

Froch Groves 2 - where was that held and how many people were there?

forcefraser wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

chrisnew86 wrote:
I saw that doc, its still on YouTube if you search for it.

I remember there being some fella with a dog called Bullet and some lad who got a 15 year old bird up the duff and started taking smack. It was like the Scottish version of Skint

Aye poverty porn I think they call it lol. The papers took an interest in the big Marvin one and his mad bird. Payed for their teeth to get done and done a few photo shoots with em A few of em that were on that show are dead now. Not surprising really.

That wee guy that got the young lassie preggers was hilarious His mam n dad just went on holiday and kicked him out the house and locked it Told him to go and fend for himself for two weeks

You are right it was Kilmarnock. What a place that was.

Wrists wrote:

lefty wrote:

Metal Fingers wrote:
I can’t recall any real problems at small hall shows. I used to really like the Sunday afternoon ones and, ironically, it was at one of them that I had some minor bother with some guys who were still drunk from the night before and kept kicking my chair then singing “It wasn’t me!” in that daft Shaggy voice. Then they realised I was writing notes so they’d time their kicks when I was trying to jot stuff down.

Two fights in, Jamie Moore came over and said “Hello” so all the lads behind asked for a photo with him etc. They were perfect gentlemen for the rest of the day. One guy kept telling me what type of punch landed and when “Because I noticed you were writing away, fella” and another one came out with that old “You should write a book about me!” chestnut.

Scariest thing I’ve seen didn’t involve crowd trouble. It was at Haye-Barrett and some lone nut was dancing in the stands. For some reason he decided to leap over the concrete barrier, presumably without realising there was a substantial drop on the other side. We heard the thud of him hitting the concrete floor and the ambulance people rushed over to him. I’m not sure what happened next as a fight was taking place and the next round had started.

Froch-Groves at Wembley had its fair share of coked up knobs. Entering the toilets was like entering Mad Max. Lots of tarts dressed up like hookers. I went to the event with my stepdad and it was his first boxing event.


I remember John Ryder walked past me and I'm about 5'11/6ft and he seemed bloody tiny. He looked about 5'7 in person. Anyway the actual event itself went by pretty well in regards to trouble and we got chatting to a couple of young guys from London and they were a good laugh.

We got a coach back to Kent as part of the package of the ticket and that's where trouble did occur. A bunch of about 7 or 8 coked up guys, 3 or 4 who were huge were seriously rowdy and obviously looking for trouble. One started kicking the back of my stepdad's chair and shouting poo. I didn't know what o do at this point. Luckily it never went beyond that point but it was intimidating atmosphere all the way back to put it mildly. They kept shouting at the coach driver to play specific music and at one point we had the opening dance track from Blade blaring out (the track in the nightclub scene right at the beginning of the film) down the motorway. Then when we were all about to get off the coach when we reached our destination- one scrawny little fornicator from the same group starts shouting in my face and asks me if I've had a good night. I reply yeah and then he screeches "me too, I'm coked off my effing nut!" It was said in a pretty hostile way though lol.

I dunno if anyone else experienced anything like that at Froch-Groves 2.

Froch Groves 2 - where was that held and how many people were there?

G0mez wrote:

Metal Fingers wrote:
Small-Hall was at the MEN, the guy must have been hit harder than he initially thought!

Got to love Brum fight nights, though. I was at one of those shows and a fight broke out between football fans. They weren’t rival factions, either, as two groups of BCFC fans were kicking off amongst themselves.

I took my little sister to Hatton-Magee years ago and a group of lads threatened us for committing the ultimate crime of scoring Farnell-Groenewald in favour of the away fighter. They asked if I was “One of those posh c*nts” and, ironically, a bunch of Northern Irish lads shouted them down.

Liverpool’s always interesting, on one occasion I was berated for using the toilet as a toilet and delaying the cocaine line (pun intended). Manchester is just as bad, though, as one guy tried forcing some up my nose when I said “No thanks, I’ve never used it” after he kindly offered me a line as I left the toilet.

It’s not unique to boxing. I went to a Stone Roses concert recently and from ages 20-50 the behaviour of some of the blokes was an embarrassment.

I prob got the opponent wrong, but remember it being Mag 7 and Hall's supporters in the tale I read.

Worst atmosphere for me ironically was Khan vs Lawton at Nottingham Arena. Usually it's not a bad venue for fight nights - but the tension and vibe was unlike anything I've seen before ever.

Absolutely idiotic to put "Khan's army" in with a boat load of Stoke supporters after playing Forest that day.

I saw an Asian couple and they had their son and daughter with them, they were aged about 10. The kids were crying and they'd obviously badly misjudged the event as being suitable for seeing their hero Amir - and it was Khan's army that was leading the screaming and swearing. Super hostile bunch of absolute tools.

We ushered the family to stand with us as we had corralled a corner of the underpass. It came very close to a full-scale riot at one point - and the security would have stood no chance at all.

Loynesy wrote:Glasgow is an awesome night out - being going occasionally for 25 years.

Back in the day for the Harrison fights at the Braehead arena, never had a bad time there (of course, lots of people pissed/coked, but it was easily navigable)

Appreciate that's delving back the years, but the Commonwealth Games were brilliant (I somehow introduced Alex Arthur to the wife of the president of Malawi).

Was last there for the Bruce Springsteen concert in the early summer. 60, 000 people at Hampden and not a hint of bother.

Incidentally, I do appreciate that analysis does quite hold true for a bunch of coked up/pisses Wedgies, I just wanted to mention that Glasgow can be a wonderful city.