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tigermoth87 wrote:I like Hughie but no way is on this level yet. Hughie is a fighter who has potential but is a slow developed and needs a good 2 or 3 more years fighting Euro and fringe world level opponents before stepping up.

At the moment I would barely put Hughie in the top 30. That's no disrespect to him because for me he's an excellent prospect but needs more development. He's not even in the top 5 in Britain tbh. Excluding AJ; Fury, Haye, Price, Whyte and possibly even Chisora are ahead of him.

I'm not surprised AJ is looking for joke opponents. He's an utter fraud but unfortunately the casuals lap it up.

Maxsplit wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:I like Hughie but no way is on this level yet. Hughie is a fighter who has potential but is a slow developed and needs a good 2 or 3 more years fighting Euro and fringe world level opponents before stepping up.

At the moment I would barely put Hughie in the top 30. That's no disrespect to him because for me he's an excellent prospect but needs more development. He's not even in the top 5 in Britain tbh. Excluding AJ; Fury, Haye, Price, Whyte and possibly even Chisora are ahead of him.

I'm not surprised AJ is looking for joke opponents. He's an utter fraud but unfortunately the casuals lap it up.

Why is Whyte ahead of Hughie? Or rated by anyone?

Hughie has beaten Rudenko and Kassi.

I'm struggling to pick a name in the top 100 Whyte has beaten.

The guy is 29, beaten nobody and gets given immense credit for being knocked out by Anthony Joshua in the same round Dominic Brezeale did.

lefty wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Surely they could put their friendship on hold for a short time? It's been done many times before.

No, he won't fight him.

Lol the funny thing is Whyte said he was willing to fight Hughie. He said its business lol.

MightyWarrior wrote:Bloody awful fight, AJ should be stripped of his tin pot belt if they try to palm this crap off as a title fight.

BitPlayer wrote:Still it's hardly flattering that when choosing between fighting a 21 year old, a 24 year old and a shot 37 year old, he's choosing between the 21 year old and the shot 37 year old.

Killer Blow wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:Personally I dont think Hughie has the tools to bother AJ. I just dont think Hughie has had much opposition in his career at the moment and to be honest I think AJ would knock him out quickly. In all honesty Hughies camp need to put him in with a hungry top 5 contender first to test the water, but he needs to face stiffer boxers before he is really entitled to a world title fight.

Joshua himself isn't even a top 5 contender.

Taansend wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Still it's hardly flattering that when choosing between fighting a 21 year old, a 24 year old and a shot 37 year old, he's choosing between the 21 year old and the shot 37 year old.

Who is the shot 37 year old?

tobyh5 wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:Personally I dont think Hughie has the tools to bother AJ. I just dont think Hughie has had much opposition in his career at the moment and to be honest I think AJ would knock him out quickly. In all honesty Hughies camp need to put him in with a hungry top 5 contender first to test the water, but he needs to face stiffer boxers before he is really entitled to a world title fight.

Joshua himself isn't even a top 5 contender.

Really? I am far from on the train but do not think that is a fair comment.

Top five must have Fury, Klitschko and Wilder in it. Then you can argue Pulev, Ortiz and Joshua for the next three. That is top five contenders with one champion in Fury.

If AJ is not a top five contender, who else have you got to push him down a few notches?

Killer Blow wrote:When I say top 5 I include the champion. Top 5 are Fury, Wlad, Wilder, Povetkin and Ortiz. Joshua and Pulev are 6 and 7, the order is debatable.

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

Deserter wrote:

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

Have I entered some weird parallel universe? I honestly find it hard to envisage anything other than Joshua walking right through Hughie and stopping him in 2 should the match be made any time in the near future (which it shouldn't).

BitPlayer wrote:

Taansend wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Still it's hardly flattering that when choosing between fighting a 21 year old, a 24 year old and a shot 37 year old, he's choosing between the 21 year old and the shot 37 year old.

Who is the shot 37 year old?

Stivern.

daviddee wrote:

Deserter wrote:

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

Have I entered some weird parallel universe? I honestly find it hard to envisage anything other than Joshua walking right through Hughie and stopping him in 2 should the match be made any time in the near future (which it shouldn't).

Why hasn't anyone else walked through Hughie?? He has fought big men??? His jab and movement is world class.. If Joshua charged he would get picked to pieces.. Joshua to slow and predictable im afraid

Taansend wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

Taansend wrote:
Who is the shot 37 year old?

Stivern.

Oh cheers

Stiverne isn't shot. He's as good as he ever was

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

J-C wrote:

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

What makes you sure Hughie is a better boxer than Savon?

daviddee wrote:

J-C wrote:

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

What makes you sure Hughie is a better boxer than Savon?

Its just my opinion both are really really good... Savon seems to switch off for periods. Hughie concentrates for full rounds.. I believe Kassi and Rudenko better than anyone Joshua has fought

daviddee wrote:

Deserter wrote:

daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills

Have I entered some weird parallel universe? I honestly find it hard to envisage anything other than Joshua walking right through Hughie and stopping him in 2 should the match be made any time in the near future (which it shouldn't).

Why hasn't anyone else walked through Hughie?? He has fought big men??? His jab and movement is world class.. If Joshua charged he would get picked to pieces.. Joshua to slow and predictable im afraid

Coco wrote:

daviddee wrote:

J-C wrote:
What makes you sure Hughie is a better boxer than Savon?

Its just my opinion both are really really good... Savon seems to switch off for periods. Hughie concentrates for full rounds.. I believe Kassi and Rudenko better than anyone Joshua has fought

Skills pay the bills, don't matter how hard you hit if you can't land nothing. My main concern about Hughie is his inactivity and illness, but I like an in shape Fury in this. Certainly nothing to lose, Peter Fury would have no interest unless they fancied it.

Horse wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:When I say top 5 I include the champion. Top 5 are Fury, Wlad, Wilder, Povetkin and Ortiz. Joshua and Pulev are 6 and 7, the order is debatable.

Pulev and Parker should both be above Joshua.