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Posted: 27 Jul 2004, 13:46
by stujones
Thomspon was close to defeat - He lost the fight on points on my card anyway.
As for his amazing powers of recovery I was refering to the 4th round of the Rothman fight - I know he was taking a systematic beating before that but he was rocked in the 4th and also in the 9th before he KO'd the champion.
Look at him vs Nelson aswell, rocking, not throwing anything in return looked F'd. Then as soon as the ref comes in to stop it, he is looking focus and screaming at him not to stop it. That shows his recovery ability. Another example was his up and downer against Sellars.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 05:01
by Kilburn
Okay what I should have said was that Thompson wasn't close to being "KO'd" rather than "defeated". It was a good scrap and close although the judges were probably just as fooled by the clowning around and this cost Carl. He certainly didn't mess around in the rematch, but hey maybe his punch resistance suddenly improved for that fight? Now that really would be amazing!
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 05:16
by nickd
Eubank was a blown up middle/super middle - no difference in thompsons punch resistance.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 05:28
by jamesmcdonnell
Kilburn wrote:Okay what I should have said was that Thompson wasn't close to being "KO'd" rather than "defeated". It was a good scrap and close although the judges were probably just as fooled by the clowning around and this cost Carl. He certainly didn't mess around in the rematch, but hey maybe his punch resistance suddenly improved for that fight? Now that really would be amazing!
Thompson may not have messed around in the rematch, but he was behind on all the scorecards before Eubank was stopped with that horrendously swollen eye. Had Eubank taken more time off between bouts, I think he would have done Thompson, it was the swelling recurring which really cost him the bout, though of course, perhaps Thompson would have stopped him anyway.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 06:08
by Kilburn
Hey Eubank did great, no question about that. He just didn't shake Thompson up, that's my only argument.
It sometimes frustrates me that all the people that take the piss out of Eubank probably didn't even see his last 3 fights on Sky, where he really showed what a tough SOB he was.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 06:10
by jamesmcdonnell
I think those fights cemented his position as one of the toughest and bravest fighters ever.
Although Watson should have already been champion after his first fight with Eubank, the shot Eubank found in their rematch was unbelievable. To come off of the floor like that and deliver such a mammoth shot was incredible.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 09:04
by Hardhitters11
Eubank was one of the toughest fighters out there without a doubt, He was a much better boxer/fighter than given credit for as well....
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 09:09
by jamesmcdonnell
The thing which hurt him were his bad nights, when he could be made to look very ordinary. He often seemed to fight to the level of his opponent.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 09:21
by DavidPayne
His high points were the Watson and Benn wins.
The overseas performance against Rochiagna
And his brilliant display versus Wharton.
Outside that his courage versus Thompson won just as many fans.
His negatives were the ten fights in a year period, the Close fights etc.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 09:28
by Kilburn
DavidPayne wrote:
Outside that his courage versus Thompson won just as many fans.
Only from those that actually saw the fights, which were tucked away on Sky Box Office, along with the Calzaghe war.
Posted: 28 Jul 2004, 09:29
by journeyman
DavidPayne wrote:His high points were the Watson and Benn wins.
The overseas performance against Rochiagna
And his brilliant display versus Wharton.
Outside that his courage versus Thompson won just as many fans.
His negatives were the ten fights in a year period, the Close fights etc.
that fight against rochigianni was a great performance - away from home, in front of a really hostile crowd and an opponent who towered over him, eubank barely lost a round on my card taking a 9-3 win. the big kraut just didn;t have an answer.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 08:16
by Loftgroov
I loved Eubank. Christ if only there was a boxer with some character about him now...
Love him, or hate him (and I loved him!) everyone had a view on Eubank.
Do people (not us, I mean "the masses") have a view on e.g Ricky Hatton? Of course they don't. Most don't even know who he is.
Eubank... then Naz... now nobody... its a shame how the characters have seemingly gone out of the game.
David Haye is the only hope I think. He's not brash, but good-looking and articulate. People will like him. There isn't anyone else.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 08:49
by jamesmcdonnell
Haye has the potential to be the poster boy of British boxing, could attract a huge female following with his persona and looks.
Shame that BBC boxing coverage seems to be shrinking up like a salted slug.