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Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 05:39
by Horse
LancashireLoyal wrote:Thats the problem,when a top 10 fighter gets beaten its too easy to drop them right out of the picture based on that one defeat,when you take this into conparison withhow a fighter got there in the first place its not balanced.Example,Wladimir was in most peoples top 5 or at least top ten now hes had one defeat hes pretty muchout of ppls lists alltogether.
I try not to overreact to losses and have fighters plummet down the rankings, but that makes me some kind of idiot to a lot of people.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 06:57
by BigDoofus
DannyMCR wrote:Amir Khan?
Last won a world title at 24 years old, he turns 30 this year. At this rate he will slip out of the top 30 in about 30 years.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 07:04
by fightfan95
Stuarty30 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Same complaints as last month but not much can be done since August is a barren month for boxing. Frampton should be number 1 and the overrated Khan is too high etc...
Khan is underrated.

He's had a great career.
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.

If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
I wanna see Stuarty30's list! I think I will agree with everything! :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 07:14
by Stuarty
fightfan95 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Horse wrote:Khan is underrated.

He's had a great career.
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.

If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
I wanna see Stuarty30's list! I think I will agree with everything! :TU:
I've not got the time for lists man. I just like complaining about Horses lists :lol: To be fair to him they're usually pretty decent but he's a stubborn fornicator when it comes to his favourites.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 07:25
by fightfan95
Stuarty30 wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.

If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
I wanna see Stuarty30's list! I think I will agree with everything! :TU:
I've not got the time for lists man. I just like complaining about Horses lists :lol: To be fair to him they're usually pretty decent but he's a stubborn fornicator when it comes to his favourites.
Haha fair enough! Yeah I'm not complaining about Horse's just some questionable choices :lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 09:28
by Fitzy901
If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 09:29
by Fitzy901
Do not know how the fornicate you can have Groves and Khan in the top ten when neither are world champion's or beat any solid fighters in there weight catogories for the last five years. :lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 09:46
by Horse
Fitzy901 wrote:If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.
Linares isn't any sort of a P4P'er, so beating him puts Crolla nowhere near Frampton or Fury's level.
Fitzy901 wrote:Do not know how the eff you can have Groves and Khan in the top ten when neither are world champion's or beat any solid fighters in there weight catogories for the last five years. :lol:
You don't know anything about boxing.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 09:51
by Ian1973
Fitzy901 wrote:If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.

No offence but that is just nonsense.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 09:52
by Tomasino
mickey1975 wrote:
Horse wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:Murray too low.
When he gets another win or good loss then he'll climb back up the rankings.
Good lad. A few more good hidings and he'll be number one.

:lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 10:31
by Manchester Massive
Fitzy901 wrote:Do not know how the eff you can have Groves and Khan in the top ten when neither are world champion's or beat any solid fighters in there weight catogories for the last five years. :lol:
Correct, unfortunately you cannot reason with stupidity

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 10:48
by Horse
Manchester Massive wrote:Correct, unfortunately you cannot reason with stupidity
'Great' minds think alike.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:31
by sammy95
The only change I would make is dropping Khan down two or three places, purely on recent form.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:32
by Fitzy901
I don't think Khan belongs in the top ten to be honest, he has had one decent win in the last five years, of which was againt's a Devon Alexander who was massively on the slide.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:34
by Horse
Fitzy901 wrote:I don't think Khan belongs in the top ten to be honest, he has had one decent win in the last five years, of which was againt's a Devon Alexander who was massively on the slide.
Khan has plenty of decent wins in the last 5 years.

They are not that impressive by Khan's standards, but that is only because Khan is so impressive.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:44
by Fitzy901
Horse wrote:
Fitzy901 wrote:I don't think Khan belongs in the top ten to be honest, he has had one decent win in the last five years, of which was againt's a Devon Alexander who was massively on the slide.
Khan has plenty of decent wins in the last 5 years.

They are not that impressive by Khan's standards, but that is only because Khan is so impressive.
Impressive when mate?

Beating Collazo who lost to Hatton in 2006? Going life and death with Algeri?

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:46
by Horse
sammy95 wrote:The only change I would make is dropping Khan down two or three places, purely on recent form.
Khan should be dropping a bit, but the lower top 10 is being a bit inactive and allowing him to cling on to his high position fairly easily.

He should drop soon, unless he comes back.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:49
by Horse
Fitzy901 wrote:Impressive when mate?

Beating Collazo who lost to Hatton in 2006? Going life and death with Algeri?
Khan's only been disappointing in recent years, because we all know that he could have done so much more.

Khan is a fantastic talent, but he's not living up to his potential.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 11:59
by Fitzy901
Horse wrote:
Fitzy901 wrote:Impressive when mate?

Beating Collazo who lost to Hatton in 2006? Going life and death with Algeri?
Khan's only been disappointing in recent years, because we all know that he could have done so much more.

Khan is a fantastic talent, but he's not living up to his potential.

He is a solid world level fighter but he is not an elite and peaked in 10/11.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 04:02
by Andrew
Ian1973 wrote:
Fitzy901 wrote:If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.

No offence but that is just nonsense.

Yeah that's stupid Linares is just being overhyped by matchroom when really his resume is not that good plus Crolla is favourite to win the fight Franpton was a 2-1 underdog against LSC.

End of argument.

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 04:10
by BigDoofus
Fitzy901 wrote:I don't think Khan belongs in the top ten to be honest, he has had one decent win in the last five years, of which was againt's a Devon Alexander who was massively on the slide.
Alexander's next fight was a loss to Aaron Martinez who had only won one out of the previous four (and that was a majority decision against a guy with a 50-50 record).

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 04:11
by BigDoofus
Tomasino wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Horse wrote:When he gets another win or good loss then he'll climb back up the rankings.
Good lad. A few more good hidings and he'll be number one.

:lol:
:lol: :lol:

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 06:34
by Fitzy901
Naandrew wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:
Fitzy901 wrote:If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.

No offence but that is just nonsense.

Yeah that's stupid Linares is just being overhyped by matchroom when really his resume is not that good plus Crolla is favourite to win the fight Franpton was a 2-1 underdog against LSC.

End of argument.

Thanks for that nerd. I think you missed the bit where i put ''personally''

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 06:37
by Fitzy901
Naandrew wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:
Fitzy901 wrote:If Crolla beats Linares then personally, I believe he should be in at number one with Frampton second.

No offence but that is just nonsense.

Yeah that's stupid Linares is just being overhyped by matchroom when really his resume is not that good plus Crolla is favourite to win the fight Franpton was a 2-1 underdog against LSC.

End of argument.

Thanks for that nerd. I think you missed the bit where i put ''personally''

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 06:50
by Horse
Fitzy901 wrote:Thanks for that nerd. I think you missed the bit where i put ''personally''
Putting "personally" in your post doesn't make your opinion any less dumb.