BoxRec

And we're taking Price's opinion seriously, because.....?

He's been exposed by modest opposition, and has made a desperate/pathetic attempt at landing a fight with Britain's current golden boy.

I'm not a massive fan of Anthony Joshua, but he'll just ignore Price.

ILikeBeer wrote:And we're taking Price's opinion seriously, because.....?

He's been exposed by modest opposition, and has made a desperate/pathetic attempt at landing a fight with Britain's current golden boy.

I'm not a massive fan of Anthony Joshua, but he'll just ignore Price.

Couldn't agree more AJ has bigger fish to fry (hopefully not Martin & Brezeale) he is looking for them big unifications against Fury & Wilder

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Glad you asked

Champion: Tyson Fury

1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Bermane Stiverne
8. Joseph Parker
9. Bryant Jennings
10. Carlos Takam

11. Johann Duhaupas
12. Artur Szpilka
13. Vyacheslav Glazkov
14. Dominic Breazeale
15. Charles Martin
16. Gerald Washington
17. Andy Ruiz Jr.
18. Jarrell Miller
19. David Haye
20. Oscar Rivas

There's at least 5 or 6 other guys I'd rank ahead of Chisora even still from this point.

Stiverne? Glazkov? Martin? I very much doubt it TBH. Jun Long Zhang, Whyte, Hughie Fury, Mansour and Ugonoh on the other hand...

Whyte and Ugonoh are too unproven IMO. I think it's fairly debatable, Chisora is a lot more proven than a lot of these people, but his limitations have also been shown mroe clearly. Personally I'd put Chisora in top 15.

Breazeale should probably be lower, top 20 maybe, but not that high IMO.

I'm not impressed with Breazeale's talent too much, but his win over Mansour is better than a lot of these other Heavyweights' best win.

kbackup408 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Stiverne? Glazkov? Martin? I very much doubt it TBH. Jun Long Zhang, Whyte, Hughie Fury, Mansour and Ugonoh on the other hand...

Whyte and Ugonoh are too unproven IMO. I think it's fairly debatable, Chisora is a lot more proven than a lot of these people, but his limitations have also been shown mroe clearly. Personally I'd put Chisora in top 15.

Breazeale should probably be lower, top 20 maybe, but not that high IMO.

yeah I agree I am not saying Chisora is a world beater and a guaranteed top 10 but he put in some solid performances against Klit, Fury(one) and performance against Pulev wasn't horrible just very poor conditioning

I'd like to see Chisora fight someone I think is on his level like say a Mansour or an Arreola or hell even a David Price or someone like that. If he got a decent win to his credit he might find himself in the Top 20, but doing half decent in losses isn't gonna get you there. Especially considering that all of his recent losses have been pretty one sided.

gilgamesh wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Stiverne? Glazkov? Martin? I very much doubt it TBH. Jun Long Zhang, Whyte, Hughie Fury, Mansour and Ugonoh on the other hand...

Whyte and Ugonoh are too unproven IMO. I think it's fairly debatable, Chisora is a lot more proven than a lot of these people, but his limitations have also been shown mroe clearly. Personally I'd put Chisora in top 15.

Breazeale should probably be lower, top 20 maybe, but not that high IMO.

I'm not impressed with Breazeale's talent too much, but his win over Mansour is better than a lot of these other Heavyweights' best win.

I'm not sure I even consider that a legit win TBH. It sounds like it was a bit of a freak injury, plus Mansour had a cold.

gilgamesh wrote:

kbackup408 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: Whyte and Ugonoh are too unproven IMO. I think it's fairly debatable, Chisora is a lot more proven than a lot of these people, but his limitations have also been shown mroe clearly. Personally I'd put Chisora in top 15.

Breazeale should probably be lower, top 20 maybe, but not that high IMO.

yeah I agree I am not saying Chisora is a world beater and a guaranteed top 10 but he put in some solid performances against Klit, Fury(one) and performance against Pulev wasn't horrible just very poor conditioning

I'd like to see Chisora fight someone I think is on his level like say a Mansour or an Arreola or hell even a David Price or someone like that. If he got a decent win to his credit he might find himself in the Top 20, but doing half decent in losses isn't gonna get you there. Especially considering that all of his recent losses have been pretty one sided.

I very much agree with the bold, is career at the moment is being managed awfully. He hasn't had a good win since Fury 2.

You break a guys jaw, and make him about bite his tongue in half it's a legit win, and for the record I don't have Chisora in my Top 20 because IMO he really doesn't have any particularly solid wins. The closest he ever came to a defining win is Robert Helenius (where he was robbed) that and the effort against Vitali Klitschko is what has kept him relevant all this time, but considering how long ago those results were they don't carry much weight for me. That's why I call him Dereck "Loser to the Stars" Chisora. That's his role, and he'll play it until nobody has any interest anymore.

His jaw was never broken. That was a misreporting AFAIK

BitPlayer wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: Whyte and Ugonoh are too unproven IMO. I think it's fairly debatable, Chisora is a lot more proven than a lot of these people, but his limitations have also been shown mroe clearly. Personally I'd put Chisora in top 15.

Breazeale should probably be lower, top 20 maybe, but not that high IMO.

I'm not impressed with Breazeale's talent too much, but his win over Mansour is better than a lot of these other Heavyweights' best win.

I'm not sure I even consider that a legit win TBH. It sounds like it was a bit of a freak injury, plus Mansour had a cold.

Not just a cold, Mansour had a car accident just before and was advised not to fight at all, on top of that he bit on his tongue by accident very early in the fight. Nevertheless he was still completely dominating Breazeale in every single way and even knocked him down. Sadly, he injured himself, gave Breazeale an unnormal high rank Breazeale never deserved and Joshua jumped on him as soon as he could.