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Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 13:53
by asdfjkl
Horse wrote:Fitzy901 wrote:Why not..
Because Joshua will get destroyed and it's not even the biggest money-spinning fight out there for Joshua, especially at this sort of short notice.
Joshua hasn't even stepped up to fight the level of opponent that Wladimir used to dominate (like Pulev or Jennings) yet.
Actually, Jennings wasn't really completely dominated by Klitschko and Jennings is so barely active ever since that he's ranked way lower as many of AJ his opponends.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 13:53
by Horse
coneye wrote:Its self explanatory really, , We have a nutcase who no one wants to fight except a 41 year old man holding some belts ,even then its a rematch thats took over a year and still getting cancelled .,
We have Aj who's never fought a top 10 contender holding a belt ,,
We have Wilder who refuses to fight anyone who can hit back holding a belt , would'nt say the heavyweight scene is at its best would you ,, especielly when you have AJ's promoter who can't really make his mind up wether his world champ is ready to fight another up and comer (parker ) who himself has'nt even been tested , and make no bones about it Eddie seems to be scouring the world , for opponents who refuse the life changing money he offers but never mentions how much it is .
Boxing is becoming a bigger and bigger joke
I still don't get it.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:00
by skanksta
Horse wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:I know, the fight probably won't happen and all, but there's no harm in dreaming. Would be the perfect way for Wlad to end his career.
Destroying some hypejob would be an alright end to his career, but hardly perfect.
Destroying some (17-0 (17KOs) Olympic Gold medallist in front of 50,000 fans on PPV) "hype job" would still be a fantastic end to a great career.

Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:03
by coneye
Horse wrote:coneye wrote:Its self explanatory really, , We have a nutcase who no one wants to fight except a 41 year old man holding some belts ,even then its a rematch thats took over a year and still getting cancelled .,
We have Aj who's never fought a top 10 contender holding a belt ,,
We have Wilder who refuses to fight anyone who can hit back holding a belt , would'nt say the heavyweight scene is at its best would you ,, especielly when you have AJ's promoter who can't really make his mind up wether his world champ is ready to fight another up and comer (parker ) who himself has'nt even been tested , and make no bones about it Eddie seems to be scouring the world , for opponents who refuse the life changing money he offers but never mentions how much it is .
Boxing is becoming a bigger and bigger joke
I
still don't get it.

I do like your sence of humor

Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:03
by Horse
skanksta wrote:Destroying some (17-0 (17KOs) Olympic Gold medallist in front of 50,000 fans on PPV) "hype job" would still be a fantastic end to a great career.

It might not even make it into Wlad's top 10 best wins.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:07
by skanksta
Horse wrote:skanksta wrote:Destroying some (17-0 (17KOs) Olympic Gold medallist in front of 50,000 fans on PPV) "hype job" would still be a fantastic end to a great career.

It might not even make it into Wlad's top 10 best wins.

the trolling, unless...
You want to list Wlad's 10 best wins, explaining in a few lines why each is better than AJ right now ?!
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:09
by asdfjkl
coneye wrote:Tuan_Jim wrote:Horse wrote:In what way?
What do you mean in what way?
Its self explanatory really, , We have a nutcase who no one wants to fight except a 41 year old man holding some belts ,even then its a rematch thats took over a year and still getting cancelled .,
We have Aj who's never fought a top 10 contender holding a belt ,,
We have Wilder who refuses to fight anyone who can hit back holding a belt , would'nt say the heavyweight scene is at its best would you ,, especielly when you have AJ's promoter who can't really make his mind up wether his world champ is ready to fight another up and comer (parker ) who himself has'nt even been tested , and make no bones about it Eddie seems to be scouring the world , for opponents who refuse the life changing money he offers but never mentions how much it is .
Boxing is becoming a bigger and bigger joke
On paper Joshua fought one actually.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:11
by Horse
skanksta wrote: 
the trolling, unless...
You want to list Wlad's 10 best wins, explaining in a few lines why each is better than AJ right now ?!
Wlad has beaten more than 10 fighters more proven than Joshua.
Joshua would only qualify as one of Wlad's top 10 best wins if we assume that he is capable of achieving more than he has so far.
If Joshua goes on to prove that he isn't capable of beating world class opposition then he won't be one of Wlad's best wins.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:21
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:Better than sniffing the other pfft heavyweight champs dirty duds any day of the week. Joshua is the future.
No.
Joshua has done nothing, yet people talk about him like he's an ATG. It's pathetic.
Can't they at least wait for him to beat one genuine top 15 ranked heavyweight?
Hes still the future.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:24
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:Hes still the future.
I doubt it.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:29
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:Hes still the future.
I doubt it.
Of course he is. Lets stop scaubbling like kids on who has the biggest daddy. Fury is so last year.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:33
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:Of course he is. Lets stop scaubbling like kids on who has the biggest daddy. Fury is so last year.
And Joshua has no year.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:35
by davie
coneye wrote:Tuan_Jim wrote:Horse wrote:In what way?
What do you mean in what way?
Its self explanatory really, , We have a nutcase who no one wants to fight except a 41 year old man holding some belts ,even then its a rematch thats took over a year and still getting cancelled .,
We have Aj who's never fought a top 10 contender holding a belt ,,
We have Wilder who refuses to fight anyone who can hit back holding a belt , would'nt say the heavyweight scene is at its best would you ,, especielly when you have AJ's promoter who can't really make his mind up wether his world champ is ready to fight another up and comer (parker ) who himself has'nt even been tested , and make no bones about it Eddie seems to be scouring the world , for opponents who refuse the life changing money he offers but never mentions how much it is .
Boxing is becoming a bigger and bigger joke
When you have non title holders like Wlad, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Haye waiting on the shots and the fights can't be made, it's hard to argue with you.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:36
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:Of course he is. Lets stop scaubbling like kids on who has the biggest daddy. Fury is so last year.
And Joshua has no year.
What kind of 12 months has Mr Fury had then?
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:37
by Tuan_Jim
Wladimir's "10 best wins" would be hilarious to see written down. I wonder how quickly the bloated 42 year old hep-riddled cadaver of Ray Mercer would pop up?
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:38
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:What kind of 12 months has Mr Fury had then?
He became the undisputed heavyweight champion.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:40
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:What kind of 12 months has Mr Fury had then?
He became the undisputed heavyweight champion.
And then? The following......?
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:42
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:And then? The following......?
Reigned as champion.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:45
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:And then? The following......?
Reigned as champion.
And then?
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 14:47
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:And then?
The reign continued.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 15:02
by freddydoesdallas
They should be all over this fight. Build up excuses for why wlad lost the first match and add in a line 'that fury knows he was lucky and won't rematch' and they can be the man that killed the king in a lot of people's eyes.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 15:05
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:mimmy123 wrote:And then?
The reign continued.
Im reading between the lines here and get the impression with what you have written that Mr Fury has cancelled 2 rematches and failed a body enhansing drug test. Sounds like a decent world champion to me, bet hes a great role model to kids who live boxing.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 15:11
by BitPlayer
Horse wrote:skanksta wrote:Destroying some (17-0 (17KOs) Olympic Gold medallist in front of 50,000 fans on PPV) "hype job" would still be a fantastic end to a great career.

It might not even make it into Wlad's top 10 best wins.
Still be fine for a swansong if he felt like he was done, as long as he won in style.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 19:27
by Like a Boss
Wlad has obviously been in training for Fury. But a Wlad vs Joshua fight would surely need more lead-time and more planning than the couple of months remaining would allow.
But it is, at the very least, some nice promotional work on the part of Hearn, and after all that is what he gets paid for.
Re: AJ vs Wladimir...
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 03:40
by Tarkus
Yes it is a big risk for AJ but so is Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin, even Wilder. He has no place to hide no more. But all three belts must be on the line. Get rid of the lazy bum and reunite the titles.