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Freedom2013 wrote:Klitschko’s manager: If UKAD informed us about Fury’s tests, we would’ve used VADA for the first fight

Wlad on his high horse regarding PEDs, now that's funny.

x2x wrote:Yeah he doesn't talk in politically corrected platitudes approved by the ruling reptiles...which is just why I like him!!!

"Politically correct" or not, the guy's an asshole, plain and simple. Having said that I don't think he should be stripped for using coke, a non-PED. You can be a raging alcoholic and fight, but do a line of coke or smoke some weed and all hell breaks loose.

Didn't really hide it very well either. Here's a video from the European football championships in France this summer where he was mixing with a England fans. he's singing (quite enthusiastically)

"Don't take me home
Please don't take me home
I just don't wanna go to work
I wanna stay here
And sniff all your gear
Please don't, please don't take me home"

The version generally sung was same but with "drink all your beer" not "sniff all your gear"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y3nTM4BrCU

Here he is at a rave In North Wales (20 miles away from me) back in June. This was 4 weeks before the original rematch was cancelled and he was "enjoying himself" by all accounts.



https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1277240/ ... o-rematch/

From back in June on Brit forum. In short, the evidence has clearly been out there and if we see all the signs the powers that be must've been onto it too.

Wales wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:
Going to a dance festival without pills?

Haha spot on. Not sure how ANYONE could enjoy something like that totally sober from beer or anything else.

Spoke to a lad who was working security there...

"He was off his head doing handbrake turns in fields, not arsed one bit "

I replied "off his head as in just being the hyperactive version of Fury?"

"No. He was twatted mate"

Coke Addiction ... in Fury's case, an addiction of excess.
Normally gets less pity than the abused kid who got hooked.
Also, factor in all that Christian nonsense ... do people still think god is real?

Fury is a dickhead.
Now he's a dickhead who sat on a belt for a year.
Now he's a dickhead whose greatest win was the worst championship fight in history.

Hope he comes back to the ring for the loss he deserves.

x2x wrote:What a lot of baloney. All the little girls are wringing their hands over the horror the horror of it....and meanwhile they have had at least three presidents in a row who have been out and out dopers. Obama here had photos taken happily smoking joints and plenty of other stories about him using hard drugs; Baby Bush was also a doper and that's why his medical records got "disappeared" (everything of Obama's got disappeared, if it ever even existed, same with Michelle Obama); and Slick Willy Clinton's own brother said he had "a nose like a vacuum cleaner", referring to his illegal cocaine use.

And of course here is the real reason why the media and these guys hate him, to quote the last guy:

"he's a loud mouth with horrible, horrible opinions"

Yeah he doesn't talk in politically corrected platitudes approved by the ruling reptiles...which is just why I like him!!!

A line of thinking basically only ever broken out in defense of hate speech... wonder why that is.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Also, factor in all that Christian nonsense ... do people still think god is real?

.

I think in US around 70% believe in God (according to survey on something like 100,000 people)
UK is about 35%.

As for thinking "a" god is real, look at these Muslim fundementalists! They believe.

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

Classic case of being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it. Fury has aimed a lot of hate towards fellow boxers and towards about half a dozen groups. Sometimes I do think he's funny, sometimes he's very funny. But when Fury has said Wlad is a boring fighter, which has a lot of truth to that, he gets all bent out of shape when he reads that he can be boring in the ring too.

I literally Laughed Out Loud, when he told Haye to go fock his own Mother, but then when he gets criticized he whines nonstop.

Yes, shoving Cunningham, dissing this group or that group sells tickets, and there is something ingenious about that, but when you're criticized with return fire, don't go crying....

Tony1244 wrote:

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

Classic case of being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it. Fury has aimed a lot of hate towards fellow boxers and towards about half a dozen groups. Sometimes I do think he's funny, sometimes he's very funny. But when Fury has said Wlad is a boring fighter, which has a lot of truth to that, he gets all bent out of shape when he reads that he can be boring in the ring too.

I literally Laughed Out Loud, when he told Haye to go fock his own Mother, but then when he gets criticized he whines nonstop.

Yes, shoving Cunningham, dissing this group or that group sells tickets, and there is something ingenious about that, but when you're criticized with return fire, don't go crying....

Truth, he's been hypocritical much like all people can and will be at some point. A fucked up brain should be factored in as well, the guy has never seemed all together and it makes sense he cracked up. I don't know how bitter I would be to achieve what he did then get shit on by countless strangers, and I don't have the mental deficiencies he seems to. I'm interested to see how it plays out, but he needs to recover himself before anything much less boxing.

SFW wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

Classic case of being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it. Fury has aimed a lot of hate towards fellow boxers and towards about half a dozen groups. Sometimes I do think he's funny, sometimes he's very funny. But when Fury has said Wlad is a boring fighter, which has a lot of truth to that, he gets all bent out of shape when he reads that he can be boring in the ring too.

I literally Laughed Out Loud, when he told Haye to go fock his own Mother, but then when he gets criticized he whines nonstop.

Yes, shoving Cunningham, dissing this group or that group sells tickets, and there is something ingenious about that, but when you're criticized with return fire, don't go crying....

Truth, he's been hypocritical much like all people can and will be at some point. A fucked up brain should be factored in as well, the guy has never seemed all together and it makes sense he cracked up. I don't know how bitter I would be to achieve what he did then get poo on by countless strangers, and I don't have the mental deficiencies he seems to. I'm interested to see how it plays out, but he needs to recover himself before anything much less boxing.

True, we are all hypocrites on one level or another. I generally support one's right to make bad decisions or to say stupid things, but we as fans have the right to like someone less or to not like them at all if we don't like what they say.

Tony1244 wrote:

SFW wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Classic case of being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it. Fury has aimed a lot of hate towards fellow boxers and towards about half a dozen groups. Sometimes I do think he's funny, sometimes he's very funny. But when Fury has said Wlad is a boring fighter, which has a lot of truth to that, he gets all bent out of shape when he reads that he can be boring in the ring too.

I literally Laughed Out Loud, when he told Haye to go fock his own Mother, but then when he gets criticized he whines nonstop.

Yes, shoving Cunningham, dissing this group or that group sells tickets, and there is something ingenious about that, but when you're criticized with return fire, don't go crying....

Truth, he's been hypocritical much like all people can and will be at some point. A fucked up brain should be factored in as well, the guy has never seemed all together and it makes sense he cracked up. I don't know how bitter I would be to achieve what he did then get poo on by countless strangers, and I don't have the mental deficiencies he seems to. I'm interested to see how it plays out, but he needs to recover himself before anything much less boxing.

True, we are all hypocrites on one level or another. I generally support one's right to make bad decisions or to say stupid things, but we as fans have the right to like someone less or to not like them at all if we don't like what they say.

Very true, what they do influences our opinion. A drugged out crazy person has earned criticism, regardless of profession. But I can't blame Fury for having a screw loose from birth which is what I suspect is the case. Though that has yet to be "medically confirmed" it is definitely possible.I figured everyone who heard or saw the guy just for a moment figured he was nuts. Seemed pretty clear.

Freedom2013 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL2nsh-g4SQ

I'm not going to listen to an interview from back in May. Seriously? Look, Fury has said (and done) some really stupid things, including saying how little he thinks of boxing in general....something like the sport is a big pile of shit. Add that to his homophobic, anti-women, etc rants, and it all add up to him being a sad excuse for a human being, as far as I am concerned. He made his bed, now he can sleep in it. Strip him, let him hit bottom and earn his way back up. He should not expect to get any sympathy, and why the hell would anyone even try to empathize? I doubt if he has the sand to work his way back up, but if he does, props to him.

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

So is it fair to assume you're not homosexual or Jewish?

Rob3_142 wrote:

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

So is it fair to assume you're not homosexual or Jewish?

I'm not vindictive, or interested.. He can say whatever the fornicate he wants, just like anyone.

SFW wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

So is it fair to assume you're not homosexual or Jewish?

I'm not vindictive, or interested.. He can say whatever the eff he wants, just like anyone.

If that is your mentality, then prepare to be ostracised your discriminatory viewpoints.

Please explain my discriminatory viewpoints. I did not agree with any of his. So please explain yourself. I said he can say anything he wants... and he can.

People are gonna bitch, cry, and moan no matter what. Means very little.

Today's Tyson Fury news: He's going to do the reality show "I'm a Celeb, Get Me Out Of Here" with ITV.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/tyso ... ar_twitter

Rob3_142 wrote:

SFW wrote:The hate for this guy is unreal.. people turn into sniveling lil bitches so fast when Fury gets mentioned. Same hate he always got though nothing new. Hope he gets his head together, no ill will towards him at all. That's what a decent person would hope for, rare quality I guess.

So is it fair to assume you're not homosexual or Jewish?

At first I thought Fury's motivation was to sell tickets. A Jewish person or gay person or anyone offended may buy tickets because they want to see Fury get beat. Muhammad Ali talked about learning from Gorgeous George the concept of selling tickets thru negative motivation.

But now, its clear these politically incorrect statements were due more to severe mood swings. Unhappy people lash out at everyone.

I like people and writers who are politically incorrect. Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are always a blast to read even though they're at different ends of the political spectrum. George Carlin, Seth MacFarlane, and the creators of South Park all have been as un PC as you can get.

The bottom line is Tyson Fury isn't smart enough to be politically incorrect. He just comes across as nasty and stupid. A far cry from intelligent stereotyping like the names above have done.

SFW wrote:Please explain my discriminatory viewpoints. I did not agree with any of his. So please explain yourself. I said he can say anything he wants... and he can.

People are gonna bitch, cry, and moan no matter what. Means very little.

Fine, you do not agree with or endorse his views, I guess that is a start.

People have turned into 'snivelling little bitches' because Tyson Fury decided to start aimlessly and needlessly targeting minority groups with nasty and vulgar comments. I don't believe many hate Tyson fury (although if some did - it would be to some degree be justified), but many dislike him for what he has said including myself, and every ounce of it was self inflicted.

I don't personally believe that Tyson Fury is depressed, and this situation is merely a backlash of his behaviour. However we will know the severity of his condition when an independent prognosis is made. However him clubbing it up with English fans in Paris singing songs about snorting class A drugs is him at the bottom of the barrel, let's just all be glad that the fans money was there to help him fund this very unique therapy.

I still fully believe a majority of the blame should lie with Fury's team who it seemed did nothing to stop him from behaving like he did. They must have seen him self destructing from a mile away, but just let it happen, and now where has it put him?

Rob3_142 wrote:

SFW wrote:Please explain my discriminatory viewpoints. I did not agree with any of his. So please explain yourself. I said he can say anything he wants... and he can.

People are gonna bitch, cry, and moan no matter what. Means very little.

Fine, you do not agree with or endorse his views, I guess that is a start.

People have turned into 'snivelling little bitches' because Tyson Fury decided to start aimlessly and needlessly targeting minority groups with nasty and vulgar comments. I don't believe many hate Tyson fury (although if some did - it would be to some degree be justified), but many dislike him for what he has said including myself, and every ounce of it was self inflicted.

I don't personally believe that Tyson Fury is depressed, and this situation is merely a backlash of his behaviour. However we will know the severity of his condition when an independent prognosis is made. However him clubbing it up with English fans in Paris singing songs about snorting class A drugs is him at the bottom of the barrel, let's just all be glad that the fans money was there to help him fund this very unique therapy.

I still fully believe a majority of the blame should lie with Fury's team who it seemed did nothing to stop him from behaving like he did. They must have seen him self destructing from a mile away, but just let it happen, and now where has it put him?

Regarding you not thinking Fury is depressed, I disagree. Of course my theory could be wrong, but my theory is his nastiness is the effect, and the cause is cocaine addiction and depression. Of course I'm not saying everyone who has done cocaine will spiral out of control, most don't, but like with alcohol, some do.

Tony1244 wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:
Fine, you do not agree with or endorse his views, I guess that is a start.

People have turned into 'snivelling little bitches' because Tyson Fury decided to start aimlessly and needlessly targeting minority groups with nasty and vulgar comments. I don't believe many hate Tyson fury (although if some did - it would be to some degree be justified), but many dislike him for what he has said including myself, and every ounce of it was self inflicted.

I don't personally believe that Tyson Fury is depressed, and this situation is merely a backlash of his behaviour. However we will know the severity of his condition when an independent prognosis is made. However him clubbing it up with English fans in Paris singing songs about snorting class A drugs is him at the bottom of the barrel, let's just all be glad that the fans money was there to help him fund this very unique therapy.

I still fully believe a majority of the blame should lie with Fury's team who it seemed did nothing to stop him from behaving like he did. They must have seen him self destructing from a mile away, but just let it happen, and now where has it put him?

Regarding you not thinking Fury is depressed, I disagree. Of course my theory could be wrong, but my theory is his nastiness is the effect, and the cause is cocaine addiction and depression. Of course I'm not saying everyone who has done cocaine will spiral out of control, most don't, but like with alcohol, some do.

I'm not saying Fury is or isn't depressed, because I can't say with any kind of certainty. However I suspect, based on his continued behaviour, that he is not. I think it is most likely a personality disorder, which could also account for a lot of what has occurred. I think if Fury was clinically depressed, then he most certainly wouldn't have been giving it all that at the Manchester Arena the day after announcing the postponement of the second Klitchko fight, when in actual fact the postponement apparently occurred a day before the cocaine allegations were going to come to light.

Again could be a coincidence, and I'll be the first to hold my hand up if an independent assessment of his condition discloses that his condition is in fact any form of depression, but I for one do not believe it will.