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Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 07:17
by Loki
geronimo wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Haye could beat anyone. Bi is right that he's shown no interest in stepping up, but there is nobody untouchable to him. I think he'd destroy fury if he went for it.
"Haye could beat anyone". Please...
Do you remember the Klitschko fight?
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:00
by SaadOffTheDeck
I do. Neither of them did a thing. Definitely not a class issue. It was effort.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:34
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote:asdfjkl wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
Arreola is still Top 60 and Stiverne beat him twice. Stiverne definitely sucks and there's definitely a lot of guys in the Top 20 and 30 I could see beating him, but I think he'd beat some guys within the Top 60 surely.
Briggs wouldn't beat any fighter with a pulse anymore. He has no intention of trying either until there's a lot of money in it for him. All he wants anymore is one last payday.
Briggs already offered to fight for free and already won against several gys who were ranked within the top 100 at the time. Sadly nobody within the top 60, except for Parker, dared to fight Briggs. Briggs has challenged many, many guys with padded fake records. Especially the older guys who have absolutely nothing to look for in the top of the division. Like Haye, Wilder, Browne, Briggs in fact leaves real champs that aren't after a payday, like AJ, Parker, name them, completely alone.
Everybody with a pulse beats Briggs. The entire Top 40 beats Briggs.
Lol, let Charles Martin prove it? Or Wilder? Or Haye? Or any of the other fake hypejobs?
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:40
by Tony1244
asdfjkl wrote:gilgamesh wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Briggs already offered to fight for free and already won against several gys who were ranked within the top 100 at the time. Sadly nobody within the top 60, except for Parker, dared to fight Briggs. Briggs has challenged many, many guys with padded fake records. Especially the older guys who have absolutely nothing to look for in the top of the division. Like Haye, Wilder, Browne, Briggs in fact leaves real champs that aren't after a payday, like AJ, Parker, name them, completely alone.
Everybody with a pulse beats Briggs. The entire Top 40 beats Briggs.
Lol, let Charles Martin prove it? Or Wilder? Or Haye? Or any of the other fake hypejobs?
Briggs is the King of fake hype jobs.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:43
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote:gilgamesh wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Briggs already offered to fight for free and already won against several gys who were ranked within the top 100 at the time. Sadly nobody within the top 60, except for Parker, dared to fight Briggs. Briggs has challenged many, many guys with padded fake records. Especially the older guys who have absolutely nothing to look for in the top of the division. Like Haye, Wilder, Browne, Briggs in fact leaves real champs that aren't after a payday, like AJ, Parker, name them, completely alone.
Everybody with a pulse beats Briggs. The entire Top 40 beats Briggs.
Lol, let Charles Martin prove it? Or Wilder? Or Haye? Or any of the other fake hypejobs?
They all would beat Briggs I figure. But I'm with you, I'd like to see 'em prove it. Briggs vs David Price or Dereck Chisora or Chris Arreola seems more appropriate than any of those guys though.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:44
by gilgamesh
Tony1244 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
Everybody with a pulse beats Briggs. The entire Top 40 beats Briggs.
Lol, let Charles Martin prove it? Or Wilder? Or Haye? Or any of the other fake hypejobs?
Briggs is the King of fake hype jobs.
I mean he's not a fake hypejob he was a decent fighter in his prime he's just been shot for at least 8 years and nobody seems to get that.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 15:56
by Tony1244
gilgamesh wrote:Tony1244 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Lol, let Charles Martin prove it? Or Wilder? Or Haye? Or any of the other fake hypejobs?
Briggs is the King of fake hype jobs.
I mean he's not a fake hypejob he was a decent fighter in his prime he's just been shot for at least 8 years and nobody seems to get that.
Or perhaps everyone gets that except Briggs. After I wrote it, I realized Haye is pretty much of a hype job at this point too.
I don't get all the animus towards Martin though. Martin is simply a limited fighter who stepped up and got knocked out. Nothing really wrong with that.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 16:06
by asdfjkl
Tony1244 wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Tony1244 wrote:
Briggs is the King of fake hype jobs.
I mean he's not a fake hypejob he was a decent fighter in his prime he's just been shot for at least 8 years and nobody seems to get that.
Or perhaps everyone gets that except Briggs. After I wrote it, I realized Haye is pretty much of a hype job at this point too.
I don't get all the animus towards Martin though. Martin is simply a limited fighter who stepped up and got knocked out. Nothing really wrong with that.
He still got an amazingly high rank, I'd like to see the same thing to happen to Briggs, but for the time being, nobody with a high rank dares to fight him.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 16:12
by gilgamesh
asdfjkl wrote:Tony1244 wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
I mean he's not a fake hypejob he was a decent fighter in his prime he's just been shot for at least 8 years and nobody seems to get that.
Or perhaps everyone gets that except Briggs. After I wrote it, I realized Haye is pretty much of a hype job at this point too.
I don't get all the animus towards Martin though. Martin is simply a limited fighter who stepped up and got knocked out. Nothing really wrong with that.
He still got an amazingly high rank, I'd like to see the same thing to happen to Briggs, but for the time being, nobody with a high rank dares to fight him.
I think you got that backwards. Briggs isn't even trying to fight anybody with a high rank if there's not a big payday in it for him. I haven't got Haye as a Top 10 fighter anymore either. Nothing since he's made his comeback has indicated he's worthy of a Top 10 ranking again. I have him in the Top 20 though. He'd blitz Briggs inside 2 rounds.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 16:30
by Tony1244
gilgamesh wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Tony1244 wrote:
Or perhaps everyone gets that except Briggs. After I wrote it, I realized Haye is pretty much of a hype job at this point too.
I don't get all the animus towards Martin though. Martin is simply a limited fighter who stepped up and got knocked out. Nothing really wrong with that.
He still got an amazingly high rank, I'd like to see the same thing to happen to Briggs, but for the time being, nobody with a high rank dares to fight him.
I think you got that backwards. Briggs isn't even trying to fight anybody with a high rank if there's not a big payday in it for him. I haven't got Haye as a Top 10 fighter anymore either. Nothing since he's made his comeback has indicated he's worthy of a Top 10 ranking again. I have him in the Top 20 though. He'd blitz Briggs inside 2 rounds.
Not sure who the "you got it backwards," was directed at. I get a lot of things backwards, but I totally agree with the statement: "Briggs isn't even trying to fight anybody with a high rank if there's not a big payday in it for him."
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 16:33
by gilgamesh
Tony1244 wrote:gilgamesh wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
He still got an amazingly high rank, I'd like to see the same thing to happen to Briggs, but for the time being, nobody with a high rank dares to fight him.
I think you got that backwards. Briggs isn't even trying to fight anybody with a high rank if there's not a big payday in it for him. I haven't got Haye as a Top 10 fighter anymore either. Nothing since he's made his comeback has indicated he's worthy of a Top 10 ranking again. I have him in the Top 20 though. He'd blitz Briggs inside 2 rounds.
Not sure who the "you got it backwards," was directed at. I get a lot of things backwards, but I totally agree with the statement: "Briggs isn't even trying to fight anybody with a high rank if there's not a big payday in it for him."
The "You got it backwards" was directed at the guy implying Briggs is being ducked. Nobody fears Briggs. Any Heavyweight of any note beats him.
Re: David Haye to fight on December 10
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 07:10
by SMALL AXE1