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Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 19:10
by King Tubby
forcefraser wrote:
Lenny wrote:The Boomer can't walk down the street without needing to be held back from people.
The problem is that people keep stepping to him and we all know that means they will be going down. It`s what he does, it`s who he is. Strikes first and asks questions after. Believe you me, It`s a s simples as that.

I saw a tweet from the Boomer that simply read "We are SCOUSERS an we will continue to fight"

Love the Boomer.
He loves fighting because he's a Scouser.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 23:01
by forcefraser
I shall not utter the word Boomer for a period of one week. I need that man out of my mind. Enough boomerage for a while.

Need to recharge for the pain the Haye build up will bring.

Understand this Koogs it's gonna be brutal COS I DONT CAAAARE, IT'S WHAT I DO

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 02:10
by Andrew
It was probably all scripted and pre planned. Vince McMahon would have been proud.

Farce of a fight and casual idiots will fall for it thinking Bellew has a chance.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 02:18
by Stevieb8006
coneye wrote:The way i look at it is boxings been going down the drain for years , occasionaly we have a good fight usually between two unknowns , but the main players , thev'e become circus acts . All refusing to fight anyone who can hit back , thev'e become masters at bullshit baffles brains , and King Eddie eggs them on he loves it,he gets to ring up Kugan and say you see it last night , crowds loved it , come round do an interview , and make me more famous , my fans are awaiting my response .

What do you do about it , Well don't get all upset for starters , its boxing , just a couple of steps up from wrestling now a days , Me i know what i do , I look at Bellend and think effing knob , then i don't watch him fight BJ simple has that ,i did'nt watch it , had no interest it is what it was , a joke of a fight , nothing more nothing less , some people may pay to watch shite , i just won't watch it , and WHEN he does fight Haye he will get stopped but earn a good payday . Will i watch it probably just to see Haye sparkle him ,, will i pay for it NO WAY i'll stream it , eff em i'm not giving these guys my hard earned , i had to work for mine , let them work for theres ,, Would you pay a plumber triple the normal hourly rate , and then watch him sit on his ass for 7 hours and work for one ,, answers no , so why pay a profesional fighter to be part of a circus act . Unfortunatly i think the same about most fights nowadays
:TU: :clap:

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 04:11
by Controversial
What do people think to Bellew's claim that him and Price spanked Haye in the gym?

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 05:10
by Spiker
Controversial wrote:What do people think to Bellew's claim that him and Price spanked Haye in the gym?
Yeah if they were both in their with him at once.
No and No.
Saw haye deal with wilder in sparring so cant imagine Price or Bellend beating him up as he puts it

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 05:34
by ste1983
CharlesListon wrote:I'm with you on it.

It'll be dragged out for months if not longer. Haye will not drop to cruiser (can't really blame him) and Bellew won't give up his belts.

Cue countless "chance encounters" on Sky shows until such point that Bellew is able to move up whilst still retaining his belts for a huge payday on ppv that ultimately means eff all.

It was as staged as anything I've ever seen on a stage.
This

Saturday night was laughable I actually watched the fight in the pub (something I rarely do) ashamed to be a boxing fan when that WWF style shit was going on. The non boxing fans in the pub found it laughable!

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 05:42
by littlepug
ste1983 wrote:
CharlesListon wrote:I'm with you on it.

It'll be dragged out for months if not longer. Haye will not drop to cruiser (can't really blame him) and Bellew won't give up his belts.

Cue countless "chance encounters" on Sky shows until such point that Bellew is able to move up whilst still retaining his belts for a huge payday on ppv that ultimately means eff all.

It was as staged as anything I've ever seen on a stage.
This

Saturday night was laughable I actually watched the fight in the pub (something I rarely do) ashamed to be a boxing fan when that WWF style poo was going on. The non boxing fans in the pub found it laughable!
it really was cringe worthy stuff, highlight of the show for me was adam jones giving that prospect fits but apart from that the Danish show was far better

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 06:04
by PredatorHayds
forcefraser wrote:
Lenny wrote:The Boomer can't walk down the street without needing to be held back from people.
The problem is that people keep stepping to him and we all know that means they will be going down. It`s what he does, it`s who he is. Strikes first and asks questions after. Believe you me, It`s a s simples as that.

I saw a tweet from the Boomer that simply read "We are SCOUSERS an we will continue to fight"

Love the Boomer.
He didn't just step to him he also insulted his nan.
SKY are lucky they didn't have a bloodbath on there hands.

Sly Stallone is rebranding Rambo next and calling it BOMBER.
Set in the 70's a Vietnamese shopowner in Bootle steps to the bomber.
He jumps on a military plane straight to Hanoi and takes them on single handily. He doesn't ask questions.

Bomber 2. After buying the Daily Star from his local Iraqi corner shop he's short changed and stepped to buy the owner. Straight to Baghdad.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 06:42
by Finn
Spiker wrote:
Controversial wrote:What do people think to Bellew's claim that him and Price spanked Haye in the gym?
Yeah if they were both in their with him at once.
No and No.
Saw haye deal with wilder in sparring so cant imagine Price or Bellend beating him up as he puts it
They are talking about in the amateurs when haye weighed about 10 stone 16 or 17 years ago.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 06:56
by littlekinny
Lol. This thread is comical. Such offence. "casual idiots", "embarrassed", "shameful". "1000 other fights I would rather see" All this rage, its as insane as the incident. But minimal 75% of this forum would Watch it. And why wouldn't they?

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 08:43
by Controversial
Finn wrote:
Spiker wrote:
Controversial wrote:What do people think to Bellew's claim that him and Price spanked Haye in the gym?
Yeah if they were both in their with him at once.
No and No.
Saw haye deal with wilder in sparring so cant imagine Price or Bellend beating him up as he puts it
They are talking about in the amateurs when haye weighed about 10 stone 16 or 17 years ago.
He said Haye was training for the British title so Haye was a pro (7-0) as that was 2003.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 08:48
by Syntax Error
Naandrew wrote:It was probably all scripted and pre planned. Vince McMahon would have been proud.

Farce of a fight and casual idiots will fall for it thinking Bellew has a chance.
Definitely scripted, although Bellow might have gone off piste a little when he quite righly pointed out that Haye was conning the public by fighting nightclub bouncers & dust bin men, because that perfectly sums up Haye's pathetic comeback to date.

Saying that, although Bellow is probably better than Arnold & De Mori, he wouldn't hear the bell for round 2 against Haye & it would be yet another joke fight for Haye.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 09:08
by martinmrts
was Bellew confusing Spongebob Squarepants with Sideshow Bob ?

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 09:10
by Stevieb8006
littlekinny wrote:Lol. This thread is comical. Such offence. "casual idiots", "embarrassed", "shameful". "1000 other fights I would rather see" All this rage, its as insane as the incident. But minimal 75% of this forum would Watch it. And why wouldn't they?
:TU:

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 09:42
by milpool
I hope it does happen, it'll be fun.

However, I just can't believe Boomer thinks he stands a chance? I know his fists carry power and all that, but I just can't see past a Haye KO.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 09:56
by Cyclops
milpool wrote:I hope it does happen, it'll be fun.

However, I just can't believe Boomer thinks he stands a chance? I know his fists carry power and all that, but I just can't see past a Haye KO.
I'm going full blown casual for this. I think it's fun. After all the depressing crap we've had recently in boxing I think a load of stupid old bollocks like this is exactly what I need. fornicating Coke problems and deaths and pull outs and depression and the best not fighting the best. Urgh. Boxing has been so miserable.

We'll all watch it. You know we will.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 09:58
by Stuffs
No conspiracy, just Bellew looking to cash out of the game and nothing more.

After him banging on for ages that Cruiser was his best weight, his most perfect weight, he's now ready to abandon it already. There's a plethora of great fights at Cruiser left. Lebedev, Briedis, Usyk to name but three.

In the pre-fight video montages it was repeated ad-nauseum by Bellew that he was "the best cruiserweight in the world"... which in my opinion he isn't. He holds a belt, which is a great start, but I'm not a fan of anyone laying claim to being the best in the world at any weight whilst three others can dispute it. Get two and the argument becomes more cogent.

Anyways, before I get too off-topic. If you're the best, go and fight the best. Beat the best. I'll give him Makabu. That's a good win. But one swallow doesn't make a summer, and doesn't make you the best in the world.

As for any of the above not being a "draw" or "hard to promote"... then perhaps yourself and Eddie need to work a bit harder. Why even have a promoter if they can't promote. Eddie has sold some absolute dogshit before, I'm sure he can do pretty well with a top class cruiser against Bellew.

All things considered, rant over, I'll be pretty fucked off if he goes for Haye. I just want the best to fight the best in their division. Not asking for too much. That Haye fight is still there next summer, or after Bellew conquers Cruiser (if he can).

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:17
by forcefraser
Which top cruisers would Boomer beat though? Uysk? Lebedev? Breidis?, Glowaki?, Gassiev?, Fournier?

Fair play, he destroyed Makabu, but who has Makuba beaten?

He`ll cash out against Haye and retire

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 11:50
by Bricks
forcefraser wrote:I know that modern day boxing is primarily about making as much money as possible for the least amount of effort/risk. It looks that way at least.

After watching Bellew last night I started to feel like a paranoid Yank. I convinced myself that what we were witnessing was a WWE style storyline playing out in front of me, with the sole purpose of two boxers getting in the ring with each other for millions of pounds.

Haye has admitted that he is back for the money fights, Bellew has said that all that matters to him is to get home to his family and secure their future (fair enough)

They have fabricated a "beef" knowing that it will be a pay per view fight and will secure them both millions. These two used to be friends. So what happened? Bellew would have to go through 4 or 5 camps and win 4 or 5 fights (hard ones if he is to remain as a credible champ) for the same money he could make against his ex mate David Haye.

Haye is becoming irrelevant, fighting nodobies and with no proper TV deal (money deal). this fight will make Haye millions.

the whole Floes being a mate of Haye, Haye saying Flores would win easily and then acting surprised when Bellew beat him "Tony is better than I thought and he carries real power". Was this just a not so elaborate plan to allow Bellew to act like a total bellend and start his ringside rant at Haye? It was all pre planned.

Fast Car is in on the whole thing of course. he stands to make millions, another Froch v Groves. Fast car smiling like he was surprised.

Haye and Bellew as a fight in itself should be a non starter. Haye would knock him into next week if he is fit and ready. How can they package this in as anything other than the lowest form of insult to a boxing fan?

I had my doubts over the Haye v Audley fight. I am sure I saw Haye tell Audley "I`m going to do it now" just before he blew him away. Two old mates making a killing on PPV.

I wonder if I am a paranoid old fool who sees conspiracy where there is none? But I think this fight has been planned ever since Haye`s first comeback fight.

The build up will be a total joke, dragging boxing through the shatfield. Bellew has 3 kids and is no doubt a loving father, but his behaviour last night was pathetic and an embarrasment to the sport. A worse role model in boxing you would look hard to find.

It`s a money game and these two fellas (plus shat eating grin Fast car) will do very well out of contriving a rivalry that does not exist.
Of course it is!! This is the only form of promoting an event SKY know........its a gloves off special in the making.

To hell with building up a fighters skillset on display in matches that mean anything. Than doing the same with another and having people eagerly anticipate what will happen........no the manufactured grudge match is a better sell.....everyone knows exactly what happens here. Haye smashes A smaller Bellew in a few rounds. He will probably carry him like he did Audley Harrison for a few rounds so no one can say it was a 1-2 round waste of PPV.

David Haye is becoming a disgrace for these antics...

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 11:56
by Counter-puncher
clopixolacuphase wrote:
milpool wrote:I hope it does happen, it'll be fun.

However, I just can't believe Boomer thinks he stands a chance? I know his fists carry power and all that, but I just can't see past a Haye KO.
I'm going full blown casual for this. I think it's fun. After all the depressing crap we've had recently in boxing I think a load of stupid old bollocks like this is exactly what I need. effing Coke problems and deaths and pull outs and depression and the best not fighting the best. Urgh. Boxing has been so miserable.

We'll all watch it. You know we will.
No, I won't.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 12:48
by forcefraser
I`ve reached the point where I need medical help. I`ve been Boomered.

Today I felt my dog was stepping towards me so i put him to sleep and asked a question afterwards, not before.

Then I charged at my 12 year old daughter, making sure my 3 year old was holding me back and screamed "Let`s av it now you foooooking rat"

As my startled wife entered the scene I called her a "Midget" and told her that It`s who I am, It`s what I do.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 12:55
by Horse
When Bomber sparks Haye clean out, a lot of people are going to be looking mighty silly.

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:10
by Deserter
PredatorHayds wrote:
forcefraser wrote:
Lenny wrote:The Boomer can't walk down the street without needing to be held back from people.
The problem is that people keep stepping to him and we all know that means they will be going down. It`s what he does, it`s who he is. Strikes first and asks questions after. Believe you me, It`s a s simples as that.

I saw a tweet from the Boomer that simply read "We are SCOUSERS an we will continue to fight"

Love the Boomer.
He didn't just step to him he also insulted his nan.
SKY are lucky they didn't have a bloodbath on there hands.

Sly Stallone is rebranding Rambo next and calling it BOMBER.
Set in the 70's a Vietnamese shopowner in Bootle steps to the bomber.
He jumps on a military plane straight to Hanoi and takes them on single handily. He doesn't ask questions.

Bomber 2. After buying the Daily Star from his local Iraqi corner shop he's short changed and stepped to buy the owner. Straight to Baghdad.
:lol: :lol: :bow:

Re: Disgusting Conspiracy scam? Or real beef Bellew v Haye

Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:15
by ThereByTheGrace
littlekinny wrote:Lol. This thread is comical. Such offence. "casual idiots", "embarrassed", "shameful". "1000 other fights I would rather see" All this rage, its as insane as the incident. But minimal 75% of this forum would Watch it. And why wouldn't they?
I'll watch it and critique it, but I wont pay for it. Thank god for technology!