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Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:03
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:OK, why don't you educate me by supporting your claims with evidence?
The last time we jousted you were convinced that the MGM Arena was a stadium. Newflash FUGMO, it ain't. I provided you with loads of evidence on that discussion FUGMO and you ignored it. Admit you were wrong and we can move on with our little discussions.
Weren't you banned from the forum when you were called Rover? Didn't you get a little bit upset when people called you Fugmo? Didn't you have some kind of meltdown when you were called Rover? Didn't you keep reporting people to the mods?
"The last time we jousted", I undermined your argument with consummate ease, compelling you to resort to insults as your sole means to "save face", because it was blatantly obvious that you were unable to support your stance.
This time, I asked you to simply prove your claims... and guess what? You resort to type, by employing the very same tactics.
Everyone is allowed their own opinion and to talk nonsense every now and then, just don't pretend you're telling truth if you ain't. Otherwise, don't get offended so easily when you're challenged to backup your claims.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:12
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:OK, why don't you educate me by supporting your claims with evidence?
The last time we jousted you were convinced that the MGM Arena was a stadium. Newflash FUGMO, it ain't. I provided you with loads of evidence on that discussion FUGMO and you ignored it. Admit you were wrong and we can move on with our little discussions.
Weren't you banned from the forum when you were called Rover? Didn't you get a little bit upset when people called you Fugmo? Didn't you have some kind of meltdown when you were called Rover? Didn't you keep reporting people to the mods?
"The last time we jousted", I undermined your argument with consummate ease, compelling you to resort to insults as your sole means to "save face", because it was blatantly obvious that you were unable to support your stance.
This time, I asked you to simply prove your claims... and guess what? You resort to type, by employing the very same tactics.
Everyone is allowed their own opinion and to talk nonsense every now and then, just don't pretend you're telling truth if you ain't.
Rubbish. The MGM Arena is an Arena, not a stadium. You are wrong. Simple as that. The words stadium and arena are not the same. No one has
ever called the MGM Arena a stadium and they never will, because it's an arena. Some stadiums are referred to as Arenas, but never the other way round. We never got past this point, because you refused to admit the truth. That's why I never bothered to answer your question.
More importantly. Why are you not telling me off for accusing you of being Rover? And why aren't you asking why I am calling you FUGMO?
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:22
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
The last time we jousted you were convinced that the MGM Arena was a stadium. Newflash FUGMO, it ain't. I provided you with loads of evidence on that discussion FUGMO and you ignored it. Admit you were wrong and we can move on with our little discussions.
Weren't you banned from the forum when you were called Rover? Didn't you get a little bit upset when people called you Fugmo? Didn't you have some kind of meltdown when you were called Rover? Didn't you keep reporting people to the mods?
"The last time we jousted", I undermined your argument with consummate ease, compelling you to resort to insults as your sole means to "save face", because it was blatantly obvious that you were unable to support your stance.
This time, I asked you to simply prove your claims... and guess what? You resort to type, by employing the very same tactics.
Everyone is allowed their own opinion and to talk nonsense every now and then, just don't pretend you're telling truth if you ain't.
Rubbish. The MGM Arena is an Arena, not a stadium. You are wrong. Simple as that. The words stadium and arena are not the same. No one has
ever called the MGM Arena a stadium and they never will, because it's an arena. Some stadiums are referred to as Arenas, but never the other way round. We never got past this point, because you refused to admit the truth. That's why I never bothered to answer your question.
More importantly. Why are you not telling me off for accusing you of being Rover? And why aren't you asking why I am calling you FUGMO?
I prefer to stick to the topic of this thread, because doing otherwise, would result in me behaving like a troll.
It seems that you're unable to support your original claims, so you've resorted to becoming an abusive forum troll, by adopting off-topic diversionary tactics to distract people from previous statements that you cannot justify.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:32
by expe
lefty wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Canelo was 172lb for Trout. I've read posters on here before mention he has hit around 180 but not sure how much truth there is to that... seems a bit much to the point it would surely be to his detriment.
172 wouldn't shock me in the slightest. Canelo putting on 20/21 lbs seems feasible.
He was 12st 10 for the Smith, had 10lbs on him by the time they got in the ring.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:33
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:It seems that you're unable to support your original claims, so you've resorted to becoming an abusive forum troll, by adopting off-topic diversionary tactics to distract people from previous statements that you cannot justify.
See, I've presented you with the same fact we discussed before and you still refuse to accept it. The MGM Arena is not a stadium. You are either stupid or stubborn. This guy called Rover had the same traits. Are you Rover?
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:38
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:It seems that you're unable to support your original claims, so you've resorted to becoming an abusive forum troll, by adopting off-topic diversionary tactics to distract people from previous statements that you cannot justify.
See, I've presented you with the same fact we discussed before and you still refuse to accept it. The MGM Arena is not a stadium. You are either stupid or stubborn. This guy called Rover had the same traits. Are you Rover?
What's the topic of this thread?
If you want to discuss something else, submit your comment in another thread relating to the same subject matter.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:40
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:It seems that you're unable to support your original claims, so you've resorted to becoming an abusive forum troll, by adopting off-topic diversionary tactics to distract people from previous statements that you cannot justify.
See, I've presented you with the same fact we discussed before and you still refuse to accept it. The MGM Arena is not a stadium. You are either stupid or stubborn. This guy called Rover had the same traits. Are you Rover?
What's the topic of this thread?
If you want to discuss something else, submit your comment in another thread relating to the same subject matter.
No. I want to discuss it here thank you very much. You should really man up Fugmo.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 17:51
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
See, I've presented you with the same fact we discussed before and you still refuse to accept it. The MGM Arena is not a stadium. You are either stupid or stubborn. This guy called Rover had the same traits. Are you Rover?
What's the topic of this thread?
If you want to discuss something else, submit your comment in another thread relating to the same subject matter.
No. I want to discuss it here thank you very much. You should really man up Fugmo.
You really are powerless to support your stance about Canelo's rehydration weight aren't you? So you want to discuss dictionary definitions instead?

Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 18:01
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
What's the topic of this thread?
If you want to discuss something else, submit your comment in another thread relating to the same subject matter.
No. I want to discuss it here thank you very much. You should really man up Fugmo.
You really are powerless to support your stance about Canelo's rehydration weight aren't you? So you want to discuss dictionary definitions instead?

I already posted about it. The weight was measured, but not made public. As I said before, Khan said it was 180+, Liam SMith said the same and I also have a source close to Golden Boy and she also said it was 180+. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Your opinion.
Now, lets discuss you. Were you Rover? Why did you not like being called Fugmo?
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 18:13
by lefty
expe wrote:lefty wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Canelo was 172lb for Trout. I've read posters on here before mention he has hit around 180 but not sure how much truth there is to that... seems a bit much to the point it would surely be to his detriment.
172 wouldn't shock me in the slightest. Canelo putting on 20/21 lbs seems feasible.
He was 12st 10 for the Smith, had 10lbs on him by the time they got in the ring.
Is there any evidence for that? I'm not saying you're wrong it's just that I didn't know Canelo had gone through with a fight Night weigh in.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 19:03
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
No. I want to discuss it here thank you very much. You should really man up Fugmo.
You really are powerless to support your stance about Canelo's rehydration weight aren't you? So you want to discuss dictionary definitions instead?

I already posted about it. The weight was measured, but not made public. As I said before, Khan said it was 180+, Liam SMith said the same and I also have a source close to Golden Boy and she also said it was 180+. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Your opinion.
So all you've got is idle gossip and rumour?
When you used the word "definitely", about the certainty of your claim regarding Canelo's weight, you really meant "maybe" or "guess" or "remote possibility"?
You should have been honest by saying you were only guessing or merely expressing an opinion, instead of being abusive and falsely claiming you were stating fact, as this would have prevented our pointless discussion.

Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 20:56
by Badhusker
I know weight is an advantage, but if you think it is the main reason Canelo wins, you are delusional. Re-watch Canelo vs Floyd, where there was probably a 15lb weight difference. I'm no big Canelo fan, but you have to give the kid some credit. He struggles with slick boxers with lateral movement, but his resume at his age is pretty impressive.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 00:17
by lefty
Badhusker wrote:I know weight is an advantage, but if you think it is the main reason Canelo wins, you are delusional. Re-watch Canelo vs Floyd, where there was probably a 15lb weight difference. I'm no big Canelo fan, but you have to give the kid some credit. He struggles with slick boxers with lateral movement, but his resume at his age is pretty impressive.
Canelo is a pretty good counter puncher and thinking fighter in his own right. He doesn't have great mobility though admittedly.
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 04:45
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
I already posted about it. The weight was measured, but not made public. As I said before, Khan said it was 180+, Liam SMith said the same and I also have a source close to Golden Boy and she also said it was 180+. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Your opinion.
So all you've got is idle gossip and rumour?
When you used the word "definitely", about the certainty of your claim regarding Canelo's weight, you really meant "maybe" or "guess" or "remote possibility"?
You should have been honest by saying you were only guessing or merely expressing an opinion, instead of being abusive and falsely claiming you were stating fact, as this would have prevented our pointless discussion.

Is the MGM Arena definitely a stadium? Are you definitely FUGMO?
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 04:54
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
I already posted about it. The weight was measured, but not made public. As I said before, Khan said it was 180+, Liam SMith said the same and I also have a source close to Golden Boy and she also said it was 180+. If you don't believe me, that's fine. Your opinion.
So all you've got is idle gossip and rumour?
When you used the word "definitely", about the certainty of your claim regarding Canelo's weight, you really meant "maybe" or "guess" or "remote possibility"?
You should have been honest by saying you were only guessing or merely expressing an opinion, instead of being abusive and falsely claiming you were stating fact, as this would have prevented our pointless discussion.

Prove that the MGM Arena is a stadium.

Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 05:39
by Enlightened-One
It seems that your persistent and random barking of the phrase "MGM Arena" is a severe form of keyboard Tourette's syndrome, caused by your apparent extreme frustration at being unable to defend your stance about Canelo's rehydration weight!
What you've just done is the debating equivalent of Roberto Durán turning his back on his opponent whilst saying "No más".
Re: Amir khan on Canelo's weight fight Night
Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 13:58
by PredatorHayds
Enlightened-One wrote:It seems that your persistent and random barking of the phrase "MGM Arena" is a severe form of keyboard Tourette's syndrome, caused by your apparent extreme frustration at being unable to defend your stance about Canelo's rehydration weight!
What you've just done is the debating equivalent of Roberto Durán turning his back on his opponent whilst saying "No más".
He didn't actually say No mas