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Tarkus wrote:I would give Molina a realistic chance against any of Joshua's previous opponents. Its not as bad a fight as some make it out to be. Especially considering its on a short notice, 3 top guys refused to take the fight, and everybody else is busy.

Concepcion/Yafai is a pretty good title fight.

Whyte/Chisora is very interesting crossroads fight.

What I dont like is having Ortiz on the card only one month after his Malik Scot fight. Thats just silly.

Looking forward to this card. I dont see what is there to complain about. It seems to me lot of fans complain for the sake of complaining.

I like the undercard and would deem it a good bill overall, but the AJ fight is bleh. AJ has already pounded Martin, Brezeale, and Whyte (none of whom I consider among the best 15 HWs), so if chinny Molina is really around that level it's just more of the same when AJ should be stepping up. Late notice, only down 4 times against Wilder and once against Grano, able to last nearly a round with Arreola, came from way behind to stop the corpse of Adamek---whatever the justification for Molina is I don't have any interest in the fight, and if you think it's beyond complaint I find that odd.

Hopefully a good opponent is next, and if AJ is really the ginormous draw some suggest, his team should be able to tempt someone better.

crusader wrote:if AJ is really the ginormous draw some suggest, his team should be able to tempt someone better.

Obviosely the were not. Pulev would have been perfect right now but he refused. It seems that been payed lot more money is not enough for some of them to justify the risk. Especially when they have easier options which still pays well.

I am not saying Molina fight is ideal. But under the circumstances it is acceptable. It was either that or no fight at all. I'd rather see AJ smash a fat Mexican then to have an entire card canceled. Oh ye, there was a Price option but imagine the amount of moaning if that was made. Molina has better chin, better record and has a bit of a momentum coming of a decent win.

Tarkus wrote:I would give Molina a realistic chance against any of Joshua's previous opponents. Its not as bad a fight as some make it out to be. Especially considering its on a short notice, 3 top guys refused to take the fight, and everybody else is busy.

Concepcion/Yafai is a pretty good title fight.

Whyte/Chisora is very interesting crossroads fight.

What I dont like is having Ortiz on the card only one month after his Malik Scot fight. Thats just silly.

Looking forward to this card. I dont see what is there to complain about. It seems to me lot of fans complain for the sake of complaining.

The short notice is bullshit. This isn't wwe where you have ppv events at set times of the year. If you can't get a good enough opponent for a date then get a new date.

We complain as this is terrible value at 16.95, especially for those who fork out £65 a month

Wont be buying it. Complete joke this is PPV.

Short notice excuse is not an excuse!! A fight should be PPV not a date!

Molina gets beat every time he steps up. He's not got a prayer. Fair play to Eddie if he can turn a profit from this debacle of a bill. If this is PPV worthy then I'm Eric Bristow.

freddydoesdallas wrote: The short notice is bullshit. This isn't wwe where you have ppv events at set times of the year. If you can't get a good enough opponent for a date then get a new date.

We complain as this is terrible value at 16.95, especially for those who fork out £65 a month

Its not a bullshit, there are only limited available dates. If they missed Dec 10 it could not be earlier then late January. And by then another date is not that far away anyways. Essentially you are demanding one less fight card. Ridiculous.

PPV is another subject altogether. I have no problem if someone dont want to pay for it. God knows I dont pay.

Mighty Atom wrote:So Joshua-Klitschko when it happens will be for WBA super World heavyweight title.
Browne fights Briggs for the WBA regular heavyweight title.
And Ortiz will defend his WBA interim heavyweight title in Manchester.
Least that's what seems to be happening.
Putrid stinking mess of a situation....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/37788456

This should help clarify everything

On a par with the Klit fight. shite fight, Whyte Chisora could be good though, the lead up certainly will be.

Tarkus wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The short notice is bullshit. This isn't wwe where you have ppv events at set times of the year. If you can't get a good enough opponent for a date then get a new date.

We complain as this is terrible value at 16.95, especially for those who fork out £65 a month

Its not a bullshit, there are only limited available dates. If they missed Dec 10 it could not be earlier then late January. And by then another date is not that far away anyways. Essentially you are demanding one less fight card. Ridiculous.

PPV is another subject altogether. I have no problem if someone dont want to pay for it. God knows I dont pay.

Limited dates? I'm pretty sure there are 52 Saturdays in a year. Also how is saying that he should move the date to another one calling for the removal of a fight card. If it doesn't go ahead on dec 10th it goes on a date in jan. fights should be made to get the best fights possible, not to fit in with a pre-determined date, especially for ppv.

If Joshua was fighting every week we may lose a date but as it is, he fights 3/4 times a year. Plenty of flexibility

freddydoesdallas wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote: The short notice is bullshit. This isn't wwe where you have ppv events at set times of the year. If you can't get a good enough opponent for a date then get a new date.

We complain as this is terrible value at 16.95, especially for those who fork out £65 a month

Its not a bullshit, there are only limited available dates. If they missed Dec 10 it could not be earlier then late January. And by then another date is not that far away anyways. Essentially you are demanding one less fight card. Ridiculous.

PPV is another subject altogether. I have no problem if someone dont want to pay for it. God knows I dont pay.

Limited dates? I'm pretty sure there are 52 Saturdays in a year. Also how is saying that he should move the date to another one calling for the removal of a fight card. If it doesn't go ahead on dec 10th it goes on a date in jan. fights should be made to get the best fights possible, not to fit in with a pre-determined date, especially for ppv.

If Joshua was fighting every week we may lose a date but as it is, he fights 3/4 times a year. Plenty of flexibility

I think at this late stage it would have been extremely unfair to change the date. Don't forget the arena is booked, the fans have probably already organised travel and hotels, and camps would already midway through for this date.

Things could be changed, but it just looks a bit wet when you have to keep changing dates. This fight will be sufficient to keep the casuals warm, who make up the majority of the income for the AJ money train. Then Klitchko in the Spring, which I'm assuming will please the boxing fans. It is win-win. I'm assuming that if this fight does not interest you, you'll not watch it.

freddydoesdallas wrote: Limited dates? I'm pretty sure there are 52 Saturdays in a year. Also how is saying that he should move the date to another one calling for the removal of a fight card. If it doesn't go ahead on dec 10th it goes on a date in jan. fights should be made to get the best fights possible, not to fit in with a pre-determined date, especially for ppv.

If Joshua was fighting every week we may lose a date but as it is, he fights 3/4 times a year. Plenty of flexibility

What are you talking about mate. Dates should be arraigned with the broadcaster and venue way ahead. It should avoid other sport events, concerts etc. It should make other boxers agree and then train for it in extended camps. If you think Eddie could just take and switched it from Dec 10 to Dec 17 on a whim 5 weeks before the fight then you really arn't living on this planet mate. Perhaps somewhere much more pleasant. :)

This is a keep busy fight for Joshua. Almost all heavyweight champions in history have had them. Can't understand why it's a big deal for some people.

On sky it would be a fantastic card.

AJ keeping busy against a game but limited opponent coming off a good win and a performance to use as a yardstick against Wilder.

Yafai a talented flyweight against a good champion for his 1st world title.

2 50/50 British title fights, top 10 ranked heavyweight and one of the best amateur ever (women) fighting.

But it's not a PPV fight. It shouldn't be about the date it should be about the quality of the headline and Joshua-Molina shouldn't be on British PPV.

Can accept the poor level of opponent for AJ due to the circumstances. Cannot accept it's ppv. fornicate stacking the card, this should be regular sky. Hope Buglioni & Conception pull out with injury.

keithmoonhangover wrote:This is a keep busy fight for Joshua. Almost all heavyweight champions in history have had them. Can't understand why it's a big deal for some people.

It's that people will have to pay for it.

Nightmare Roy wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:This is a keep busy fight for Joshua. Almost all heavyweight champions in history have had them. Can't understand why it's a big deal for some people.

It's that people will have to pay for it.

They don't have to pay for it. If they don't like the product, don't buy it.

when do tickets go on sale?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:This is a keep busy fight for Joshua. Almost all heavyweight champions in history have had them. Can't understand why it's a big deal for some people.

It's that people will have to pay for it.

They don't have to pay for it. If they don't like the product, don't buy it.

The point is the card is not PPV worthy, which I think most would acknowledge that it is not.

That doesn't mean that it won't sell, it probably will to a reasonable level. The problem is the long term effect PPVs like this have.

Haye v Harrison was so bad it pretty much busted PPVs on Sky for several years. Molina will look like shite and get blown away in a round or two. Too much of this and punters stop buying.

Will this PPV be broadcast in UHD (4k) ?

Not worth any additional PPV monies for me, but a reasonable night's boxing.

AJ will have Molina over and done inside 3... Whyte v Chisora I've precious little interest in. I predict it to be a mild step up from Whyte v Lewinson in terms of excitement... Burton v Buglioni is an even and solid match-up. Like that a lot... Yafai v Concepcion is a good match-up too. Then the kicker is seeing Ortiz live in the flesh (if I was going, and might) and the return of Quigg (who I make no bones about being a fan of).

Solid 7/10 card I would say. Which makes it good, but not PPV.

The main event is a mismatch, some decent fights on the undercard but I'd rather they'd stretch this out over a couple of Sky Sports shows than try and charge PPV. Eric Molina going into the Wilder fight was being spoken about as one of the worst title challengers ever in the heavyweight division, the fact that he went 9 rounds with Wilder says more about Wilder than it does Molina.

On the Sky Sports app they keep waffling on about how Molina almost knocked out Wilder in the third round (really?), Johnny Nelson singing for his supper and a feature on how Americans have come to the UK before and sprung upsets, all pretty desperate stuff.

I'll wait and see the knockout on the news the next day and the rest of the card the following week.

Taansend wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

nitro5912 wrote:Aj v Molina - OK fight. Not great but a small step up from whyte,martin and breazeale.

Chisora v whyte - potential fireworks fight, potential stinker. Chisora should win if motivated.

I can imagine Ortiz will be v some tin can same goes for quigg.

The other fights, OK fights not amazing but better than the headline.

PPV not a chance

Are you serious? Molina - Joshua is an 'ok' fight? Do you work for sky?

Molina's fight against Wilder was exciting...

Interesting fight.

Flump wrote:The main event is a mismatch, some decent fights on the undercard but I'd rather they'd stretch this out over a couple of Sky Sports shows than try and charge PPV. Eric Molina going into the Wilder fight was being spoken about as one of the worst title challengers ever in the heavyweight division, the fact that he went 9 rounds with Wilder says more about Wilder than it does Molina.

On the Sky Sports app they keep waffling on about how Molina almost knocked out Wilder in the third round (really?), Johnny Nelson singing for his supper and a feature on how Americans have come to the UK before and sprung upsets, all pretty desperate stuff.

I'll wait and see the knockout on the news the next day and the rest of the card the following week.

He definitely had Wilder in trouble and really should have done a lot better in that round. But again, that says more about Wilder than it does against Molina.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Flump wrote:The main event is a mismatch, some decent fights on the undercard but I'd rather they'd stretch this out over a couple of Sky Sports shows than try and charge PPV. Eric Molina going into the Wilder fight was being spoken about as one of the worst title challengers ever in the heavyweight division, the fact that he went 9 rounds with Wilder says more about Wilder than it does Molina.

On the Sky Sports app they keep waffling on about how Molina almost knocked out Wilder in the third round (really?), Johnny Nelson singing for his supper and a feature on how Americans have come to the UK before and sprung upsets, all pretty desperate stuff.

I'll wait and see the knockout on the news the next day and the rest of the card the following week.

He definitely had Wilder in trouble and really should have done a lot better in that round. But again, that says more about Wilder than it does against Molina.

True Mate.