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adamwillan wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:
A few quid? Hearn sells half the seats on Stubhub at a 100 quid premium, that's 1 million a promotion.

Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

Was supposed to say 'if'. just illustrating that it's not small money. It's not hard to imagine that Eddie is selling half the tickets at inflated prices though, considering every event sells out in 1 min. Are we supposed to believe that boxing is now more popular than ever before. Before the match room takeover I was never not able to get a ticket for a fight I wanted, now it's like trying to win a golden ticket at face value prices

No way in the world Eddie Hearn is ticket touting. He's Britian's biggest boxing promoter. And you really think he's got time to organize selling tickets for more than face value.

Let me just lay this to rest by saying this..... if he wanted to make more money on the tickets, he would just set a higher ticket price. Simple.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

Was supposed to say 'if'. just illustrating that it's not small money. It's not hard to imagine that Eddie is selling half the tickets at inflated prices though, considering every event sells out in 1 min. Are we supposed to believe that boxing is now more popular than ever before. Before the match room takeover I was never not able to get a ticket for a fight I wanted, now it's like trying to win a golden ticket at face value prices

No way in the world Eddie Hearn is ticket touting. He's Britian's biggest boxing promoter. And you really think he's got time to organize selling tickets for more than face value.

Let me just lay this to rest by saying this..... if he wanted to make more money on the tickets, he would just set a higher ticket price. Simple.

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Yeah I could be over egging it who knows. Definitely a relationship though as they announced it last year. Stub hub don't buy tickets themselves so if it's a partnership surely it's Eddie selling them

http://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/mat ... tnerships/

Anyway who cares, as others have said you either pay it or not. I paid over the odds to see GGG, don't want to pay over a 100 for this, will watch at home.

Whyte Chisora is definetly an exiting fight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

Was supposed to say 'if'. just illustrating that it's not small money. It's not hard to imagine that Eddie is selling half the tickets at inflated prices though, considering every event sells out in 1 min. Are we supposed to believe that boxing is now more popular than ever before. Before the match room takeover I was never not able to get a ticket for a fight I wanted, now it's like trying to win a golden ticket at face value prices

No way in the world Eddie Hearn is ticket touting. He's Britian's biggest boxing promoter. And you really think he's got time to organize selling tickets for more than face value.

Let me just lay this to rest by saying this..... if he wanted to make more money on the tickets, he would just set a higher ticket price. Simple.

Eddie does'nt sell any tickets ,, don't know if you noticed but he's the boss , with daddys say so ..So if he wanted to sell half the tickets to scalpers , his mate at the pub , or anyone else , the last thing you will see is Eddie walking round with a bagful , on a sunday market ,, what he will do is what he does for most everything ,, DELEGATE .. you know give the job to an employee and then supervise and rake the cash in . I don't know if he does or not but if he wanted to its easy enough . to do
Put the prices up to, I doubt it , he's already at maximum price for the shite he dishes up

Its a good card for attending. It might not fit to someones expectation for PPV but for attending it is better then decent. Anyone claiming otherwise is only pushing anti Matchroom propaganda.

BTW it seems already 80-90 % sold (to fans). So haters who expect "half empty" arena will be bitterly disappointing. On the other hand, relatively slow ticket sale might indicate low PPV buys. At least something you sad people can cheer about.

lefty wrote:Alot of women go to ogle his body and imagine getting pounded by the BBC and the fellas are probably just tagging along with their missus.

I know one woman who is doing exactly this!

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Oh come on man. Hearn is a boxing promoter, not a ticket tout. He's dealing with millions of pounds for this promotion and you think he is interested in a few quid from touting, which, if anyone found out would shatter his reputation. Give your head a shake.

A few quid? Hearn sells half the seats on Stubhub at a 100 quid premium, that's 1 million a promotion.

Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

This is something Hearn copied from America. Mayweather Hatton was the first big promotion I was aware of that did this. The fighters actually bought blocks of tickets and resold them to secondary ticket sellers.

It adds to the 'promotion' of the event and makes people a lot more money. People these days want to be 'seen' at events and will pay a premium

Here's a link on the mayweather Hatton ticket scheme

http://www.secondsout.com/uk-boxing-new ... and-boxing

Stubhub, via gogo etc make it much easier to take advantage of this

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:
A few quid? Hearn sells half the seats on Stubhub at a 100 quid premium, that's 1 million a promotion.

Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

This is something Hearn copied from America. Mayweather Hatton was the first big promotion I was aware of that did this. The fighters actually bought blocks of tickets and resold them to secondary ticket sellers.

It adds to the 'promotion' of the event and makes people a lot more money. People these days want to be 'seen' at events and will pay a premium

I don't understand what you're saying. Boxers always sell tickets for shows.

coneye wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:
Was supposed to say 'if'. just illustrating that it's not small money. It's not hard to imagine that Eddie is selling half the tickets at inflated prices though, considering every event sells out in 1 min. Are we supposed to believe that boxing is now more popular than ever before. Before the match room takeover I was never not able to get a ticket for a fight I wanted, now it's like trying to win a golden ticket at face value prices

No way in the world Eddie Hearn is ticket touting. He's Britian's biggest boxing promoter. And you really think he's got time to organize selling tickets for more than face value.

Let me just lay this to rest by saying this..... if he wanted to make more money on the tickets, he would just set a higher ticket price. Simple.

Eddie does'nt sell any tickets ,, don't know if you noticed but he's the boss , with daddys say so ..So if he wanted to sell half the tickets to scalpers , his mate at the pub , or anyone else , the last thing you will see is Eddie walking round with a bagful , on a sunday market ,, what he will do is what he does for most everything ,, DELEGATE .. you know give the job to an employee and then supervise and rake the cash in . I don't know if he does or not but if he wanted to its easy enough . to do
Put the prices up to, I doubt it , he's already at maximum price for the shite he dishes up

The prices for this show are lower than Joshua's last fight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

This is something Hearn copied from America. Mayweather Hatton was the first big promotion I was aware of that did this. The fighters actually bought blocks of tickets and resold them to secondary ticket sellers.

It adds to the 'promotion' of the event and makes people a lot more money. People these days want to be 'seen' at events and will pay a premium

I don't understand what you're saying. Boxers always sell tickets for shows.

I posted a link above to it. Yes boxers have always sold tickets but what happened in Hatton mayweather is that they sold tickets to secondary operators/companies who then put them on the market to the public. It meant that only a tiny percentage ever went on sale at face value.

Thus is what is happening with matchroom/stubhub. It's not a few guys sitting around at midday trying to get tickets to sell on for a profit. It's a boardroom decision made by 2 companies to exploit the market

keithmoonhangover wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

aidenp25 wrote:People are shitting on this card but it isn't thattt bad, if you don't like it, don't buy it...SIMPLE!!

It's awful for a PPV, no doubt about it.

Do you not love the undercard mate? Some very good match ups IMO.

That doesn't justify a PPV in my eyes. I won't be shelling out for it.

The main event should decide whether it's a PPV or not, and Molina is not a good enough opponent for a PPV.

Tarkus wrote:Its a good card for attending. It might not fit to someones expectation for PPV but for attending it is better then decent. Anyone claiming otherwise is only pushing anti Matchroom propaganda.

BTW it seems already 80-90 % sold (to fans). So haters who expect "half empty" arena will be bitterly disappointing. On the other hand, relatively slow ticket sale might indicate low PPV buys. At least something you sad people can cheer about.

How do you know who it's sold to?

The tickets will have gone to other platforms to sell, without doubt.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

adamwillan wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Really? Ha'way man, give your head a shake.

Was supposed to say 'if'. just illustrating that it's not small money. It's not hard to imagine that Eddie is selling half the tickets at inflated prices though, considering every event sells out in 1 min. Are we supposed to believe that boxing is now more popular than ever before. Before the match room takeover I was never not able to get a ticket for a fight I wanted, now it's like trying to win a golden ticket at face value prices

No way in the world Eddie Hearn is ticket touting. He's Britian's biggest boxing promoter. And you really think he's got time to organize selling tickets for more than face value.

Let me just lay this to rest by saying this..... if he wanted to make more money on the tickets, he would just set a higher ticket price. Simple.

He won't be touting, he will do a deal with stub hub. It's commonplace these days.

I'll not be shelling out a penny for this PPV personally.

There are more than 1400 tickets available on Stubhub, the lower priced tickets are coming down slightly to around £97 still £30 more than face value but are the sellers getting a little worried and starting to reduce the price by a pound or 2 to try and shift their tickets that they might be stuck with?

On Eventim the cheap ones seem to have all gone now with just the odd 1 seat around the arena at £87. There does seem to be plenty of the higher tickets available on Eventim so im starting to think that this event will not sell out. Maybe the public have come to their senses and wont pay to see AJ knock out someone in under 3 minutes.

I think the card being 2 weeks before xmas will put a lot of people off, I can see it selling out, but don't think people will buy them from touts for silly money!!

Touts are everywhere... This fight wasn't even the best touting opportunity this weekend. If Eddie wanted to stop it he could, at the very least, make it very difficult for them. The fact he is actually sponsored by them speaks volumes.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:
This is something Hearn copied from America. Mayweather Hatton was the first big promotion I was aware of that did this. The fighters actually bought blocks of tickets and resold them to secondary ticket sellers.

It adds to the 'promotion' of the event and makes people a lot more money. People these days want to be 'seen' at events and will pay a premium

I don't understand what you're saying. Boxers always sell tickets for shows.

I posted a link above to it. Yes boxers have always sold tickets but what happened in Hatton mayweather is that they sold tickets to secondary operators/companies who then put them on the market to the public. It meant that only a tiny percentage ever went on sale at face value.

Thus is what is happening with matchroom/stubhub. It's not a few guys sitting around at midday trying to get tickets to sell on for a profit. It's a boardroom decision made by 2 companies to exploit the market

Stubhub don't sell tickets. Full stop. People buy the tickets, put them on there and get what they can for them. It's large scale touting, but Hearn isn't involved in the actually selling of tickets. The shows are sponsored by StubHub, big deals. They've also been sponsored by We Buy Any House, so Hearn must be buying houses and selling them higher.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
I don't understand what you're saying. Boxers always sell tickets for shows.

I posted a link above to it. Yes boxers have always sold tickets but what happened in Hatton mayweather is that they sold tickets to secondary operators/companies who then put them on the market to the public. It meant that only a tiny percentage ever went on sale at face value.

Thus is what is happening with matchroom/stubhub. It's not a few guys sitting around at midday trying to get tickets to sell on for a profit. It's a boardroom decision made by 2 companies to exploit the market

Stubhub don't sell tickets. Full stop. People buy the tickets, put them on there and get what they can for them. It's large scale touting, but Hearn isn't involved in the actually selling of tickets. The shows are sponsored by StubHub, big deals. They've also been sponsored by We Buy Any House, so Hearn must be buying houses and selling them higher.

That is incredibly sheltered thinking. Are you under the impression that every single person who buys a ticket to these events is then flooding stubhub with the thousands of tickets they have available.

Pretty sure that select committees are being formed to look at the practice of these sites and their relationships with promoters, football clubs, venues etc

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:
I posted a link above to it. Yes boxers have always sold tickets but what happened in Hatton mayweather is that they sold tickets to secondary operators/companies who then put them on the market to the public. It meant that only a tiny percentage ever went on sale at face value.

Thus is what is happening with matchroom/stubhub. It's not a few guys sitting around at midday trying to get tickets to sell on for a profit. It's a boardroom decision made by 2 companies to exploit the market

Stubhub don't sell tickets. Full stop. People buy the tickets, put them on there and get what they can for them. It's large scale touting, but Hearn isn't involved in the actually selling of tickets. The shows are sponsored by StubHub, big deals. They've also been sponsored by We Buy Any House, so Hearn must be buying houses and selling them higher.

That is incredibly sheltered thinking. Are you under the impression that every single person who buys a ticket to these events is then flooding stubhub with the thousands of tickets they have available.

Pretty sure that select committees are being formed to look at the practice of these sites and their relationships with promoters, football clubs, venues etc

Stubhub don't sell the tickets. They get a chunk of change for ever transaction. You really think they are going to risk investigation by the FBI for scalping/touting tickets themselves. That would be the equivilant of a casino sitting at the poker table. Listen to yourself man, you sound like the loons that thought Haye injured himself to avoid Fury.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Stubhub don't sell tickets. Full stop. People buy the tickets, put them on there and get what they can for them. It's large scale touting, but Hearn isn't involved in the actually selling of tickets. The shows are sponsored by StubHub, big deals. They've also been sponsored by We Buy Any House, so Hearn must be buying houses and selling them higher.

That is incredibly sheltered thinking. Are you under the impression that every single person who buys a ticket to these events is then flooding stubhub with the thousands of tickets they have available.

Pretty sure that select committees are being formed to look at the practice of these sites and their relationships with promoters, football clubs, venues etc

Stubhub don't sell the tickets. They get a chunk of change for ever transaction. You really think they are going to risk investigation by the FBI for scalping/touting tickets themselves. That would be the equivilant of a casino sitting at the poker table. Listen to yourself man, you sound like the loons that thought Haye injured himself to avoid Fury.

Exactly, they are a vehicle being used by matchroom to shift tickets. They are official partners of matchroom, official sponsors too.

This is an accepted practice in America as the article I posted shows. You want a ticket for the NFL in new York, the teams will point you in the direction of the secondary market. Don't believe me, email the giants or jets or any other team and tell them that you're heading over from the UK to watch your favourite team

DannyMCR wrote:Myself and three mates are going, not too fussed about the main fight, I'm there for a night out because I love the atmosphere and the booze up!

I've always stood up for The Good Night Out brigade, as I think a night at the fights with your mates and some beers is better than a night in the pub, and think Boxrec-ers can be too miserable and down on people who pay for live gates. However, I'm fed up with live boxing for the moment. The shows I want to go to are either like getting Glastonbury tickers (waiting hours on the phone refreshing the website only for it to be sold out) or 'rescheduled due to injury'. The promoters and the boxers are too greedy. We've been fleeced enough and I can't be arsed with it. I have literally ZERO interest in the main event for this, it's a pisstake, and a decent undercard will not make me pay for it. I hope it dies on its arse.

StubHub sell all Joshua's own tickets at face value and are now in charge of selling all Fight Pass tickets.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

lefty wrote:Alot of women go to ogle his body and imagine getting pounded by the BBC and the fellas are probably just tagging along with their missus.

I know one woman who is doing exactly this!

I knew it. I need to set up some kind of deal with AJ where we tour thr country together and he goes around asking women to feel his muscles for a small fee. Sort of a reverse Purple Aki set up.

lefty wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

lefty wrote:Alot of women go to ogle his body and imagine getting pounded by the BBC and the fellas are probably just tagging along with their missus.

I know one woman who is doing exactly this!

I knew it. I need to set up some kind of deal with AJ where we tour thr country together and he goes around asking women to feel his muscles for a small fee. Sort of a reverse Purple Aki set up.

Slightly worrying lefty you seem to have some kind of mandingo fantasy about Joshua