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Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 23:55
by Evander
At the end of the day Freedom you should know better than anyone it doesn't matter what judges think, I know full well how long you've been a fan.
It matters what WE think, who gives a care what 3 judges think.
It was a great fight.
In my book Sergey Kovalev is the No1 P4P boxer in the world today, that said I see Andre Ward as the No 2 P4P boxer in the world.
It's a win win for the sport let em do it again.
You know judges as good as I do who cares about them, we run the show here Freedom not ESPN HBO SKY NYT or USA TODAY ... we do they follow our lead.
Show me a single boxing journalist who can stand up to me,they can't I'll school any of them.
I once read a high profile boxing journalist resume, guess how long he's been watching the sport ... 10 years
There not even in our ballpark Freedom, that's the beginners course man.

Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 01:54
by Freedom2013
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 20:10
by Freedom2013
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 02:52
by G.McClellan
Is this the biggest robbery of 2016? Have the judges saved the worst, til last?
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 03:31
by Tanzio
G.McClellan wrote:Is this the biggest robbery of 2016? Have the judges saved the worst, til last?
If true, there have been no robberies in 2016. Boxing is clean, baby!
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 17:55
by Freedom2013
Al Bernstein's take on Kovalev-Ward
1. Andre Ward showed he is a terrific fighter by coming back to be competitive after a very rocky first 4 rounds.
2. I picked Ward to win this fight and I was wrong. He lost, even tho the judges say otherwise.
3. two of the judges had the first 4 rounds for Kovalev then scored only one more round for Sergey. Absurd to say he only won 1 of last 8 rounds.
4. The knockdown should have been the difference in this fight. IMO The BEST u can do for Andre is make it 6-6 in rounds That would be 114-113 for Kovalev. I could see giving Andre one of 1st 4 rds, but even then he would have to win 6 of last 8 to win decision.I just don't see that. Kellerman said this was not a bad decision just a controversial one. I disagree. Because of how hard it is to get to a Ward win with that knockdown and quick start for Kovalev, I would call this is a bad decision.
5. The fight itself was well fought and very interesting. Not a fight of yr. candidate but a very, very good fight."
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:22
by Freedom2013
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 19:21
by boxing_rocks
G.McClellan wrote:Is this the biggest robbery of 2016? Have the judges saved the worst, til last?
If you take into account the level of this fight, it is clearly the biggest robbery of the year. The previous fight on the same card was a bigger robbery if you don't consider a level. Both "winners" are Roc Nation clients.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 09:12
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:G.McClellan wrote:Is this the biggest robbery of 2016? Have the judges saved the worst, til last?
If you take into account the level of this fight, it is clearly the biggest robbery of the year. The previous fight on the same card was a bigger robbery if you don't consider a level. Both "winners" are Roc Nation clients.

We need to get Colombo and Telly Savalas on this case immediately. Is Inspector Clouseau available.
Wait a minute?
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that wouldn't be fair since they are American, and a British dude playing a French dude. There needs to be at least one PutinHead on the investigation team.
Brain sturgeons? Raise your hand if you would like to be on the investigation team. Mind you that you will have to wear more than your Fruit Of The Looms and your Russian flag robe.
No takers?
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:44
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:G.McClellan wrote:Is this the biggest robbery of 2016? Have the judges saved the worst, til last?
If you take into account the level of this fight, it is clearly the biggest robbery of the year. The previous fight on the same card was a bigger robbery if you don't consider a level. Both "winners" are Roc Nation clients.

We need to get Colombo and Telly Savalas on this case immediately. Is Inspector Clouseau available.
Wait a minute?
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
that wouldn't be fair since they are American, and a British dude playing a French dude. There needs to be at least one PutinHead on the investigation team.
Brain sturgeons? Raise your hand if you would like to be on the investigation team. Mind you that you will have to wear more than your Fruit Of The Looms and your Russian flag robe.
No takers?
How did they celebrate Thanksgiving in your mental institution, Tanzidiot ?
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:46
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:
If you take into account the level of this fight, it is clearly the biggest robbery of the year. The previous fight on the same card was a bigger robbery if you don't consider a level. Both "winners" are Roc Nation clients.

We need to get Colombo and Telly Savalas on this case immediately. Is Inspector Clouseau available.
Wait a minute?
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
that wouldn't be fair since they are American, and a British dude playing a French dude. There needs to be at least one PutinHead on the investigation team.
Brain sturgeons? Raise your hand if you would like to be on the investigation team. Mind you that you will have to wear more than your Fruit Of The Looms and your Russian flag robe.
No takers?
How did they celebrate Thanksgiving in your mental institution, Tanzidiot ?
I take that as a no to going out with more than your white jockeys and Russian flag robe on.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:47
by jamesmcdonnell
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:lazboy wrote:Roy jones was at ring side. He's a living legend and a trainer.
But lets wait for the excuses regarding his opinion....., I'll come up with a few. Roy is punch drunk. Roy holds hands with the Russians. That wasn't Roy. Roy's sleeping with Kathy Duva (milf).

If he wasn't a judge his opinion is worth just as much as anyone else's.
Precisely. It's proof of absolutely nothing.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:49
by jamesmcdonnell
Evander wrote:At the end of the day Freedom you should know better than anyone it doesn't matter what judges think, I know full well how long you've been a fan.
It matters what WE think, who gives a care what 3 judges think.
It was a great fight.
In my book Sergey Kovalev is the No1 P4P boxer in the world today, that said I see Andre Ward as the No 2 P4P boxer in the world.
It's a win win for the sport let em do it again.
You know judges as good as I do who cares about them, we run the show here Freedom not ESPN HBO SKY NYT or USA TODAY ... we do they follow our lead.
Show me a single boxing journalist who can stand up to me,they can't I'll school any of them.
I once read a high profile boxing journalist resume, guess how long he's been watching the sport ... 10 years
There not even in our ballpark Freedom, that's the beginners course man.

Get over yourself, you're a nobody. Your opinion isn't worth a shite.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:54
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:

We need to get Colombo and Telly Savalas on this case immediately. Is Inspector Clouseau available.
Wait a minute?
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
that wouldn't be fair since they are American, and a British dude playing a French dude. There needs to be at least one PutinHead on the investigation team.
Brain sturgeons? Raise your hand if you would like to be on the investigation team. Mind you that you will have to wear more than your Fruit Of The Looms and your Russian flag robe.
No takers?
How did they celebrate Thanksgiving in your mental institution, Tanzidiot ?
I take that as a no to going out with more than your white jockeys and Russian flag robe on.
Here you go. Being associated with Russians is bad. No wonder judges supported a fellow American.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 12:57
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:
How did they celebrate Thanksgiving in your mental institution, Tanzidiot ?
I take that as a no to going out with more than your white jockeys and Russian flag robe on.
Here you go. Being associated with Russians is bad. No wonder judges supported a fellow American.
Yeah, the four Russians still sleeping off the party in my house last night are very, extremely bad, especially my wife, box of jocks.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 16:41
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:
I take that as a no to going out with more than your white jockeys and Russian flag robe on.
Here you go. Being associated with Russians is bad. No wonder judges supported a fellow American.
Yeah, the four Russians still sleeping off the party in my house last night are very, extremely bad, especially my wife, box of jocks.
So, no American would marry you and you had to order a Russian bride? That explains a lot, Tanzidiot.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 16:48
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:
Here you go. Being associated with Russians is bad. No wonder judges supported a fellow American.
Yeah, the four Russians still sleeping off the party in my house last night are very, extremely bad, especially my wife, box of jocks.
So, no American would marry you and you had to order a Russian bride? That explains a lot, Tanzidiot.

you and Saad sleeping on the same sofa bed comparing notes. The two of you need to team up the four brain cells bouncing off the inside of your skulls. Four have a better chance of running into each other than two, increasing slightly the odds of two of them sparking an original thought between you in your lifetimes. While the odds would still be abysmal, they would be maximized.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 19:20
by Freedom2013
WBC Prez Not Happy With Selection of Officials for Ward-Kovalev
http://www.BS.com/wbc-prez-not ... ev--111105
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 19:52
by Tanzio
This is getting to the point of resembling the hapless protesters on the streets AFTER the election.
The WBC President is complaining a week AFTER the event about the judges picked for the event; priceless.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 21:22
by Dancin' Dan
Tanzio - I like to be respectful but are you Andre Wards uncle or something? I can see why you are a bantamweight poster. Pointless after the hundredth post. I had Kovalev win a close one, most folks IN the business had Kovalev win. Just because I fought and continue to be involved with the sport I don't presume my point is better than others. I state it and move on. You go to the point of trolling. You think Ward won? I don't. Say why and move on.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 21:29
by BitPlayer
Isn't this the sort of thing they should sort out before the fight is agreed to?
Either way they should just have a rematch, with more neutral judges and maybe in a different location, and I say that as someone that think Ward won.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 11:24
by Tanzio
Dancin' Dan wrote:Tanzio - I like to be respectful but are you Andre Wards uncle or something? I can see why you are a bantamweight poster. Pointless after the hundredth post. I had Kovalev win a close one, most folks IN the business had Kovalev win. Just because I fought and continue to be involved with the sport I don't presume my point is better than others. I state it and move on. You go to the point of trolling. You think Ward won? I don't. Say why and move on.
Interesting how my 1st response to your post was disappeared, Dancin' Dan.
Yeah, I am the uncle of Ward who derided him for his attitude and activity for years until he had the nutsac to get in the ring and win the light heavy championship due to Krusher cheating too well and robbing himself

That's me.
I don't have a problem with your or anyone else's opinion on this fight with the exception of those who are spamming trash and deriding Ward's talents, simultaneously diminishing Krusher. Neither of them had anything to do with the decision. They are both great fighters. The fight could have gone either way. I believe that the judges got it right.
If you had anything to do with having my previous post in response to you removed, GFY

If not, have a nice day.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 17:54
by Freedom2013
Tanzio wrote:
This is getting to the point of resembling the hapless protesters on the streets AFTER the election.
The WBC President is complaining a week AFTER the event about the judges picked for the event; priceless.
It wasn't for a WBC title.
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 18:03
by SaadOffTheDeck
Dear god, tanzio has to be the whiniest bitch on the planet. Wtf is wrong with her?
Re: Roy Jones: "I love Ward, but Kovalev won"
Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 19:15
by scallum2015
After watching it live i thought Kovalev had won but after watching it again and again i could see how The Judges had Ward as the winner. This was no frigging Robbery it was a close fight either way. The rematch will be highly anticipated. Does anyone know The Ppv #s ?