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GPTM1403 wrote:

Muttley wrote:

geronimo wrote:How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

No way Haye ducks this fight he is too much of a sure thing. Haye only takes fights he is guaranteed to win.

to be fair to Haye, I think he is fighting who he can get to face him and for the money he can pay them, everyone knows he can hit, everyone knows the titles are all over the place, the "top" (ha) heavyweights are hovering around title shots, they're not going to risk those against Haye (just like he's less likely to risk it against them), the next level want silly money to get knocked out by him, leaving the guys he is fighting. Hopefully one thing this means is he has the sense to keep fighting rather than sit on his arse waiting for a title shot, cos the likes of Joshua are definitely going to let him sit inactive until he either retires or is an easier prospect.

He already had a guaranteed title shot waiting for him at the end of March/early April, but he turned it down because it's too risky.

Killer Blow wrote:
He already had a guaranteed title shot waiting for him at the end of March/early April, but he turned it down because it's too risky.

I thought there weren't any guaranteed title shots at the moment due to Wilder and Klitschko's injuries and the queue's backing up from that?

GPTM1403 wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:
He already had a guaranteed title shot waiting for him at the end of March/early April, but he turned it down because it's too risky.

I thought there weren't any guaranteed title shots at the moment due to Wilder and Klitschko's injuries and the queue's backing up from that?

Parker/Ruiz winner was ordered to face him within 120 days.

It's as simple as that!

I have to agree with the majority that Bellew has no chance, however, Bellew has fought world class opposition of late but Haye has not fought anyone remotely decent since 2011. Thats the only hope I think Bellew has that who knows what Haye has left, realistically.

Muttley wrote:

Rexob wrote:Good fight for bellew here Hayes old and his legs have gone Hayes got a punchers chance.

Sorry but Bellew is well out of his depth. i understand sky's reasoning for making this fight(event) and there will be a few gullible punters buying it but it is a total mismatch. this will be like the Audley Harrison fight all over again. The build up will be pantomime at its best but in reality as soon as Haye wants to finish it he will.

Sadly it won't be a 'few' punters it will be a lot, I'm sure of it. I do agree with you though that this is Haye's win whenever he wants it, 2 maybe 3 rounds is my guess

Muttley wrote:

Rexob wrote:Good fight for bellew here Hayes old and his legs have gone Hayes got a punchers chance.

Sorry but Bellew is well out of his depth. i understand sky's reasoning for making this fight(event) and there will be a few gullible punters buying it but it is a total mismatch. this will be like the Audley Harrison fight all over again. The build up will be pantomime at its best but in reality as soon as Haye wants to finish it he will.

Not a chance it will be like haye vs harrison,bellew will throw punches. Ill pay to see bellew looking up at lights but like i say bellew believes he can win so it will be competative for at least the first round till haye lands his trademark one two

GPTM1403 wrote:

Muttley wrote:

geronimo wrote:How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

No way Haye ducks this fight he is too much of a sure thing. Haye only takes fights he is guaranteed to win.

to be fair to Haye, I think he is fighting who he can get to face him and for the money he can pay them, everyone knows he can hit, everyone knows the titles are all over the place, the "top" (ha) heavyweights are hovering around title shots, they're not going to risk those against Haye (just like he's less likely to risk it against them), the next level want silly money to get knocked out by him, leaving the guys he is fighting. Hopefully one thing this means is he has the sense to keep fighting rather than sit on his arse waiting for a title shot, cos the likes of Joshua are definitely going to let him sit inactive until he either retires or is an easier prospect.

Bellew has got more bottle than joshua,joshua doesnt want ant part of haye cause he knows if haye lands on his chin joshua is going to sleep so in my eyes hats off to bellew for takin the most dangerous fight of his career and the most dangerous fighter in the heavyweight division today

Killer Blow wrote:

GPTM1403 wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:
He already had a guaranteed title shot waiting for him at the end of March/early April, but he turned it down because it's too risky.

I thought there weren't any guaranteed title shots at the moment due to Wilder and Klitschko's injuries and the queue's backing up from that?

Parker/Ruiz winner was ordered to face him within 120 days.

for some reason my previous answer didn't appear, that isn't for a real title, the WBO at heavyweight is still the bastard son no one wants to take seriously, its an add on for the proper titles, like the crap season in a tv series that you buy anyway to complete the box set.

I physically winced when Eddie Hearn started talking about Bellew wanting Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder etc after the Haye fight. Nobody is actually buying that shite are they? (the hype, not the PPV...)

thechump wrote:

GPTM1403 wrote:

Muttley wrote:
No way Haye ducks this fight he is too much of a sure thing. Haye only takes fights he is guaranteed to win.

to be fair to Haye, I think he is fighting who he can get to face him and for the money he can pay them, everyone knows he can hit, everyone knows the titles are all over the place, the "top" (ha) heavyweights are hovering around title shots, they're not going to risk those against Haye (just like he's less likely to risk it against them), the next level want silly money to get knocked out by him, leaving the guys he is fighting. Hopefully one thing this means is he has the sense to keep fighting rather than sit on his arse waiting for a title shot, cos the likes of Joshua are definitely going to let him sit inactive until he either retires or is an easier prospect.

Bellew has got more bottle than joshua,joshua doesnt want ant part of haye cause he knows if haye lands on his chin joshua is going to sleep so in my eyes hats off to bellew for takin the most dangerous fight of his career and the most dangerous fighter in the heavyweight division today

aint about bottle mate, its about getting the payday that secures your future

littlepug wrote:

thechump wrote:

GPTM1403 wrote:
to be fair to Haye, I think he is fighting who he can get to face him and for the money he can pay them, everyone knows he can hit, everyone knows the titles are all over the place, the "top" (ha) heavyweights are hovering around title shots, they're not going to risk those against Haye (just like he's less likely to risk it against them), the next level want silly money to get knocked out by him, leaving the guys he is fighting. Hopefully one thing this means is he has the sense to keep fighting rather than sit on his arse waiting for a title shot, cos the likes of Joshua are definitely going to let him sit inactive until he either retires or is an easier prospect.

Bellew has got more bottle than joshua,joshua doesnt want ant part of haye cause he knows if haye lands on his chin joshua is going to sleep so in my eyes hats off to bellew for takin the most dangerous fight of his career and the most dangerous fighter in the heavyweight division today

aint about bottle mate, its about getting the payday that secures your future

And haye vs joshua would of secured joshua's future but he bottles it and said he wasnt ready even though he is IBF world champ

thechump wrote:

littlepug wrote:

thechump wrote: Bellew has got more bottle than joshua,joshua doesnt want ant part of haye cause he knows if haye lands on his chin joshua is going to sleep so in my eyes hats off to bellew for takin the most dangerous fight of his career and the most dangerous fighter in the heavyweight division today

aint about bottle mate, its about getting the payday that secures your future

And haye vs joshua would of secured joshua's future but he bottles it and said he wasnt ready even though he is IBF world champ

Joshua is in a different situation, besides his future probably is already secure so can cherry pick who he likes

littlepug wrote:

thechump wrote:

littlepug wrote: aint about bottle mate, its about getting the payday that secures your future

And haye vs joshua would of secured joshua's future but he bottles it and said he wasnt ready even though he is IBF world champ

Joshua is in a different situation, besides his future probably is already secure so can cherry pick who he likes

If i was the heavyweight champ id wanna take on all comers especially anyone from my own country. Haye is dangerous and AJ knows this thats why he is staying away imho

mimmy123 wrote: Bellew has fought world class opposition of late

No he hasn't.

GooalaShooola wrote:I physically winced when Eddie Hearn started talking about Bellew wanting Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder etc after the Haye fight. Nobody is actually buying that shite are they? (the hype, not the PPV...)

Good grief, the man has no shame - hahaha - I mean, I guess in theory, but he's never going to get that far.

thechump wrote:

littlepug wrote:

thechump wrote: And haye vs joshua would of secured joshua's future but he bottles it and said he wasnt ready even though he is IBF world champ

Joshua is in a different situation, besides his future probably is already secure so can cherry pick who he likes

If i was the heavyweight champ id wanna take on all comers especially anyone from my own country. Haye is dangerous and AJ knows this thats why he is staying away imho

This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

Haye blasts out bellew within 3 rounds.

Congratulations to Bellew for getting the Haye fight. His other options were Usyk,Lebedev or Briedis. He loses all 3 for a lot less money.
This fight was a million miles away 12 months ago. He's done fantastically well to talk and fight his way to a payday.

Also congratulations to Haye. He came back for a big payday and instead of heavy handed Joshua or awkward Fury he gets Bellew. I wouldn't be surprised if Haye shat gold and grew money trees in his back garden. He has a knack for making good fights, huge and profitable.

Both have played the social media/lets have some beef system more than once and profited.

I will buy it because it's a spectacle and guarantees a knockout that will be on highlight reels for years to come.

PredatorHayds wrote:Haye blasts out bellew within 3 rounds.

Congratulations to Bellew for getting the Haye fight. His other options were Usyk,Lebedev or Briedis. He loses all 3 for a lot less money.
This fight was a million miles away 12 months ago. He's done fantastically well to talk and fight his way to a payday.

Also congratulations to Haye. He came back for a big payday and instead of heavy handed Joshua or awkward Fury he gets Bellew. I wouldn't be surprised if Haye shat gold and grew money trees in his back garden. He has a knack for making good fights, huge and profitable.

Both have played the social media/lets have some beef system more than once and profited.

I will buy it because it's a spectacle and guarantees a knockout that will be on highlight reels for years to come.

Bellew has hit the jackpot - though he will get his arse kicked for it, I'm sure he can just call it a day as soon as he gets hit and hurt.

I won't spend a penny on this dross however.

Bellew has talked his way into a fortune. Good on him. He could have just been a good, not particularly well off boxer.

Killer Blow wrote:

thechump wrote:

littlepug wrote: Joshua is in a different situation, besides his future probably is already secure so can cherry pick who he likes

If i was the heavyweight champ id wanna take on all comers especially anyone from my own country. Haye is dangerous and AJ knows this thats why he is staying away imho

This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

What title shot was that???

Killer Blow wrote:

thechump wrote:

littlepug wrote: Joshua is in a different situation, besides his future probably is already secure so can cherry pick who he likes

If i was the heavyweight champ id wanna take on all comers especially anyone from my own country. Haye is dangerous and AJ knows this thats why he is staying away imho

This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

Are you talking about him being no.1 contenser to the wba title once briggs fights browne or whoever takes brownes place after the failed drug test? Haye could of waited

thechump wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:

thechump wrote: If i was the heavyweight champ id wanna take on all comers especially anyone from my own country. Haye is dangerous and AJ knows this thats why he is staying away imho

This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

Are you talking about him being no.1 contenser to the wba title once briggs fights browne or whoever takes brownes place after the failed drug test? Haye could of waited

Parker/Ruiz winner.

Killer Blow wrote:

thechump wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:
This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

Are you talking about him being no.1 contenser to the wba title once briggs fights browne or whoever takes brownes place after the failed drug test? Haye could of waited

Parker/Ruiz winner.

Are u serious? Do you even have the foggiest idea what you are talking about? Have u been hit in the face with a killer blow or something?

Killer Blow wrote:

thechump wrote:

Killer Blow wrote:
This is rich considering Haye himeslf has just turned down a title shot.

Are you talking about him being no.1 contenser to the wba title once briggs fights browne or whoever takes brownes place after the failed drug test? Haye could of waited

Parker/Ruiz winner.

Haye still has the title shot,he is wba no.1 contender not wbo,which is the title parker and ruiz are contesting for,haye is going for wba regular title