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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I think if you put a boxer like Bradley Skeete on the box with a casual and a serious fan in the room, their attitude to him would be totally different.

The casual would be frustrated about his lack of knockout power. They'd probably conclude that he was boring. And in fact, many on here have over the years.

The serious fan; whilst acknowledging his lack of concussive knockout power as being a hindrance, would maybe satisfy themselves with his slick foot movement, his jab and his general ability to counter punch.

I love watching Bradley

Taansend wrote:

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I think if you put a boxer like Bradley Skeete on the box with a casual and a serious fan in the room, their attitude to him would be totally different.

The casual would be frustrated about his lack of knockout power. They'd probably conclude that he was boring. And in fact, many on here have over the years.

The serious fan; whilst acknowledging his lack of concussive knockout power as being a hindrance, would maybe satisfy themselves with his slick foot movement, his jab and his general ability to counter punch.

I love watching Bradley

I really enjoyed the Eggington fight.

A friend who went to the Excel said the Gavin fight was turd sos didn't bother watching.

Loftgroov wrote:Casuals watch Sky and Sky PPV

Hardcores only watch allegedly and hate anyone who buys a Sky PPV, as they obviously know nothing about boxing and just want to bum Fast Eddie

The real hardcore fan only "goes fishing" for BN, despite praising the fights it shows.

Taansend wrote:Often on here I've been called a "casual" by a "serious boxing fan" because I'm not irate about a boxing match up.

So how do you get into the exclusive "Serious Boxing Fan" Club?

I've been watching boxing for over 40 years, boxed (badly) myself at the Samuel Montague in Kidbrooke, been to dozens of amateur contests and travelled all over the UK following fighters like Duke McKenzie on bouts in leisure centres, as well as going to plenty of Benn & Eubank bouts (I think I first saw Benn on the undercard of a Terry Marsh bill). I even went to plenty of Kirkland Laing bouts including a crazy one in Brixton with an MC saying things like "Boo-ya" when a punch landed

I went to New York to visit Madison Square Garden, Boston so I could walk the same streets as John L Sullivan (& scour local 2nd hand book shops for old boxing volumes), went to Lennox Lewis's 1st pro bout in 1989 & was in L.A. for his last one in 2003. I even went to Galveston, Texas to see if there was a statue or memorial to the great Jack Johnson. There wasn't. There's a street named after him in a ghetto part of town though. I didn't dwell.

So despite all this how do I get into this clique full of "serious boxing fans". Do I need to be more cynical?

My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

But like it or lump it The so called casuals , fill the arenas , buy the ppv 's and really are the ones who keep boxing alive ,, so the serious'es can go fornicate off ,, CASUAL and Proud ,,

coneye wrote:But like it or lump it The so called casuals , fill the arenas , buy the ppv 's and really are the ones who keep boxing alive ,, so the serious'es can go eff off ,, CASUAL and Proud ,,

I feel such a nerd as a 'serious boxing fan'.... I'm going to join the 'casuals' now... Anthony Joshua Ko 2 Muhammad Ali

boxingknockout wrote:

coneye wrote:But like it or lump it The so called casuals , fill the arenas , buy the ppv 's and really are the ones who keep boxing alive ,, so the serious'es can go eff off ,, CASUAL and Proud ,,

I feel such a nerd as a 'serious boxing fan'.... I'm going to join the 'casuals' now... Anthony Joshua Ko 2 Muhammad Ali

Come on mate your not casual enough, only a 2nd round KO

I would say I'm a casual football fan and a hardcore boxing fan.

The difference being I watch a fair bit of football and also know a fair bit of knowledge, I can have a conversation with other football fans but when pushed on conversations regarding tactics, managers and players histories outside the UK etc I don't have a clue what I'm talking about (once I start talking to my mates with season tickets etc they just start giving me funny looks when I say certain things). Now that's fine with me I am happy to admit where my football knowledge ends, however; plenty of casuals don't seem to know where their knowledge ends and just come across as ill informed. This is the issue with the boxing casuals their opinions are based on a lack of knowledge and what ever Eddie Hearn tells them, they then chat untold amounts of shit...... but they do keep the sport going.

smiling assassin wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

coneye wrote:But like it or lump it The so called casuals , fill the arenas , buy the ppv 's and really are the ones who keep boxing alive ,, so the serious'es can go eff off ,, CASUAL and Proud ,,

I feel such a nerd as a 'serious boxing fan'.... I'm going to join the 'casuals' now... Anthony Joshua Ko 2 Muhammad Ali

Come on mate your not casual enough, only a 2nd round KO

Sorry 1st round. After all Joshua's power is so amazing he's never gone the distance

boxingknockout wrote:

smiling assassin wrote:

boxingknockout wrote: I feel such a nerd as a 'serious boxing fan'.... I'm going to join the 'casuals' now... Anthony Joshua Ko 2 Muhammad Ali

Come on mate your not casual enough, only a 2nd round KO

Sorry 1st round. After all Joshua's power is so amazing he's never gone the distance

More than welcome to the club ,Boxing ,,, 5 quid will get you a badge ,, 10 quid will give you a badge , a lifetime subscriptiion , with a signed a10 peice of paper stating your a member of the CASUAL and PROUD CLUB ,

tHIS WAS AN ELITIST CLUB , BUT WERE NOW PREPARED TO GO PUBLIC , enrollments and subscriptions will start soon its great value ,, , were hoping to get our God Eddie Hearn on board soon ,, and once we do , watch us fly we will have unlimited access to IFL with King Kugan , doing weekly interviews , with a subscribed member , picked out of the barrel each week .
Its gonna be FOOKING AWSOME ,, long live the casuals ,, and just a bit of gossip for ya ,, Its long been suspected , that AJ has a 9 inch slong , which is why so many casual women want to watch him ... well i'm here to tell ya that it does in fact measure closer to 9 and half ,, so that with the fact that he's gonna do Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewiss on the same night , in March next year , , subscriptions are expected to go through the roof get in soon , CASUALS and Proud

coneye wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

smiling assassin wrote: Come on mate your not casual enough, only a 2nd round KO

Sorry 1st round. After all Joshua's power is so amazing he's never gone the distance

More than welcome to the club ,Boxing ,,, 5 quid will get you a badge ,, 10 quid will give you a badge , a lifetime subscriptiion , with a signed a10 peice of paper stating your a member of the CASUAL and PROUD CLUB ,

tHIS WAS AN ELITIST CLUB , BUT WERE NOW PREPARED TO GO PUBLIC , enrollments and subscriptions will start soon its great value ,, , were hoping to get our God Eddie Hearn on board soon ,, and once we do , watch us fly we will have unlimited access to IFL with King Kugan , doing weekly interviews , with a subscribed member , picked out of the barrel each week .
Its gonna be FOOKING AWSOME ,, long live the casuals ,, and just a bit of gossip for ya ,, Its long been suspected , that AJ has a 9 inch slong , which is why so many casual women want to watch him ... well i'm here to tell ya that it does in fact measure closer to 9 and half ,, so that with the fact that he's gonna do Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewiss on the same night , in March next year , , subscriptions are expected to go through the roof get in soon , CASUALS and Proud

Great info mate..... but would Amir Khan's speed be too much for Joshua? I think so...

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:Often on here I've been called a "casual" by a "serious boxing fan" because I'm not irate about a boxing match up.

So how do you get into the exclusive "Serious Boxing Fan" Club?

I've been watching boxing for over 40 years, boxed (badly) myself at the Samuel Montague in Kidbrooke, been to dozens of amateur contests and travelled all over the UK following fighters like Duke McKenzie on bouts in leisure centres, as well as going to plenty of Benn & Eubank bouts (I think I first saw Benn on the undercard of a Terry Marsh bill). I even went to plenty of Kirkland Laing bouts including a crazy one in Brixton with an MC saying things like "Boo-ya" when a punch landed

I went to New York to visit Madison Square Garden, Boston so I could walk the same streets as John L Sullivan (& scour local 2nd hand book shops for old boxing volumes), went to Lennox Lewis's 1st pro bout in 1989 & was in L.A. for his last one in 2003. I even went to Galveston, Texas to see if there was a statue or memorial to the great Jack Johnson. There wasn't. There's a street named after him in a ghetto part of town though. I didn't dwell.

So despite all this how do I get into this clique full of "serious boxing fans". Do I need to be more cynical?

My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

Great post.

Where is Stanley Ketchel's grave? I'd love to visit. Been a 'fan' over his since my childhood and I reread "The Killings of Stanley Ketchel" by James Carlos Blake every couple of years.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:Often on here I've been called a "casual" by a "serious boxing fan" because I'm not irate about a boxing match up.

So how do you get into the exclusive "Serious Boxing Fan" Club?

I've been watching boxing for over 40 years, boxed (badly) myself at the Samuel Montague in Kidbrooke, been to dozens of amateur contests and travelled all over the UK following fighters like Duke McKenzie on bouts in leisure centres, as well as going to plenty of Benn & Eubank bouts (I think I first saw Benn on the undercard of a Terry Marsh bill). I even went to plenty of Kirkland Laing bouts including a crazy one in Brixton with an MC saying things like "Boo-ya" when a punch landed

I went to New York to visit Madison Square Garden, Boston so I could walk the same streets as John L Sullivan (& scour local 2nd hand book shops for old boxing volumes), went to Lennox Lewis's 1st pro bout in 1989 & was in L.A. for his last one in 2003. I even went to Galveston, Texas to see if there was a statue or memorial to the great Jack Johnson. There wasn't. There's a street named after him in a ghetto part of town though. I didn't dwell.

So despite all this how do I get into this clique full of "serious boxing fans". Do I need to be more cynical?

My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

That was savage

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:Often on here I've been called a "casual" by a "serious boxing fan" because I'm not irate about a boxing match up.

So how do you get into the exclusive "Serious Boxing Fan" Club?

I've been watching boxing for over 40 years, boxed (badly) myself at the Samuel Montague in Kidbrooke, been to dozens of amateur contests and travelled all over the UK following fighters like Duke McKenzie on bouts in leisure centres, as well as going to plenty of Benn & Eubank bouts (I think I first saw Benn on the undercard of a Terry Marsh bill). I even went to plenty of Kirkland Laing bouts including a crazy one in Brixton with an MC saying things like "Boo-ya" when a punch landed

I went to New York to visit Madison Square Garden, Boston so I could walk the same streets as John L Sullivan (& scour local 2nd hand book shops for old boxing volumes), went to Lennox Lewis's 1st pro bout in 1989 & was in L.A. for his last one in 2003. I even went to Galveston, Texas to see if there was a statue or memorial to the great Jack Johnson. There wasn't. There's a street named after him in a ghetto part of town though. I didn't dwell.

So despite all this how do I get into this clique full of "serious boxing fans". Do I need to be more cynical?

My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

Great post.

Where is Stanley Ketchel's grave? I'd love to visit. Been a 'fan' over his since my childhood and I reread "The Killings of Stanley Ketchel" by James Carlos Blake every couple of years.

I like the book, but don't love it. I could write a book about him myself, I know that much about him. He used to carry a bible everywhere he went, but couldn't read.

His grave's in Michigan. Grand Rapids is the name of the place. I was half cut when I got there and poured a bottle of whisky on his grave - I'm sad like that.

lefty wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:Often on here I've been called a "casual" by a "serious boxing fan" because I'm not irate about a boxing match up.

So how do you get into the exclusive "Serious Boxing Fan" Club?

I've been watching boxing for over 40 years, boxed (badly) myself at the Samuel Montague in Kidbrooke, been to dozens of amateur contests and travelled all over the UK following fighters like Duke McKenzie on bouts in leisure centres, as well as going to plenty of Benn & Eubank bouts (I think I first saw Benn on the undercard of a Terry Marsh bill). I even went to plenty of Kirkland Laing bouts including a crazy one in Brixton with an MC saying things like "Boo-ya" when a punch landed

I went to New York to visit Madison Square Garden, Boston so I could walk the same streets as John L Sullivan (& scour local 2nd hand book shops for old boxing volumes), went to Lennox Lewis's 1st pro bout in 1989 & was in L.A. for his last one in 2003. I even went to Galveston, Texas to see if there was a statue or memorial to the great Jack Johnson. There wasn't. There's a street named after him in a ghetto part of town though. I didn't dwell.

So despite all this how do I get into this clique full of "serious boxing fans". Do I need to be more cynical?

My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

That was savage

It's how I feel mate. You know what some of these characters are like. You're awesome though.

What a lot of these boxing snobs don't realise is: being a 'hardcore' boxing fan doesn't mean you're anything special in this world.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
My boxing life is similar to yours. Been to MSG, been to the The Palace at Auburn Hills, The Blue Horizon in Phillie. Been to tons of ABAs. In this country, been to big shows, small shows and plenty inbetween. Been to loads of gyms, met tons of boxers, met trainers and promoters. Sparred more than 100 rounds, collected all sorts of books, magazines, interviewed boxers, covered fights, attended weigh ins etc etc.

I hate the term 'casual', when you've got people on here, Horse for example, who've never been to a show and streams Boxn4tion, SKY and PPV.

Loads of people on here call boxers 'bums' or 'useless', but don't have the guts to step in the ring themselves.

They criticize David Haye because he's taking the Bellew fight 'just for the money' - it's called prizefighting for a reason. Every fight could be a boxers last, so money and savvy management should be the two most important things for a boxer.

Some of the bellends on here think that I'm a 'fanboy' or a 'nuthugger' because I dare to defend a boxer, who I'm not even a fan off in the first place.

But enough, I love your Jack Johnson story. I visited Stanley Ketchel's grave mate. Some of these pudenda have never even left their mam's house.

If actually going to shows and paying a few quid every month to watch a 24 hour boxing channel makes me a 'casual', then I'm proud to be called one.

Great post.

Where is Stanley Ketchel's grave? I'd love to visit. Been a 'fan' over his since my childhood and I reread "The Killings of Stanley Ketchel" by James Carlos Blake every couple of years.

I like the book, but don't love it. I could write a book about him myself, I know that much about him. He used to carry a bible everywhere he went, but couldn't read.

His grave's in Michigan. Grand Rapids is the name of the place. I was half cut when I got there and poured a bottle of whisky on his grave - I'm sad like that.

Maybe I'll get up there next summer. I have a friend who lives in Holland which is just down the road. I plan on doing a half marathon in Chicago so can kill two birds etc....

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:
Great post.

Where is Stanley Ketchel's grave? I'd love to visit. Been a 'fan' over his since my childhood and I reread "The Killings of Stanley Ketchel" by James Carlos Blake every couple of years.

I like the book, but don't love it. I could write a book about him myself, I know that much about him. He used to carry a bible everywhere he went, but couldn't read.

His grave's in Michigan. Grand Rapids is the name of the place. I was half cut when I got there and poured a bottle of whisky on his grave - I'm sad like that.

Maybe I'll get up there next summer. I have a friend who lives in Holland which is just down the road. I plan on doing a half marathon in Chicago so can kill two birds etc....

Half marathon? Are you mad? Bedroom Olympics is my only exercise. A former BoxRec poster yid14 (or craig yid14) ran 52 marathons in 52 weeks. So the bar is set pretty high.

Finn wrote:I would say I'm a casual football fan and a hardcore boxing fan.

The difference being I watch a fair bit of football and also know a fair bit of knowledge, I can have a conversation with other football fans but when pushed on conversations regarding tactics, managers and players histories outside the UK etc I don't have a clue what I'm talking about (once I start talking to my mates with season tickets etc they just start giving me funny looks when I say certain things). Now that's fine with me I am happy to admit where my football knowledge ends, however; plenty of casuals don't seem to know where their knowledge ends and just come across as ill informed. This is the issue with the boxing casuals their opinions are based on a lack of knowledge and what ever Eddie Hearn tells them, they then chat untold amounts of poo...... but they do keep the sport going.

At least you admit to being a casual football fan. I personally reckon 99% of football fans are actually casual (and I include myself in that figure), but they would either never admit to it or just wouldn't even realise. Most of the blokes I know who like football don't actually know anything outside of the Premier League or their own specific club, and a lot of them have never been to more than a handful of live games.

I grew up with a dad & brother who are proper hardcore fans (i.e. football anoraks) - they can both pretty much name every player in every squad of all the professional British league teams. In fact, they can probably also name all of the managers and all of the referees! My dad even turned down an amazing career opportunity when I was a kid because he didn't want to relocate and have to start missing games. Even though I'm a long-standing season ticket holder at my club and have attended literally hundreds of games, to them I'm just a casual

I think casual fans like to see the big fights. They have an idea of who the biggest stars are and they're prepared to buy PPV to see them. Their knowledge can let them down when it comes to expressing an opinion, but that's not to say their opinion isn't valid. They may have a limited barometer when it comes to judging and discussing how good a fight was or how good a fighter is. I've often seen guys shot down on Social Media for proclaiming they've just watched "Fight of the Year" when in truth it's been average and hyped up by the commentary team. The thing is to them it might actually be fight of the year as they've only seen a handful of events over the past 12 months. Nothing against casual fans, they are tomorrows hard core fans in waiting.

A serious fan is more educated in the sport. They'll generally know the history of fighters, their boxing stance, defensive style, strengths and weaknesses, who they've faced, their prefered tactics, who trains them, who promotes them etc... A serious fan will watch pretty much anything boxing, will go to shows if possible, will buy boxing magazines and books, will post on forums, will listen to podcasts, follow boxing on social media, might join a gym to train like a boxer, might give boxing a go and are likely to have strong opinions about boxing in general and are not afraid to voice them.

They are yin and yang. Casual fans need serious fans to keep them right and help educate them. Serious fans need casual fans to have someone to talk down to I'm an inbetweener. I'd say I'm casually serious but others haved called me a melt in the past.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
I like the book, but don't love it. I could write a book about him myself, I know that much about him. He used to carry a bible everywhere he went, but couldn't read.

His grave's in Michigan. Grand Rapids is the name of the place. I was half cut when I got there and poured a bottle of whisky on his grave - I'm sad like that.

Maybe I'll get up there next summer. I have a friend who lives in Holland which is just down the road. I plan on doing a half marathon in Chicago so can kill two birds etc....

Half marathon? Are you mad? Bedroom Olympics is my only exercise. A former BoxRec poster yid14 (or craig yid14) ran 52 marathons in 52 weeks. So the bar is set pretty high.

I did my first one last month & didn't train at all for it. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Very Zen.

So now I want to do one with some training. I have 10 weeks til my next one. Me & the Missus also use it as a mini break so we'll be visiting Savannah & Charleston & I'll also be looking for Joe Fraziers family farm in Beaufort.

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:
Maybe I'll get up there next summer. I have a friend who lives in Holland which is just down the road. I plan on doing a half marathon in Chicago so can kill two birds etc....

Half marathon? Are you mad? Bedroom Olympics is my only exercise. A former BoxRec poster yid14 (or craig yid14) ran 52 marathons in 52 weeks. So the bar is set pretty high.

I did my first one last month & didn't train at all for it. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Very Zen.

So now I want to do one with some training. I have 10 weeks til my next one. Me & the Missus also use it as a mini break so we'll be visiting Savannah & Charleston & I'll also be looking for Joe Fraziers family farm in Beaufort.

Sounds like a great trip. I've always wanted to go to Savannah.

I'd say going out of your way/taking time to seek out information about boxing and knowing who the best fighters in each division are, from HW down to Bantam

Noxy wrote:I think the casuals enjoy it and the 'seriouses' find something to complain about

Basically this. If you hardly ever watch boxing and really enjoy it when you do, you're a casual. If you watch as much boxing as you can and then say it's all sh!t, you're hardcore

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Taansend wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Half marathon? Are you mad? Bedroom Olympics is my only exercise. A former BoxRec poster yid14 (or craig yid14) ran 52 marathons in 52 weeks. So the bar is set pretty high.

I did my first one last month & didn't train at all for it. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Very Zen.

So now I want to do one with some training. I have 10 weeks til my next one. Me & the Missus also use it as a mini break so we'll be visiting Savannah & Charleston & I'll also be looking for Joe Fraziers family farm in Beaufort.

Sounds like a great trip. I've always wanted to go to Savannah.

Boxing related side trips when you are on the road somewhere else are always great.

My wife arranged lunch this summer with an old friend of hers just outside Boston when we were there. Didn't pay much attention until we got in the hire car, and she said we were going to Brockton.

Cue: drop wife and kids off for the lunch, and have an awesome time finding the Marciano statue and other nonsense.

Incidentally, to be a true boxing historian, you need to be able to find Sonny Liston's grave without a guidebook.