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Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 12:40
by Oiky
For me Bill takes it on points

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 12:55
by jamesmcdonnell
On last night's showing it would be a close one. Canelo would struggle to get openings.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 13:19
by Coco
Canelo showed against Khan how he struggles with speed and movers.

And he won't take out BJS with one shot.

The Brit needs to be in shape though, one swallow doesn't make a summer!

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 13:41
by smiling assassin
It’s a fight that Saunders should never take (unless it happens in england) as there is no chance he will get a fair go on the scorecards and there is virtually no chance that he can stop Alvarez to leaves the judges scorecards useless. But if we are talking about just inside the ring then I think Saunders would take it on points

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 13:53
by Counter-puncher
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 12:55 On last night's showing it would be a close one. Canelo would struggle to get openings.
Well Alvarez isn't the best at cutting the ring off, which is obviously in BJS's favour, also I wonder about his gas tank actually being able to chase BJS down with all the movement he can show. Nonetheless I couldn't back BJs to win I don't think, Alvarez is a far cry from Lemieux.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 16:13
by Spiker
Well at the end of the day Khan is probably a better mover than BJS so I’m sure Canelo would catch up with Saunders at some point but would obviously need to take him down with a combination of punches. He might have looked like floyd last night but khan thought the same and is arguably quicker than Saunders

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 16:18
by Oiky
I think if Bill is really on form he'll make it very hard for Canelo

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 17:49
by KiwiRider
Oiky wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 16:18 I think if Bill is really on form he'll make it very hard for Canelo
I agree. Canelo isn't known for his workrate, and I think he would need to up it to catch BJS.
I don't feel this fight would happen though. Golden Boy won't match Canelo against a fan unfriendly fighter. Canelos fan base is largely Mexican/Mexiamerican and they love a proper battle, remember the backlash Floyd got from dancing around Canelo? I'm sure Oscar wouldn't want a repeat of that.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 17:53
by Oiky
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 17:49
Oiky wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 16:18 I think if Bill is really on form he'll make it very hard for Canelo
I agree. Canelo isn't known for his workrate, and I think he would need to up it to catch BJS.
I don't feel this fight would happen though. Golden Boy won't match Canelo against a fan unfriendly fighter. Canelos fan base is largely Mexican/Mexiamerican and they love a proper battle, remember the backlash Floyd got from dancing around Canelo? I'm sure Oscar wouldn't want a repeat of that.
I agree there mate, can't see Oscar rushing to make that fight anytime soon either

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 18:30
by lillywhite14
Oiky wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 09:55 Despite the phenomenal performance Jacobs gave against GGG last time out, I think on form Bill beats him
Can’t agree mate unfortunately. The best Bill we’ve seen against the best Jacobs we’ve seen? Jacobs, with plenty to spare too.

People would do well to remember Canelo has faced fighters slicker, quicker and with better timing than BJS. It’s like saying Parker will do well against Tyson because he beat Hughie.

Lemieux really isn’t Canelo or GGG, certainly not Jacobs either. Way below all 3, amongst others

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 18:36
by WildWaylon
If Canelo catches him, its all over, but if he jabs and runs BJS could beat him on points. Mayweather did it but I dont think BJS is anywhere near as good as Mayweather.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 06:35
by Oiky
lillywhite14 wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 18:30
Oiky wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 09:55 Despite the phenomenal performance Jacobs gave against GGG last time out, I think on form Bill beats him
Can’t agree mate unfortunately. The best Bill we’ve seen against the best Jacobs we’ve seen? Jacobs, with plenty to spare too.

People would do well to remember Canelo has faced fighters slicker, quicker and with better timing than BJS. It’s like saying Parker will do well against Tyson because he beat Hughie.

Lemieux really isn’t Canelo or GGG, certainly not Jacobs either. Way below all 3, amongst others
Yeah your right pal the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing, just coz one fighter beat someone it don't mean he'll beat the next man, and canelo is a much harder task than Lemeiux, much better all round,

Just have to wait and see what happens in future :TU:

Wouldlnt rule either man out but if Bill does it right he can take it on pts :bag:

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 06:44
by banjo
He'd give Alvarez and Golovkin a good fight, think people are overrating this slightly though, GGG demolished Lemieux when they fought and he's also been stopped by Rubio.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 09:21
by BitPlayer
WildWaylon wrote: 17 Dec 2017, 18:36 If Canelo catches him, its all over, but if he jabs and runs BJS could beat him on points. Mayweather did it but I dont think BJS is anywhere near as good as Mayweather.
I'm not so sure, Canelo hits hard, but not freakish hard, and Saunders has a decent chin and is great at tieing up when he needs to.

Not sure he'd beat GGG or Canelo, but Saunders has a real chance to pull the upset, and in shape will give them both problems.

He has a better chance against Canelo, GGG is relentless, and Saunders might have better stamina, but I think GGG would likely wear him down. He'd maybe need to build an insurmountable lead, then cling on, much easier said than done against GGG.

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 14:53
by Terminator666
Think Saunders can win but there is no way they would give him the decision unless it was maybe co promoted in the uk- and I can’t see that happening

Re: WHO WINS? Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders

Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 21:02
by Covfefe
I’d have given him no chance before the weekend, but after watching how well BJS performed I think he has a chance. Canelo can be lazy, Saunders could easily make him miss similarly and win some rounds, I don’t think Canelo can stop him either so over twelve rounds I think it’s a much closer fight than I used to think.

I’d actually much prefer to see this than Saunders-Golovkin.